Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Full Story

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Tempe, AZ.

#99840 Sep 20, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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On feed me how time started
And how a 14.8 billion year old star fits into our universe that could only start creating stars 12.7 billion years ago.
Oh and what are the odds that this star is the oldest star?
Science claims to know about 2% of the universe and that 2% is more then enough for you. Rather sad.
So, should I start the procedure to nominate you for a Nobel prize.

And when do you plan to announce this information to the whole world and thereby prove Christianity to all the world??

You know about the group of Christians that go around and lie for Jesus don't you.

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Everett, WA

#99841 Sep 20, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Where can I go to verify this star story??
http://www.space.com/20112-oldest-known-star-...

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Everett, WA

#99842 Sep 20, 2013
Please note, the error bar still puts the star within the age of the universe so it really is not that big of a problem.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#99843 Sep 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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No that's the same thing.
God was never created he is the creator!
Because God was not created does not mean there is no God.
It's blind statements like this that will cost you a price I wish on few to ever have to go through.
http://youtu.be/l5Qn7mFU4EA
Once again you present us with a 'god' that cannot be verified in any way whatsoever. You have zero proof of your invisible friend and zero proof that anything is going to happen, and you get pissed if no one believes you.

What's up with fundamentalist Christians. They seem to get crazier every year. The end times' has been predicted for 2,000 years now and every one has been wrong....even Jesus was wrong when he predicted the end. That's a SURE sign that your Messiah is a fake.

Can you even imagine how stupid your story of God is....ooooh, he was always there floating around in space, no beginning, no end. He creates the whole universe and everything in it. He creates us and our world and then sticks around to eventually tell the Hebrews how to treat their menstruating women and how far away from camp to shit.

And where the hell was he when mankind was evolving for 200,000+- years on the African veldt, and finally the rest of the world? The Hebrews din't acknowledge a monotheist god until about 600 BC.

Your stories and Bible are full of inane myths that CANNOT be reconciled with modern science and should be really dissected and reasoned on by sane people.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Tempe, AZ.

#99844 Sep 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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But it does.
Steven Hawkins:
At this time, the Big Bang, all the matter in the universe, would have been on top of itself. The density would have been infinite. It would have been what is called, a singularity. At a singularity, all the laws of physics would have broken down.
" all the laws of physics would have broken down. "
Magic not science. No laws of physics then its magic.
The mans last name is HAWKING!

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Tempe, AZ.

#99845 Sep 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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It takes about a billion years for the universe to reach the point where it could start creating so now a 14.8 year old star hast to fit in a 12.7 billion year old star creating universe.
It doesn't fit does it?
More proof that the BB is a myth.
You really don't understand science at all.
spOko

Oakland, CA

#99846 Sep 21, 2013
You dont like the Big Bang? Here is an alternative.
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-universe...

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#99847 Sep 21, 2013
spOko wrote:
You dont like the Big Bang? Here is an alternative.
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-universe...
Understanding is not a question of like.

It is a question of truth.

Answer the question with the truth.

Do you know the truthful answer?

More questions will be raised , than those that can be answered.
Are you ready for this realization centurion?
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#99848 Sep 21, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Who feeds you all this wrong information about science??

It (Big Bang) is an attempt to interpret the facts available in a natural light. Science DOES NOT deal with magical stuff....which the Bible uses to explain a natural world.
As your super hero Steven Hawkins states:

For time to exist all the laws of physics are broken.
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#99849 Sep 21, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Steven HAWKING has been wrong before.

Again, who is feeding you this wrong science.
And Science is wrong on 3 myths right off the too if my head that I can think of.
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#99850 Sep 21, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>With an error margin of 0.8 billion? Not a major worry.

How do you explain... well, anything?

Goddidit with magic. There IS no explaining. The epitomy of ignorance. And you're sure on board with that.
Are Your happy that you think you got this star to fit into your theory?

What are the chances that this is the oldest star?.000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000000 0000001%

http://m.space.com/20112-oldest-known-star-un...

The oldest known star appears to be older than the universe itself, but a new study is helping to clear up this seeming paradox.
Previous research had estimated that the Milky Way galaxy's so-called "Methuselah star" is up to 16 billion years old. That's a problem, since most researchers agree that the Big Bang that created the universe occurred about 13.8 billion years ago.

Now a team of astronomers has derived a new, less nonsensical age for the Methuselah star, incorporating information about its distance, brightness, composition and structure.

"Put all of those ingredients together, and you get an age of 14.5 billion years, with a residual uncertainty that makes the star's age compatible with the age of the universe," study lead author Howard Bond, of Pennsylvania State University and the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, said in a statement.[Gallery: The Methuselah Star Revealed]
The uncertainty Bond refers to is plus or minus 800 million years, which means the star could actually be 13.7 billion years old — younger than the universe as it's currently understood, though just barely.

**********
Note the effort to wiggle this star into the age if the universe.

Eye wide open!

It took the universe around a billion years to cool to the point where it couldn't star producing stars.(If you buy into the BB)

"After 1 billion years, the temperature is 20 K and galaxies and stars have begun to form via gravitational contraction of over-densities in the initial Universe. A a few billion years our Galaxy forms, at about 10 billion years after the Big Bang the Sun and Earth form. After 15 billion years we reach the present and a background temperature of about 3 K."

http://www.astro.utu.fi/~cflynn/Stars/l1.html

This star with out question proves the BB a Myth.
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#99851 Sep 21, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares.(shrug)
God

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Tempe, AZ.

#99852 Sep 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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As your super hero Steven Hawkins states:
For time to exist all the laws of physics are broken.
Obviously not.

Do you think things through?
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#99853 Sep 21, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>In a way He did, in the head's of the believers - no?
God exist outside of time (which he created) God exist outside the laws of physics which he also created.

God tells man "I am the Alpha and Omega"

Man kind can't expect to fully understand Heaven or Hell. That does not make them mythical or magical.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Tempe, AZ.

#99854 Sep 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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As your super hero Steven Hawkins states:
For time to exist all the laws of physics are broken.
You're still misspelling Hawking....it's Steven Hawking.
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#99855 Sep 21, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>Einstein disagrees (space-time curves)!
Perpetual motion breaks the laws of physics, nothing exists w/o time – nothing!
Including Time.

Time cannot come into existence with out time.

The existence of time is proof of creation.
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#99856 Sep 21, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Where can I go to verify this star story??
I'm sorry wordy I thought this. Star was common knowledge.

Here you go.

http://m.space.com/20112-oldest-known-star-un...

The oldest known star appears to be older than the universe itself, but a new study is helping to clear up this seeming paradox.
Previous research had estimated that the Milky Way galaxy's so-called "Methuselah star" is up to 16 billion years old. That's a problem, since most researchers agree that the Big Bang that created the universe occurred about 13.8 billion years ago.

Now a team of astronomers has derived a new, less nonsensical age for the Methuselah star, incorporating information about its distance, brightness, composition and structure.

"Put all of those ingredients together, and you get an age of 14.5 billion years, with a residual uncertainty that makes the star's age compatible with the age of the universe," study lead author Howard Bond, of Pennsylvania State University and the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, said in a statement.[Gallery: The Methuselah Star Revealed]
The uncertainty Bond refers to is plus or minus 800 million years, which means the star could actually be 13.7 billion years old — younger than the universe as it's currently understood, though just barely.

**********
Note the effort to wiggle this star into the age if the universe.

Eye wide open!

It took the universe around a billion years to cool to the point where it couldn't star producing stars.(If you buy into the BB)

__________

"After 1 billion years, the temperature is 20 K and galaxies and stars have begun to form via gravitational contraction of over-densities in the initial Universe. A a few billion years our Galaxy forms, at about 10 billion years after the Big Bang the Sun and Earth form. After 15 billion years we reach the present and a background temperature of about 3 K."

http://www.astro.utu.fi/~cflynn/Stars/l1.html
Huh

Owatonna, MN

#99857 Sep 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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God exist outside of time (which he created) God exist outside the laws of physics which he also created.
God tells man "I am the Alpha and Omega"
Man kind can't expect to fully understand Heaven or Hell. That does not make them mythical or magical.
And the only so called proof you have for your cults god is a 2000 year old book written by uneducated sheep farmers.....
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I will stick with facts...you can have your myth cults crap.
drink The hivE

New York, NY

#99859 Sep 21, 2013
Do U Meed A Med' Adjustment?...

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#99860 Sep 21, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Will you stop fixating?

I know I've explained the Rapid Expansion Phase to you before.
Yes I've heard the guess you believe in.

Per science In order for time to exists all the laws of physics had to be broken.

For this to happen with out God then you believe in magic. Unsupported scientific guess and you have faith in it.

Your religion will not get you into heaven, but it will land you in one of the places in the Bible that starts with "HE"

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