Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173766 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#101192 Oct 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Nope, actually the Bible supports a flat Earth, a round Earth, AND a square Earth. But hey, that's what you get when you combine a disparate group of ignorant goatherders who don't know anything about reality and tell them to keep tacking things on at the end.(shrug)
Nope. Your barbaric ancestors did more than that. Grow up!

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#101193 Oct 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Really? Since most people who think like you are idol worshippers. They worship a book about God instead of worshipping God.
What happened many thousands of years and centuries ago, can not be replayed, that was why it was put into a book for this generation to see.

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#101194 Oct 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Probably Chuck.
Either him or that new sockpuppet from the esteemed educational facility at Corpus Christi who knows we're all wrong but can't articulate why.
Look at them! Are you fighting for Sub who once lied that, English belongs to the US? Any way, birds of a feather.

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#101195 Oct 15, 2013
replaytime wrote:
Ok new subject. Science does not know exactly why ice is slippery. Who is going to be first to tackle this one?
Good! Science in all sense, has its own limitations just like humans birth and death.

“Good day to you!”

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#101196 Oct 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Nothing.
Because you're not even interested in learning about it.
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Despite your ignorance life could even exist in our own solar system, and still many places all over the universe. Based on how little we have actually explored the universe (which contains BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of galaxies) it is hardly surprising we haven't found much yet.
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How do you know they don't exist? Just where exactly have you searched?
I'll tell you - Earth.
Meanwhile cosmologists are scouring the universe and are still more optimistic than you. Why? Because they know what they're talking about.
So no, your point DOESN'T stand.
lol...you evolutionists are such hypocrites. You believe as creationists that non life created life. Yet you chuckle at them for thinking such an absurd thought when the fact remains what created life is a present unknown be it lifeless inorganic matter or an invisible being that made itself from nothing to exist.
Then there's the fact that there's as much evidence to show life doesn't exist anywhere else as there is evidence to show a global flood couldn't have happened according to you.
Here's a substantiated fact. We have a wide variety of planets with different chemical make ups in this solar system. If life could have been sustained in different forms on other planets as it's happened on this planet, those planets had about the same amount of time or more to develop that life through the same process of evolution as it's happened on this planet. And here's some more of your hypocrisy. You make excuses for why life can't be found yet you howl at those who by the same logic supply excuses for why a global flood hasn't been found. Too fricking good, you go dude.

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#101197 Oct 16, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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True. Though only the tiniest of a fraction of them.
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The 'search' has only been going on for an extremely short time. Even is we go back to Tesla, we still talking about less than 150 years. Not really enough time to do any kind of exhaustive search.
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That's your interpretation. If you research it, it seems that we're finding planets that could possible harbor life. More planets. Not less planets.
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Again, you have a very poor understanding of the distance and time frames involved.
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See last comment.
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Nope.
In theory, systems older than our own that are like our own should have developed life as our own or maybe even a different life form that has accelerated to having an intelligent specie like ourselves but more developed. That's in theory. And with that developed intelligence one would think they would have came here in discovering us long before we knew of them. That's in theory.
But what science has shown in it's research is that life as developed as our own is a growing improbability. People of science was theorized life as our own did exist else where. Finding none science has settled for looking for just cell life or even fossilized life. Understand? Science is reaching for the smallest straws to reason why life developed here and so far obviously hasn't developed elsewhere in like manner.
We know life exists we just don't why it exists.

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#101198 Oct 16, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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I know what scientists have stated. Sadly, you do not. Maybe if you'd get over your arrogance, you might listen to them.
Cite one scientist that claims the earth can do anything it wants.
This is easy. Let's begin with an actual science teacher shall we?Please go to your nearest middle school and find a science teacher and ask them if the earth has the capability to cause one or more natural catastrophes it will on a minor or major scale. See, I don't know about you, but I was taught by science teachers and professors of science while in school that the earth can do whatever it will as far as catastrophes go. According to you your science teachers taught you the exact opposite that the earth has a limited potential and can only do so much concerning natural catastrophes according to the dictates of humans (like you and your science teachers)and what they think the planet can do and won't do. Speaking of arrogance...you and your mind control of this planet...got ya lol

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#101199 Oct 16, 2013
The different arguments going on that God does not is a surprising thing to me. Scientist do believe in the existence of longitudes, latitudes, equators, meridian, etc. All these are imaginary lines(lines that can not be seen), but they believe in its existence.

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#101200 Oct 16, 2013
Conclusively. If those invisible lines exist, then the almighty God who is also invisible exist. Case closed!

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#101201 Oct 16, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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If the above was just feasibly possible which I'm all for possibilities, it would seem with the wide varied chemical make up of the planets in our own solar system, they would have in the same manner along the same timeline developed 'some type' of life that we would have discovered about by now. Since we know of no life on those planets, as people are fond of saying in here, that's plenty of evidence against life existing else where.
Absolutely not , we have "somewhat" investigated two places physically , we have close orbit pictures of a couple dozen.
There is still the possibility there is here in this solar system.
Though I admit that the prospects are low of us finding advanced lifeforms within this system, there is still a high degree of possibility we could find primitive forms, such as bacteria.

But to put this into perspective in this galaxy alone conservatively there are as many as 1-400,000,000 places to look at the very least. You have given up after 2 real checks and 24 fly by's. Just as an experiment I want you to see if you can spot life in this picture.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Because we didn't spot any on another planet yet, doesn't mean we wont find at least the microscopic kind eventually right here.

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#101202 Oct 16, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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What is that we believe is LUCA/MRCA?
Apples & Oranges.

Two separate concepts.

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#101203 Oct 16, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
Conclusively. If those invisible lines exist, then the almighty God who is also invisible exist. Case closed!
Invisible lines are imaginary Charles, because we...humans made them up , and they exist only in our minds to represent something.

Are you conceding that god is the same thing?

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#101204 Oct 16, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
The different arguments going on that God does not is a surprising thing to me. Scientist do believe in the existence of longitudes, latitudes, equators, meridian, etc. All these are imaginary lines(lines that can not be seen), but they believe in its existence.
All those examples you posted above are tools made by and employed by MAN.

Much like the concept of a Supreme Being.

The difference being we can detect longitudes, latitudes, equators, and meridians.

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#101205 Oct 16, 2013
Beat me to it, Aura.

Great minds....yadda, yadda.

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#101206 Oct 16, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
Beat me to it, Aura.
Great minds....yadda, yadda.
Hiya Kong lol hope everything is going swell in Fla.
Charles cracks me up big time.
I can use my imagination as physical evidence today...
um I imagine I can..... yep! LOL!
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#101207 Oct 16, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
lol...fricking to funny. You're a supposed evolutionist that believes life came from non life which is no different than what creationists claim and you think less of them...lol.
No, creationists don't think life came from non-life. Ever.
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Than you have a problem reading what I actually wrote and responding to it in kind.
No, it's you who has that problem.
No Surprise wrote:
The single life form I spoke of was not LUCA(LUCY)you meant to spell?
No I meant what I wrote and spelled it correctly. If you had the slightest idea of what you were talking about you would understand that. As it is you don't even have a basic rudimentary science education which for some reason means you think you can make lots of silly proclamations about science which are acually BS and think you should be taken seriously.
No Surprise wrote:
Who said it was just one single solitary planet? Don't you read much? Most scientists have 'claimed' it and they keep proving that claim each time they have a new telescope and or machine to see just a bit farther into the universe than the last time they looked.
No, since no scientists have found alien life on other planets yet. None. Nor have they claimed to. Although if I were to say come back when you knew what you were talking about then you probably would never come back.
The Dude

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#101208 Oct 16, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You have to give them a break. According to science nothing could ever pass through the corona of the sun and survive. But it happened and it wasn't even something big. This is all new to them and goes against what they have been told by science. So now they have to re-think and have time to come up with new excuses for answers. Give them a little time and they will come up with some BS answer.
Actually you're lying, because like him, you're conflating passing through the corona with a direct hit to the heart of the sun. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your silly little rants.(shrug)
The Dude

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#101209 Oct 16, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
If the above was just feasibly possible which I'm all for possibilities, it would seem with the wide varied chemical make up of the planets in our own solar system, they would have in the same manner along the same timeline developed 'some type' of life that we would have discovered about by now.
Since we've hardly checked even our own solar system, there could still be life here. Or maybe there was in the past. Mars for example. We've hardly scratched the surface. But since it once had an atmosphere MAYBE life developed. And MAYBE it still lives underground. Also Europa is a good candidate for life under the ice, but it'll be a while before we can dig under it. Most of the rest of the solar system though doesn't appear to be condusive to life.
No Surprise wrote:
Since we know of no life on those planets, as people are fond of saying in here, that's plenty of evidence against life existing else where.
Actually there is ZERO evidence against life existing elsewhere. We just haven't been able to find it yet because we haven't BEEN there yet. Also our instruments are barely good enough to see planets orbiting stars. When that gets better we may hopefully be able to see planets directly and use spectroscopy to determine its chemical makeup. That MAY indicate life on that planet, but again it won't be certain.

If you carry on talking you will carry on telling the whole world what you don't know.
The Dude

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#101210 Oct 16, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Here's what I know. Anything can be a possibility.
And mountains may float on thin air tomorrow.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#101211 Oct 16, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
I agree and this is where I've used your logic for why life else where doesn't exist
No you haven't.
No Surprise wrote:
and you don't seem to like me doing it. Why is that? For all the 'reasonable' evidence you claim exists to prove a global flood never happened, every time we look farther and farther into the universe, every time we get to analyze a planet's chemical makeup and or it's surface, we reveal overwhelming evidence life exists on earth and only earth.
No, all we find is that life isn't where we looked yet. Or we haven't actually looked closely enough because we don't yet have the tech to do so.

Life does not violate physics.

Global flood does.

That is the difference.

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