Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Sep 22, 2013
 
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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With out invoking magic.
You do understand there is no such thing as magic, don't you??

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You do understand there is no such thing as magic, don't you??
Christine O'Donnell turned me into a newt!

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Sep 22, 2013
 
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<quoted text>So, you are presenting your new-found knowledge to the science journals for peer review....right?
You don't like this?

You doubt these statements?

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<quoted text>What kind of phone do you have....so I can stay away from one like it.
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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously not. Last time I checked the laws were still on the books.

:-)
In the QUOTE from Steven Hawkings
For him to explain the start of time he had to remove all the laws of physic for time to happen. Now seeing that you think you know more then him you feel free to explain time within the laws of physics. Hawkings needed magic for time to come into existence, what do you need?

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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>You write:
"Science can't explain.
Life
The universe
With out invoking magic.
That's rather big."

Like I said, we don't know it all at the same time....we're working on it.

Give it a rest.

You're knowledge base stopped 2,000 years ago.
Give what a rest?
Defending my belief when under attack?

Or just plane embarrassing science with facts.

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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Different subject....

By the way, what do you think of the recent discovery that humans and Neanderthals are blood relatives, and were sharing the earth for tens of thousands of years?
What do you think of banana's sharing 50% of our DNA?

We must have been banana's at one time! LOL

Similar designs is evidence of a common creator.

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Sep 22, 2013
 
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<quoted text>I'm comfortable with my statement as-is, and I'm sure Steven Hawkings would agree with me.

As well would Stephen Hawking, the physicist.
I'll ask Steve baby and let you know.

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Sep 22, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Actually it was Hawking that first said BH's could even even violate the some of the laws, so not only break down they fall apart.

But he took it back because other physicists arguing with him.
While some still contend Hawking was right about it to start with.
But all of us here with physics backgrounds know that physics laws
especially concerning GR break down in a singularity.
GR breaks down in more places then that.

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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>You do understand there is no such thing as magic, don't you??
You do understand that every time science claims all the laws of physics break down then this happened. Is a call for magic. In other words an impossibility.

Time existence is an impossibility!

Got it?

I've try to point this out to you just about every way I can think of.

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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What do you think of banana's sharing 50% of our DNA?
We must have been banana's at one time! LOL
Similar designs is evidence of a common creator.
A banana has a similar design to a human penis while erect. That is evidence that God wants you to treat a penis like a banana by holding it in your hand or possible your mouth.

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Sep 22, 2013
 
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I'll ask Steve baby and let you know.
Great!

And I'll ask Stephen should I ever run into him.
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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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You do understand that every time science claims all the laws of physics break down then this happened. Is a call for magic. In other words an impossibility.
Time existence is an impossibility!
Got it?
I've try to point this out to you just about every way I can think of.
Just because you are too friggen flakey to ever be on time does not mean it goes for the rest of us as well :-)

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Sep 22, 2013
 
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>Great!

And I'll ask Stephen should I ever run into him.
He's the one in the wheel chair and has a computer talk for him. Ya can't miss him.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Give what a rest?
Defending my belief when under attack?
Or just plane embarrassing science with facts.
You don't embarrass science, you embarrass America and the human race, for have such idiotic people such as you... included in it.

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spOko wrote:
<quoted text>Just because you are too friggen flakey to ever be on time does not mean it goes for the rest of us as well :-)
Being on time.....

A rather weird concept.

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This is how science invokes magic.

They will say something like this:

"At this point all the laws of physic break down so now this can happen because there is no laws preventing it"

Also known as magic.

The BB is based on this claim.
The start of time is based on this.

Science believes in magic but not a creator how cleaver is that?

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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He's the one in the wheel chair and has a computer talk for him. Ya can't miss him.
....it's still going right over your head, huh?

“Good day to you!”

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Gillette wrote:
No, but there is plenty of evidence that someone named Moses did NOT write the first five books of the Bible. It's called the Documentary Hypothesis, and it is what is taught in all the mainstream Christian seminaries, divinity schools and university religion departments in the world.
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Unfortunately, there is no evidence that it DID happen, which is what counts in archeology. 400,000 people "wandering for 40 years" in a fairly confined space like the Saudi desert would have left plenty of traces, none of which are found.
Someone named Moses could have been the author for the original first five books. But we don't know that. What we know is that older and older bits and pieces of the first five books are being found with each passing decade it seems. So the actual age of the first five books is an unknown. The five ancient books that we do have were obviously written by someone other than the 'supposed' author called Moses.
One would think there would be evidence for a mass exodus. But just because we have no actual evidence that doesn't mean it didn't take place. When science disbelieves something without researching what it disbelieves, nothing gets researched. Concerning the exodus, it's been mainly theists with science backgrounds that have looked for clues and evidence. And what they think is evidence general science scoffs at because it deals with an invisible being.
An example of how science reacts to things are the cocaine mummies.
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/ethnic/m...
Cergtain scientists won't even involve themselves in the matter because of two points they make.#1. In a one-page article appearing in Naturwissenschaften, German scientist Svetla Balabanova (1992) and two of her colleagues reported findings of cocaine, hashish and nicotine in Egyptian mummies. The findings were immediately identified as improbable on the grounds that two of the substances were known to be derived only from American plants - cocaine from Erythroxylon coca, and nicotine from Nicotiana tabacum. The suggestion that such compounds could have found their way to Egypt before Columbus' discovery of America seemed patently impossible.#2.“The major reason for the initial criticisms to Balabanova's work is the disbelief in pre-Columbian transoceanic contacts. Egyptologist John Baines (Discovery, 1997) went so far as to state, "The idea that the Egyptians should have traveled to America is overall absurd...and I also don't know anyone who spends time doing research in these areas, because they're not perceived to be areas that have any real meaning for the subjects."
People of science have long proved it's easier to have a closed mind than an open one that would require then to do actual investigations.

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