Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221922 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#101659 Oct 19, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>THAT'S the word I was looking for.
"Nachash".
Thank you - RR is, as often, deliberately being deceptive.
Naturally. Deflect, deceive, divert, ignore.
While some Xtians may have heard that their god gave them some vague instruction about honesty, they conveniently can't seem to remember when or where.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101660 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold on there, pardner. You claimed the sun was created before the earth.
Will you back that up with facts or continue to troll or admit that is speculation.
It's one of the three.
no, i never made that claim. i stated as fact that the sun was not formed after the Earth was formed and populated with plants...as your cult's myth states.

again, the infallible god your cult attempted to create falls flat on his proven mythical face...as your inability to counter the proven facts provided you shows.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101661 Oct 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, it means "all powerful". Just being powerful is not good enough.
Just as your god is not all knowing. Or else he is monstrously evil.
the monstrously evil part is quite clear in the places this mythical god tells his followers to kill those that do not believe in him...

or the parts where this mythical god sends his children off to an eternity of his abandonment for not worshiping him correctly or not enough...a real prick of a monstrously evil myth, in fact...

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#101662 Oct 19, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No - now they're all talking jackasses and singing shrubbery.
The singing bush and then summon the invisible swordsman?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101663 Oct 19, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>The singing bush and then summon the invisible swordsman?
infamous...it means MORE than famous....

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101664 Oct 19, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>The singing bush and then summon the invisible swordsman?
This made me think a bit. If you listed a mixture of silly myths, like a singing bush:



Miraculous cures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

And mix them in with Biblical miracles and Biblical cures I wonder how many Christians could separate their nonsense from the other nonsense.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101665 Oct 19, 2013
I should have linked this one:

“ad victoriam”

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#101666 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG I just gave you six definitions for serpent. Why are you being so obtuse?
The Wyrm Ouroboros.

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#101667 Oct 19, 2013
Judaism is not Christianity. I have no idea why you people keep going on about Judaism and pawning it off Christianity...Christianity is based on the teaching of the Christ.
Jesus reprimanded the Jews several times for their mis-guided ways such as stoning,using the church as a money institution etc.
Although, some of the Old Testament morals and traditions are still retained because they parallel the same standards that true Christians try to adhere to, such as the ten commandments.

Wikimedia: Christian views on the Old Covenant

Although Christianity affirms that the Pentateuch is part of Scripture that is inspired of God, Christian tradition, in this case similar to Jewish tradition, denies that all of the Old Covenant still applies directly to Christians, but different arguments are used to reach that conclusion and there are differences of opinion within Christianity as to which parts, if any, still apply. The predominant Christian view is that Jesus mediates a New Covenant relationship between God and his followers, according to the New Testament, which ended or set aside some or all of the Old Covenant.[4] Christianity, almost without exception, teaches that this New Covenant is the instrument through which God offers mercy and atonement to mankind.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101668 Oct 19, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
Judaism is not Christianity. I have no idea why you people keep going on about Judaism and pawning it off Christianity...Christianity is based on the teaching of the Christ.
Jesus reprimanded the Jews several times for their mis-guided ways such as stoning,using the church as a money institution etc.
Although, some of the Old Testament morals and traditions are still retained because they parallel the same standards that true Christians try to adhere to, such as the ten commandments.
Wikimedia: Christian views on the Old Covenant
Although Christianity affirms that the Pentateuch is part of Scripture that is inspired of God, Christian tradition, in this case similar to Jewish tradition, denies that all of the Old Covenant still applies directly to Christians, but different arguments are used to reach that conclusion and there are differences of opinion within Christianity as to which parts, if any, still apply. The predominant Christian view is that Jesus mediates a New Covenant relationship between God and his followers, according to the New Testament, which ended or set aside some or all of the Old Covenant.[4] Christianity, almost without exception, teaches that this New Covenant is the instrument through which God offers mercy and atonement to mankind.
There is mention of a "New Covenant" in the New Testament, but it is never defined. In fact Jesus himself said that all of the laws of the Old Testament were still to apply. Do you want me to quote the verse?

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#101669 Oct 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
There is mention of a "New Covenant" in the New Testament, but it is never defined. In fact Jesus himself said that all of the laws of the Old Testament were still to apply. Do you want me to quote the verse?
Why? You have already stated that you do not believe any of what the bible says.

But yet, you are more than willing to offer up a quote by Jesus as a fact(?)

No. But you can quote me the verse where it says that even Jesus's disciples had a hard time understanding what he was trying to teach them.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#101670 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>infamous...it means MORE than famous....
Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101671 Oct 19, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Why? You have already stated that you do not believe any of what the bible says.
But yet, you are more than willing to offer up a quote by Jesus as a fact(?)
No. But you can quote me the verse where it says that even Jesus's disciples had a hard time understanding what he was trying to teach them.
I didn't say that I don't believe anything that the Bible says. It is obvious to all that there are countless errors in it. Still that does not mean it is all wrong. And if a Christian makes a foolish claim there is no reason that the Bible cannot be used against him.

And you need to read what I wrote again. I never mentioned the disciples. I said that Jesus said that ALL of the laws of the Old Testament still apply.

Don't you ever read your own Bible?

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#101672 Oct 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
This made me think a bit. If you listed a mixture of silly myths, like a singing bush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =7yNV-GXoeCMXX
Miraculous cures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And mix them in with Biblical miracles and Biblical cures I wonder how many Christians could separate their nonsense from the other nonsense.
If only the invisible swordsman had known about the zero gravity position and been wearing a magnetic bracelet, he may have lived.

People are still looking for miracles even today. I don't know that those that are desperate or easily taken in would be able to tease out the nonsense. You would probably have the fundamentalists out running around the country looking for singing bushes. That would be funny though.

Do you remember the Jimmy Swaggart prostitution scandal? At some point in that story, Swaggart apparently claimed he was chased around his house by demons. I know people that believe that deeply. They can't separate reality from fantasy when it comes to their beliefs.

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#101673 Oct 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say that I don't believe anything that the Bible says. It is obvious to all that there are countless errors in it. Still that does not mean it is all wrong. And if a Christian makes a foolish claim there is no reason that the Bible cannot be used against him.
And you need to read what I wrote again. I never mentioned the disciples. I said that Jesus said that ALL of the laws of the Old Testament still apply.
Don't you ever read your own Bible?
So your saying you believe some of the bible, but not all of it?

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101674 Oct 19, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>If only the invisible swordsman had known about the zero gravity position and been wearing a magnetic bracelet, he may have lived.
People are still looking for miracles even today. I don't know that those that are desperate or easily taken in would be able to tease out the nonsense. You would probably have the fundamentalists out running around the country looking for singing bushes. That would be funny though.
Do you remember the Jimmy Swaggart prostitution scandal? At some point in that story, Swaggart apparently claimed he was chased around his house by demons. I know people that believe that deeply. They can't separate reality from fantasy when it comes to their beliefs.
Well at least Ted Haggard is completely heterosexual now:



I just noted that the singer of this song has the same last name as Bob Dylan had at first.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101675 Oct 19, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
So your saying you believe some of the bible, but not all of it?
Sure, I am not a fanatic.

I don't believe in any of the nonsense of the Bible.

For example we all know that there is a city called Tyre. Which never was destroyed as predicted by Ezekiel. It was attacked by Nebuchadnezzar, but he never defeated it. Nor did he even come close to defeating Egypt.

And even if I did not believe one word of it the Bible could still be used as a weapon against Christians when they get their own holy book wrong.

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#101676 Oct 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, I am not a fanatic.
I don't believe in any of the nonsense of the Bible.
For example we all know that there is a city called Tyre. Which never was destroyed as predicted by Ezekiel. It was attacked by Nebuchadnezzar, but he never defeated it. Nor did he even come close to defeating Egypt.
And even if I did not believe one word of it the Bible could still be used as a weapon against Christians when they get their own holy book wrong.
Actually I'm not trying to be contrary as it may seem...only trying to establish what parts of the bible you consider as true and the ones you consider not true for conversation sake.

Am I to take it that you believe all quotes by Jesus to be true since that was your point of reference?

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101677 Oct 19, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I'm not trying to be contrary as it may seem...only trying to establish what parts of the bible you consider as true and the ones you consider not true for conversation sake.
Am I to take it that you believe all quotes by Jesus to be true since that was your point of reference?
Now you are being a fool.

How many times do I have to tell you that the Bible can be used against a Christian when he does not understand his own religion.

I have strong doubts about the veracity of the quotes of Jesus. Some of them may be true, some of them may be false. It does not matter.

Are you completely devoid of the ability to think logically?

“Good day to you!”

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Since: Oct 08

Earth

#101678 Oct 19, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm aware of that recent snowfall in 2011. Snowfall in the Atacama is not unheard of and usually occurs in January or February. The fact that this happens and is *KNOWN* to happen in no way discounts Dr. Dunai's research that some dry riverbeds he has studied have had no water running through them in 100,000+ years. Even if those same riverbed were flood to the top in 2011, it does not refute his research done six years earlier.
In mountainous areas which this desert sits, streams, rivers, lakes and ponds are fed by three sources of water. Underground springs, snow melt and glacial melt.
This scientist claims certain streams and river beds haven't had water flowing in them for a hundred thousand years and more.
What this scientist failed to mention, is much of Peru and this desert area and the higher elevated areas surrounding it have suffered a few glacial ages in the last 100,000 years.
A glacial age leaves glaciers. The glaciers and heavy snowfall on nearby higher elevated areas would have fed those rivers, streams, lakes and ponds for months to maybe years till the heavy snow melt was gone and the glaciers disappeared.
He doesn't address those facts. The ENTIRE desert was covered in deep thick snow and ALL rivers and stream beds flowed as this snow melted yet that fact matters not to him. To him CERTAIN river and stream beds have some invisible force field that has kept them dry as he states it for over 100,000 years while the rest of the desert was subjected to snow and glacier melt runoff.
I looked for his explanation of this. He gave none. To him when glaciers and deep snow on other elevated areas were slowly melting during the warming up period of the end of that glacial age, he insinuates water run off purposefully avoided certain rivers and streams on this desert for 100,000 years. Makes sense to those wanting to believe that I suppose.

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