Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 174033 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#101494 Oct 18, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Come on, Igor... you can't take it literally. You need to "interpret" it in a way that doesn't sound batshit crazy!
Yeah, because obviously the invisible magic Jewish wizard used ventriloquism on that serpent, bush and donkey, but Noah really did squeeze all those animals onto the boat when he was 800 years old!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#101495 Oct 18, 2013
endtimes wrote:
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SEPT 2014 :---SIGNS of Tribulation "start"
http://youtu.be/xO_Sk9CzFkY
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Looks more like signs of dementia.(shrug)

“It is often that a ”

Level 5

Since: Mar 13

person's mouth broke his nose.

#101496 Oct 18, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to be quite a but of disagreement over this and I have strong reservations. For example from:
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/oct/1...
"The site was a busy watering hole that human ancestors shared with giant extinct cheetahs, sabre-toothed cats and other beasts. The remains of the individuals were found in collapsed dens where carnivores had apparently dragged the carcasses to eat."
If it was a "busy watering hole" would it not be a possibility that any number of different species of early human ancestors frequented the site?
"They are thought to have died within a few hundred years of one another."
Given that the fossils were dated to 1.8m years ago and given the accuracy of dating methods, I find to hard to accept that they could claim the individuals died within a few hundred years of each other. I seriously doubt this.
I'll await further research.
Yeah it would suck to have to re-write all that they have said is the way it was. lol
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Since: Jun 13

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#101497 Oct 18, 2013
Why didn't minnows ever evolve to not be lunch for all other fish?

Did they never mutate?

Minnows around for billions of years and still the same, just minnows.

Why? What is wrong here?
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Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#101498 Oct 18, 2013
Why didn't plants ever evolve to use all light waves to produce food?

This mutation never happened in billions of years?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101499 Oct 18, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Why didn't minnows ever evolve to not be lunch for all other fish?
Did they never mutate?
Minnows around for billions of years and still the same, just minnows.
Why? What is wrong here?
Nothing. If minnows can still survive that long, and in actuality it has been much shorter for any species of minnows, then they have successfully filled their niche.

Too bad that you have no clue what the theory of evolution is about. You have no chance of debunking the theory if you don't understand it.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101500 Oct 18, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Why didn't plants ever evolve to use all light waves to produce food?
This mutation never happened in billions of years?
Because it is a physical impossibility.

It seems that you, like Urb, need some to learn what the Laws of Thermodynamics have to say about this.

Now you have shown yourself not only to be clueless about evolution, but about physics as well.

“I can never convince the ”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

stupid that they are stupid.

#101501 Oct 18, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Why didn't minnows ever evolve to not be lunch for all other fish?
Did they never mutate?
Minnows around for billions of years and still the same, just minnows.
Why? What is wrong here?
What is wrong is that you don't have a very broad knowledge of animal diversity, mutations or evolution.

Colorado pikeminnow (Ptychocheilus lucius). This little minnow grows up to 6 feet long.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#101502 Oct 18, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Why didn't plants ever evolve to use all light waves to produce food?

This mutation never happened in billions of years?
Both plants and minnows are ENORMOUSLY successful in reproduction, and maintaining species viability.

The very fact that plants and minnows HAVE been here for billions of years attests to that!

“I can never convince the ”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

stupid that they are stupid.

#101503 Oct 18, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Why didn't plants ever evolve to use all light waves to produce food?
This mutation never happened in billions of years?
What light waves do plants use in photosynthesis? Are you referring to wavelengths? Tell us what you know.

Why do you seem to think that just because something might be possible (and I don't believe that your example is) that it is compelled to happen. Evolution doesn't work that way. You might as well ask a stupid question like "Why don't deer have bear-proof armor?".

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101504 Oct 18, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Both plants and minnows are ENORMOUSLY successful in reproduction, and maintaining species viability.
The very fact that plants and minnows HAVE been here for billions of years attests to that!
Hundreds of millions, not billions, but otherwise correct.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101505 Oct 18, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
Why didn't minnows ever evolve to not be lunch for all other fish?
Did they never mutate?
Minnows around for billions of years and still the same, just minnows.
Why? What is wrong here?
why haven't humans evolve to not be lunch for other mammals?

did they never mutate?

why wouldn't your god have made it so humans are not eaten by other animals?

“Input”

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Since: Dec 10

Input

#101506 Oct 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why haven't humans evolve to not be lunch for other mammals?
did they never mutate?
why wouldn't your god have made it so humans are not eaten by other animals?
My question would be why would a god make a bio-system that forced animals to prey on each other , killing and eating them. While giving the ultimate apex predator a conscious that makes them feel guilty for doing so.
But having a carnal lust for eating the flesh of other creatures, it being a necessary function to survive. It does not fit the premise of being created by a loving god, in fact if there is one ...
It's a cruel and twisted monster for forcing the biosphere and it's inhabitants to a never ending chain of kill or be killed.

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Since: Dec 08

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#101507 Oct 18, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
It's logic that say's it is more likely that something that was never alive, may become living, more so than something that is dead will become living.
Consider these things ... What do animals do in reproduction?
They convert nonliving matter into a living entity.
Once something is truly dead , it starts decomposing and there is
no recovery from this condition. Take frostbite for instance, the cells that have died start decomposing, the only solution to stop this condition from encompassing the entire organism. Is to remove the dead parts or die.
The fact we cant make a pile of ingredients become alive artificially, doesn't mean it is impossible. Just beyond our ability at the moment.
But the fact something is dead, means it's coming back to life is impossible. If some appears to have died and comes back to life, it means it was never truly dead, but was in appearance alone
mistakenly believed to be so.
It's just that simple.
Logic! you are not in the same country with logic! Both are dead! dumbass,it would be no greater feat for a dead animal to come back to life than a bunch of disorganized puddles to spring to life! You are clothed in such a suit of denial you will grasp at anything no matter how unscientific , illogical , and unproven to prop up your religious beliefs. Then in a final desperate spasm of idiocy you bring up the fact of reproduction to stupidly support a fools argument. Hey Idiot! that argument supports CREATION! life has been shown only to reproduce through existing life! That's NEVER been disproven!, yet you try to use that as evidence for abiogenesis! What a brainwashed fool

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Since: Dec 08

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#101508 Oct 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Try writing your questions in English. What you claim has nothing to do with evolution. Or even abiogenesis. All you have done is to show how ignorant you are about the science that you are disputing.
And blowfart all you have is hit and run. Your methods are as malodorous as your user name.
Answer the question dumbass, I haven't claimed anything .. its your own words I'm using! How can something that was alive then dead not be able to come back to life, yet something that was never alive can? These are your words! You are not ignorant ,no,...you are just taking comically stupid positions to defend your beliefs. Then when your stupidity is exposed you accuse others of ignorance! Pitiful

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Since: Dec 08

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#101509 Oct 18, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
bohart as a believer in God let me tell you something. I wonder why all the time since he is so mighty that bad things happen to good people. I lost one brother when I was 14, my Dad when I was 18, my mother when I was 45 and my other brother when I was 46. Did I do something wrong for them to be taken for I damn sure know they didn't do anything wrong. I have broke many commandments do to situations I have been put in. So why not let them all live and take me is my question? I have faith but many times it is hard to carry that faith when many things weigh you down.
I couldn't begin to answer, it's a question that thinking people have wondered about for ages. I suppose to have the answer would be to know the mind of God, and in this life man isn't capable of it.Perhaps the book of Job is as close as we'll get here on earth to an answer. Good luck.

“Input”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Input

#101510 Oct 18, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Logic! you are not in the same country with logic! Both are dead! dumbass,it would be no greater feat for a dead animal to come back to life than a bunch of disorganized puddles to spring to life! You are clothed in such a suit of denial you will grasp at anything no matter how unscientific , illogical , and unproven to prop up your religious beliefs. Then in a final desperate spasm of idiocy you bring up the fact of reproduction to stupidly support a fools argument. Hey Idiot! that argument supports CREATION! life has been shown only to reproduce through existing life! That's NEVER been disproven!, yet you try to use that as evidence for abiogenesis! What a brainwashed fool
Actually all the evidence of my assertion is real. There is zero chance of dead tissue coming back to life after tissue degeneration has taken place. But this window can be as little as 45 minutes or extended in very cool conditions. It has been found clinically dead can be revived , but the brain degenerates very quickly , if the victim cannot be revived in this window, degeneration makes it impossible.

But on the other side we know the chemicals and compounds can assemble into living organisms, life itself is testament of that.
The key to building life has been discovered, and even some of the process, but this knowledge isn't quite detailed enough to reproduce what happen. But this will be solved soon, and you will with your jaw blabbing denial and religious belief left in the utter stupidity, that you repeat mindlessly like the thrall of the imaginary god you worshiper you are.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#101511 Oct 18, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer the question dumbass, I haven't claimed anything .. its your own words I'm using! How can something that was alive then dead not be able to come back to life, yet something that was never alive can? These are your words! You are not ignorant ,no,...you are just taking comically stupid positions to defend your beliefs. Then when your stupidity is exposed you accuse others of ignorance! Pitiful
Moron, try again.

Clearly you do not understand abiogenesis. Clearly you do not understand evolution. In fact you do not even understand what spontaneous generation is or isn't.

Try to ask a proper question idiot and you will get a proper answer. If you keep on asking questions like an idiot I will simply point out that you are being an idiot.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Lakeland, FL

#101512 Oct 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah it would suck to have to re-write all that they have said is the way it was. lol
I wouldn't suck. Anymore than Einstein trumping Newton. It would just lead to a deeper understanding. Which is the intent of science.

Discussing what I posted would have been more useful than just one more smart remark from you.

“I started out with nothing”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#101513 Oct 19, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>
Donner, and Prancer and Vixen...
You want to believe in Santa clause then thatís entirely up to you

Funny how the story gives them antlers in December, musts be god magic

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