Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222728 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Step-n-Fetch This

Berea, OH

#99557 Sep 9, 2013
Which would black people come from, evolution or creation because the way they're born is, when someone poops in the woods, maggots form in the poop and then some of the maggots become negroes.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99558 Sep 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>A man who doesn't appreciate a good donut is not to be trusted. Enjoy your wheatgrass and mashed yeast.
Ewww! pretty much just the balanced diet i grew up with. meat, potatoes and veggies.
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Since: Jun 13

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#99559 Sep 9, 2013
JBH wrote:
OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST LOSER OF ALL TIMES.
OBAMA LOOKS VERY BAD AND is being VIEWED POORLY IN THE SHOWING DURING G-20 SUMMIT.
Obama is tremendously being put down.

Obama is already damned and downed in Russia's G-20 Summit.
Obama is already downgraded and burnt in boiling water deep trouble. Obama has fear as a downout loser coming out from G-20.

Pictures show when Putin is looking at the G-20 Summit people in the line up, Obama is very afraid of Putin, by trying to close his eyes by being scared, while some others just laugh, like Germany's Merkel.

Obama could have fainted when Putin keeps the focus on rejecting and disapproving, as if denouncing Obama.

Obama talks as if he does not know what is going on, while communicates in lost term that he knows he is a degrading person not making it all the way.

Obama is totally bruised and feels burnt out in Russia, that he has become as a frightened freak.
You need to choose your words better.

"OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST LOSER OF ALL TIMES."

He has won many elections including the presidency twice. He has millions and millions of backers.

He is no loser and no dummy.
Your opinion that he is not currently doing or acting the way you would that I would understand.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#99560 Sep 9, 2013
Croco_Duck wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think it is quite so easy for life to arise. If it was, then wouldn't we have lifeforms that are not related to us with DNA?
Yeah, that's just scientists doing their thing.

If this DNA or DNA precursor have been/are floating around the galaxy and causing occasional lifeforms to blossom....maybe we and the aliens share DNA.:-)

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#99561 Sep 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>What I don't need is your patronizing tone. You don't seem to understand that a theory of a "creative energy" can exist quite independently from any religious idea of Creationism. I believe that the bible is essentially a bunch of hokum that actually prevents a search of our origins. It does not discover any truths, so it just makes them up.
Why you continue to insist that a theory of a creative initiator must rely on biblical teachings is beyond me. My thoughts on the matter have nothing to do with religion or the bible. It fact, they are antithetical to those beliefs, and are certainly not based on "myths".
With regard to your interpretation of atheism, if you mean it is a position that says the burden of proof is on those who claim there is a deity, I can accept that definition. If it goes on to claim with smug certainty that such a deity does not exist, that is intellectually unacceptable.
Finally, I get the sense that you believe your thoughts on the matter are somehow more perceptive than mine. If that is the case, I think the cosmos can get along quite well without our debates.
Interesting....what are your beliefs regarding the beginnings of our world and humanity?

“Happiness comes through giving”

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#99563 Sep 9, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting....what are your beliefs regarding the beginnings of our world and humanity?
If you wish to take the trouble, my beliefs, such as they are, can be seen in my recent posts.
Why not tell me your beliefs?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#99564 Sep 9, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
That was taken from this article written 04/07/09 and the one you posted was written 04/13/09. The link to the original is after the last paragraph in the one you posted.
Humans and Aliens Might Share DNA Roots
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/the...
They just keep falling from the sky.:-)

"Scientists have discovered unexpected ingredients for life — organic molecules never seen before in meteorites — inside a chunk of space rock that fell to Earth over California last year, scientists say.

The discovery comes from an analysis of the so-called Sutter's Mill meteorite, which lit up the California night sky with a dazzling fireball in April 2012. Meteorite fragments from the event may shed light on the primordial ooze that helped give rise to life on Earth, researchers said.

http://news.yahoo.com/meteorite-brought-surpr...

I'm waiting until they have more data
Agent 010

Suva, Fiji

#99565 Sep 9, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
They just keep falling from the sky.:-)
"Scientists have discovered unexpected ingredients for life — organic molecules never seen before in meteorites — inside a chunk of space rock that fell to Earth over California last year, scientists say.
The discovery comes from an analysis of the so-called Sutter's Mill meteorite, which lit up the California night sky with a dazzling fireball in April 2012. Meteorite fragments from the event may shed light on the primordial ooze that helped give rise to life on Earth, researchers said.
http://news.yahoo.com/meteorite-brought-surpr...
I'm waiting until they have more data
Here's the data:

http://bit.ly/16eabEW

http://bit.ly/1avTkBM

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#99566 Sep 10, 2013
Agent 010 above is pure spam....stay away

“When you treat people as they ”

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Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#99567 Sep 10, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be Godwin's law:
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches. In other words, Godwin said that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
No godbots law involved, I was stating fact

"In this hour I would ask of the Lord God only this: that He would give His blessing to our work, and that He may ever give us the courage to do the right. I am convinced that men who are created by God should live in accordance with the will of the Almighty. No man can fashion world history unless upon his purpose and his powers there rests the blessings of this Providence."
Adolph Hitler - 1937

See also

http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian...

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#99568 Sep 10, 2013
KlearMastKO1 wrote:
Creation Wins
Sure it does... but ONLY if complete ignorance is the goal

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#99569 Sep 10, 2013
"Voltaire was a French philosopher in the 1700s who was not afraid to criticize the church or the aristocracy. He was thrown into prison a number of times for his outspoken views and he spent much of his life in exile.

Voltaire wanted to replace Christianity with ‘natural religion’. He wrote that although our observations of design and intelligence in nature make the existence of God obvious, organized religion can cause us to associate God with superstition and fanaticism. He said that believing in God makes us aspire to be good. If God did not exist then we would need to invent him.

In 1764, he released a book called ‘Philosophical Dictionary’ in which he exposed the myths of Christianity and highlighted the corruptions of the church. Addressing those who would defend the church and its mythology for the sake of trying to uphold public morality, he wrote ...

“Don't you see that you pervert these poor people? Among them are many more rational thinkers than you realize. They laugh at your miracles and superstitions. They have enough good sense to see that you are preaching to them a discreditable religion, but they do not have enough sense to raise themselves to a pure religion free from superstition. Their passions make them believe that there is no religion at all because the only one they are taught is ridiculous. And so you become guilty of all the vices into which they plunge.

You would be stoned to death by the people if you taught them impure morals. Men have been made in such a way that they are quite willing to do evil, but they do not want it preached to them. Nothing can be gained from preaching wise morals that will be rejected because they are mixed with absurd fables. Because of your deceptions, which you could easily do without, you weaken the morality which you are obliged to teach.

It is necessary for every man to be honest, and the surest way to instill justice in all men is to teach them religion without superstition.”--Voltaire

http://www.evolutionary-metaphysics.net/rise_...

“It is what it is”

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Since: Mar 13

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#99571 Sep 11, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>
When you are dead, you don't know that you’re dead but it obvious to everyone else. It’s the same when you are stupid. Hint Hint!!

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#99572 Sep 11, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Just two requests:
1-Show me those already proven "myths", and the proof that they are false.
2-Show me the proof to support atheism, which is a position of certainty.
Aaaaaand the Topic cycle starts again...

“Good day to you!”

Level 2

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#99573 Sep 11, 2013
The following has to do with this forum.
So opinions from will be necessary here as evidence/facts will not be a resource to reference from. Intelligent thought out opinions would be nice.
We have 'life after death experiences' that science basicly claims the human mind has been 'brain washed' to produce such said experiences in various people, religious and nonreligious because of the heavy theistic influences we are suffered to from birth to death.
If the above holds true, then why doesn't the opposite happen which by all facts of our evolution should be happening?
We have been 'brainwashed' about the evolution of this earth and the birth of the stars and how we come from it all for almost as long as theism has been around, especially for the last few centuries.
Why aren't there as many 'life after death' experiences happening to people with visions of how the earth and stars came to be? The same 'brainwashing' logic can be rationally applied to either possibility.
So we have people being 'brainwashed' to two forms of creation and both forms come with 'supposed' supported pictures, writings, etc but only one type of creation is experienced by people having NDE.
Why?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99574 Sep 11, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
When you are dead, you don't know that you’re dead but it obvious to everyone else. It’s the same when you are stupid. Hint Hint!!
And when you say you are "playing stupid" when you get caught out saying the most incredibly ignorant stuff...we all know you aren't playing at all...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99575 Sep 11, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
The following has to do with this forum.
So opinions from will be necessary here as evidence/facts will not be a resource to reference from. Intelligent thought out opinions would be nice.
We have 'life after death experiences' that science basicly claims the human mind has been 'brain washed' to produce such said experiences in various people, religious and nonreligious because of the heavy theistic influences we are suffered to from birth to death.
If the above holds true, then why doesn't the opposite happen which by all facts of our evolution should be happening?
We have been 'brainwashed' about the evolution of this earth and the birth of the stars and how we come from it all for almost as long as theism has been around, especially for the last few centuries.
Why aren't there as many 'life after death' experiences happening to people with visions of how the earth and stars came to be? The same 'brainwashing' logic can be rationally applied to either possibility.
So we have people being 'brainwashed' to two forms of creation and both forms come with 'supposed' supported pictures, writings, etc but only one type of creation is experienced by people having NDE.
Why?
why would brains that are dying think of that? people naturally think of their life and loved ones when they are dying.

i clearly remember the guy that gave me CPR when i was dead but i was told i couldn't, as i had no heartbeat and wasn't breathing. but of course, i do. my brain was still working...this is all "life after death" experiences are, what the brain is thinking as it is dying..or almost dying in these cases...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99576 Sep 11, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaaaaand the Topic cycle starts again...
natch...Lawrence is a good guy, he just seemed to misunderstand what i was saying...
spOko

Oakland, CA

#99577 Sep 11, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
The following has to do with this forum.
So opinions from will be necessary here as evidence/facts will not be a resource to reference from. Intelligent thought out opinions would be nice.
We have 'life after death experiences' that science basicly claims the human mind has been 'brain washed' to produce such said experiences in various people, religious and nonreligious because of the heavy theistic influences we are suffered to from birth to death.
If the above holds true, then why doesn't the opposite happen which by all facts of our evolution should be happening?
We have been 'brainwashed' about the evolution of this earth and the birth of the stars and how we come from it all for almost as long as theism has been around, especially for the last few centuries.
Why aren't there as many 'life after death' experiences happening to people with visions of how the earth and stars came to be? The same 'brainwashing' logic can be rationally applied to either possibility.
So we have people being 'brainwashed' to two forms of creation and both forms come with 'supposed' supported pictures, writings, etc but only one type of creation is experienced by people having NDE.
Why?
Huh? What the f***...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99578 Sep 11, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? What the f***...
She's trying to say that because some people have thoughts of people in their lives that died before them or some 'white light', that is proof of an already proven false god...

tired old crap...

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