Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since "The Almighty Tzar" has not shown himself to be any brighter than Mr. Potatohead I thought Tater was an apt moniker for him.

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Since "The Almighty Tzar" has not shown himself to be any brighter than Mr. Potatohead I thought Tater was an apt moniker for him.
i still like tater-tot. I'm not sure he has enough starch in his head to be a full tater...

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Biggest scam on earth.
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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Yes
Show it then...

OH THIS SHOULD BE FUNNY....AND A LIE.

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Dark Matter Lost. "Of late Astronomers mapped the motions of hundreds of stars in the Milky Way in order to deduce the amount of dark matter that must be tugging on them from the vicinity of our sun. Their surprising conclusion? There's no dark matter around here".
As the researchers write in a forthcoming paper in the Astrophysical Journal, the stellar motion implies that the stars, all within 13,000 light-years of Earth, are gravitationally attracted by the visible material in our solar system — the sun, planets and surrounding gas and dust — and not by any unseen matter.
"Our calculations show that [dark matter] should have shown up very clearly in our measurements. But it was just not there!"
"One possibility is that dark matter is not the correct explanation for stellar and galactic motions. Perhaps the current understanding of the laws of physics is slightly off".
Just slightly! Doesn’t this illustrate that many secularists are willing to believe in something that cannot be seen, heard, touched, or detected in any way by the most elaborate equipment, yet they 'believe' in dark matter because they need it to explain their concept of the universe. Even on the eve of the CERN accelerator no-find of DM, such a faith supports their absolute; that of understanding all nature without God. And yet many of those same secularists would reject a belief in God on the basis that He cannot be directly observed!

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/07/...

http://www.space.com/15345-dark-matter-altern...

So here we go on another ride, theorists get an idea and publish it long enough it moves out of the category of "hypothesis" to "theory" then into the heads of a believing public, with no scientific basis at all. So now, when the physical evidence comes up missing their faith carries them into more hopeful delusions,(and more grants), now that they got a believing public to swallow the bait. But heck, it's hard work trying to keep a young universe from flying apart.
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And yet many of those same secularists would reject a belief in God on the basis that He cannot be directly observed!
So you admit your god cannot be observed and that your alternative is not scientific and that evidence is not even relevant to your position?

Which would uh, make your entire post irrelevant.

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freddy wrote:
Titties are fun!
Let's see the evidence.

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MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>Where was your mention of time in this nonsense?

The Almighty Tzar wrote, "<quoted text>
Yes I do believe they are all MYTHS.
You believe they are fact.
Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP""

Or are you just trying to change the subject to avoid addressing your obvious mistakes?
No mistake Mikey.
Time is proof of God.

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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>I get along OK my friend.

Try learning 'about' the Bible instead of what's 'in' the Bible.
What about science?

Where did time come from?

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thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>What proof would that be Tzar??
Time

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Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>I went looking for it since Tater is not too likely to post any.

All I could find is some very poor apologetics bringing up some of the worst failures of the Bible. One brought up the Tyre prophesy of all things to bring up, the worst failed prophesy in the whole Bible. Another mentioned the verse that describes the Earth as a flat circle and said it meant the Earth was a sphere, and without any evidence to back up that claim. Another said there were no contradictions in the Bible when I have a website that lists over 400.

So Tater, if you have any evidence it better be amazing.
It's time sub par. You remember don't you. You claim that time could not pop into existence, to do so would require time. a bit of a paradox for you. But we know how time was created. And we have proof that time does in fact exist.

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<quoted text>Tater? who is tater? the Tzar/langoliers/can't even be bothered to recall his other monikers guy? shouldn't he be tater-tot?

have you read the book Zealot, by Reza Aslan? sounds really interesting, our local public radio station did an interview with him today and it sounds like a very informative read.
Idiot. KJV was my old handle.

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Since "The Almighty Tzar" has not shown himself to be any brighter than Mr. Potatohead I thought Tater was an apt moniker for him.
Write that down----- could be the fist time for that. " I thought"

We of course would need to see some sign of brain activity in order to believe this claim.

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What about science?
Where did time come from?
Just a guess but I would say in a simple definition that science came from curiosity, exploration/experimenting, study and understanding of ones surroundings, trial, error and knowledge learned from all the above.

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Dark Matter Lost. "Of late Astronomers mapped the motions of hundreds of stars in the Milky Way in order to deduce the amount of dark matter that must be tugging on them from the vicinity of our sun. Their surprising conclusion? There's no dark matter around here".
As the researchers write in a forthcoming paper in the Astrophysical Journal, the stellar motion implies that the stars, all within 13,000 light-years of Earth, are gravitationally attracted by the visible material in our solar system — the sun, planets and surrounding gas and dust — and not by any unseen matter.
"Our calculations show that [dark matter] should have shown up very clearly in our measurements. But it was just not there!"
"One possibility is that dark matter is not the correct explanation for stellar and galactic motions. Perhaps the current understanding of the laws of physics is slightly off".
Just slightly! DoesnÂ’t this illustrate that many secularists are willing to believe in something that cannot be seen, heard, touched, or detected in any way by the most elaborate equipment, yet they 'believe' in dark matter because they need it to explain their concept of the universe. Even on the eve of the CERN accelerator no-find of DM, such a faith supports their absolute; that of understanding all nature without God. And yet many of those same secularists would reject a belief in God on the basis that He cannot be directly observed!

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/07/...

http://www.space.com/15345-dark-matter-altern...

So here we go on another ride, theorists get an idea and publish it long enough it moves out of the category of "hypothesis" to "theory" then into the heads of a believing public, with no scientific basis at all. So now, when the physical evidence comes up missing their faith carries them into more hopeful delusions,(and more grants), now that they got a believing public to swallow the bait. But heck, it's hard work trying to keep a young universe from flying apart.
Very good article
Thanks for sharing

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What about science?
Where did time come from?
Ignore my last post. I misread yours. Been a long day.

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It's time sub par. You remember don't you. You claim that time could not pop into existence, to do so would require time. a bit of a paradox for you. But we know how time was created. And we have proof that time does in fact exist.
No idiot, no paradox for me. The answer is that we can see only so back in the universe. We really do not know what happened before that time, right now. That may change in the future, and I see that you revealed your prior name. What happened, were you booted for being a fool from this site?

You do not know how time was created. You want to use magic, I am not that desperate yet.
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SBT wrote:
Dark Matter Lost. "Of late Astronomers mapped the motions of hundreds of stars in the Milky Way in order to deduce the amount of dark matter that must be tugging on them from the vicinity of our sun. Their surprising conclusion? There's no dark matter around here".
As the researchers write in a forthcoming paper in the Astrophysical Journal, the stellar motion implies that the stars, all within 13,000 light-years of Earth, are gravitationally attracted by the visible material in our solar system — the sun, planets and surrounding gas and dust — and not by any unseen matter.
"Our calculations show that [dark matter] should have shown up very clearly in our measurements. But it was just not there!"
"One possibility is that dark matter is not the correct explanation for stellar and galactic motions. Perhaps the current understanding of the laws of physics is slightly off".
Just slightly! Doesn’t this illustrate that many secularists are willing to believe in something that cannot be seen, heard, touched, or detected in any way by the most elaborate equipment, yet they 'believe' in dark matter because they need it to explain their concept of the universe. Even on the eve of the CERN accelerator no-find of DM, such a faith supports their absolute; that of understanding all nature without God. And yet many of those same secularists would reject a belief in God on the basis that He cannot be directly observed!
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/07/...
http://www.space.com/15345-dark-matter-altern...
So here we go on another ride, theorists get an idea and publish it long enough it moves out of the category of "hypothesis" to "theory" then into the heads of a believing public, with no scientific basis at all. So now, when the physical evidence comes up missing their faith carries them into more hopeful delusions,(and more grants), now that they got a believing public to swallow the bait. But heck, it's hard work trying to keep a young universe from flying apart.
The belief in a higher being start in the womb. The baby wonders who or what is out there.......After birth it is helpless, its a product of its environment. During childhood it has invisible friends. Its than brainwashed into believing that a higher power created everything and is watching over them..........Religion is nothing more than the brain wanting to believe someone or something is playing with or watching over them. Look around, the primitive human animal will believe anything its told. Let us know when a human that lived 200 years or 20 years ago comes back from the dead.......maybe than it will be plausible.

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What about science?
Where did time come from?
Where did time come from?? There are lots of things we don't know yet, but the list is getting smaller, not larger.

Less and less little holes for you to try and push God into.

Science will get along just fine while you study 'about' the Bible. Every one who argues from your side should know this stuff.

Just because we don't know something now doesn't mean we never will. 111 years ago we didn't know how to fly....66 years later we were on the moon, and our scientific knowledge about hundreds od subjects increased dramatically

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<quoted text>Just a guess but I would say in a simple definition that science came from curiosity, exploration/experimenting, study and understanding of ones surroundings, trial, error and knowledge learned from all the above.
It's not where did science come from it where did Time come from?

Science can't explain it but it does exist.

Nothing can exist with out time.
Nothing can happen with out time.
Nothing can change with out time

Time cannot come into existence with out time. It could not have happened using the laws of physics and science knows it.

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