Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>is that the royal we? are you schizoid or just really, really hung up on yourself?
sheesh!
We as in me, myself and I. Do you not have the same in you?

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i bet the sumerians got the magic to balance bikes when the UFOs braught them watches and elephants from the americas...
Here tick educate yourself. What you think is simple is not so simple. Knowing how to ride a bike and what actually makes it work are totally different things other than gears, sprockets and tires.

We still donít really know how bicycles work.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/07/mysteries...

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We as in me, myself and I. Do you not have the same in you?
Sure pal, sure...

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<quoted text>Gyroscopic action.
Same as with a moving bicycle.
yes, no magic involved in how bicycles work...

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i've never used them once.
Sure pal, sure... Hey that answer works for you right? LOL

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Sure pal, sure... Hey that answer works for you right? LOL
yes it does, but i don't feel i can talk for others like you do...ego much?

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<quoted text>Gyroscopic action.
Same as with a moving bicycle.
The Gyroscopic effect is just a small part of it.

A simple explanation does not seem possible because the lean and steer are coupled by a combination of several effects including gyroscopic precession, lateral ground-reaction forces at the front wheel ground contact point trailing behind the steering axis, the wheels being so narrow, gravity and inertial reactions from the front assembly having center-of-mass off of the steer axis, and from effects associated with the moment of inertia matrix of the front assembly. One also has to take in/consider centrifugal force and the castor effect.

Tick I would suggest you read up some before you respond to this.
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After the Big Bang, the universe was sterile. SOMETHING happened to cause life to appear out of nothing.
YES, Something Happened.That's why we creationist believe in GOD.

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OK you win, everything says that regardless the method employed
to initiate the lean in a curve, that counter steering occurs.
I can't argue with that, it just wasn't my intuition of it.
I felt the same way once.

The action is so deeply ingrained most of us don't even realize that we do it.

Creationists should note this. Aura has corrected me in the past. and provided evidence, I agreed that he was right. I corrected Aura this time. We both have learned because of each other.

He did not deny my sources since they went against his beliefs, I did not deny his sources since they went against my beliefs. We both have profited by this. Perhaps you could do the same.

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<quoted text>Gyroscopic action.
Same as with a moving bicycle.
Oh NOOOOOO!

I already went through this with Aura.

Nope, counter steering.

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After the Big Bang, the universe was sterile. SOMETHING happened to cause life to appear out of nothing.
YES, Something Happened.That's why we creationist believe in GOD.
Who says anything had to "cause" this? So far chemistry seems like it could do it on its own.

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The Gyroscopic effect is just a small part of it.
A simple explanation does not seem possible because the lean and steer are coupled by a combination of several effects including gyroscopic precession, lateral ground-reaction forces at the front wheel ground contact point trailing behind the steering axis, the wheels being so narrow, gravity and inertial reactions from the front assembly having center-of-mass off of the steer axis, and from effects associated with the moment of inertia matrix of the front assembly. One also has to take in/consider centrifugal force and the castor effect.
Tick I would suggest you read up some before you respond to this.
yeah, the rest is the rider.. a bike won't stay up indefinitely without a rider...

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After the Big Bang, the universe was sterile. SOMETHING happened to cause life to appear out of nothing.
YES, Something Happened.That's why we creationist believe in GOD.
why would it have to be some god? what god do you have that hasn't been proven to be a fake myth? i don't believe any one has one of those yet...

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, no magic involved in how bicycles work...
I was actually mentioning what keeps a rolling coin upright.

It also helps moving bicycles do the same.

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<quoted text>yeah, the rest is the rider.. a bike won't stay up indefinitely without a rider...
But yet it will stay up quite a while with no rider. The part you seem to keep ignoring.

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<quoted text>why would it have to be some god? what god do you have that hasn't been proven to be a fake myth? i don't believe any one has one of those yet...
Not only stay up with out a rider, but correct itself, make turns, make jumps etc etc.

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Not only stay up with out a rider, but correct itself, make turns, make jumps etc etc.
a bike with no rider makes turns? you mean it may veer to one side and correct itself.

now it seems you are giving these riderless bikes intelligence...that's one hell of a gyroscopic effect...

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Not only stay up with out a rider, but correct itself, make turns, make jumps etc etc.
Attack of the riderless bikes?
Like a bicycle stampede?

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<quoted text> a bike with no rider makes turns? you mean it may veer to one side and correct itself.
now it seems you are giving these riderless bikes intelligence...that's one hell of a gyroscopic effect...
The bike in that video was on a track. the track was going downhill. Gravity was keeping it rolling so it was maintaining speed even without a rider. No intelligence necessary and I think any pseudo-corrections were the result of the track and gravity.

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<quoted text>The bike in that video was on a track. the track was going downhill. Gravity was keeping it rolling so it was maintaining speed even without a rider. No intelligence necessary and I think any pseudo-corrections were the result of the track and gravity.
Some grocery carts seem to come alive in the parking lot, but we know it's just gravity and wind. I saw one head down the parking lot zig zaging, going over bumps stopping a few times, but eventually made it to the street. Then proceeded to go down it, I wasn't ready to declare it a new life form...lol

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