Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168504 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Universal Conscious Conscience”

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Planet Earth

#99230 Sep 5, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
How is evolution contradictory?
I can assure you Infinite Force you are in error.
Because their is no such thing as an opposite species and nature demonstrates otherwise.

“Universal Conscious Conscience”

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Planet Earth

#99231 Sep 5, 2013
The theory of evolution proposes that all biological reproductive species were the same (compatible) with the term LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor) and over time (not a factor) they became incompatible/opposite biological reproductive species like a human being and a rattle snake.

The theory of evolution is a clear contradictory of how nature works because biological reproductive species are either compatible (same) or incompatible (opposite), not both over billions (compatible and incompatible) of years because nature doesn't contradict its self.

The Theory of Evolution is in violation of the universal law of non-contradiction found in nature!

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#99232 Sep 5, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Nothing can exist with out time.
Nothing can happen with out time.
Nothing can change with out time
If nothing can exist without time then God can't exist without time.
So Time must have come into existence before God.
Thus a universe existed before God.
So why do we need God?

“What U Don't Know U Fear”

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What U Fear U Will Never Know

#99233 Sep 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Yes I suppose atheism would grow as the world learns more and more science. We find that science and naturalism can explain most of what used to be the Bibles territory.
Darwin brought about the theory of evolution in the mid 19th century. Since then atheism has been on the rise greater than any other time in history and still is. Atheists push for evolution. Many scientists are atheist. Coincidence? Maybe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Early_mo...

Now the question is are more scientists becoming atheist from the evidence or are more atheist becoming scientists to push the theory?

If science controls the validity of evolution then the more atheist scientists that there are only strengthens their claim.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#99234 Sep 5, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Darwin brought about the theory of evolution in the mid 19th century. Since then atheism has been on the rise greater than any other time in history and still is. Atheists push for evolution. Many scientists are atheist. Coincidence? Maybe!
Maybe.

Therefore the theory of gravity is atheistic.

In fact go ask your pal (fake) Prof-X who started this whole thread off. He thinks all science is atheism.
replaytime wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Early_mo...
Now the question is are more scientists becoming atheist from the evidence or are more atheist becoming scientists to push the theory?
If science controls the validity of evolution then the more atheist scientists that there are only strengthens their claim.
Yes, it's all a big worldwide atheistic conspiracy, even by the theist scientists who also accept evolution and despite the fact evolution doesn't make any theological claims. Same as EVERY OTHER scientific theory. Duh.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#99235 Sep 5, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
The theory of evolution proposes that all biological reproductive species were the same (compatible) with the term LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor) and over time (not a factor) they became incompatible/opposite biological reproductive species like a human being and a rattle snake.
The theory of evolution is a clear contradictory of how nature works because biological reproductive species are either compatible (same) or incompatible (opposite), not both over billions (compatible and incompatible) of years because nature doesn't contradict its self.
The Theory of Evolution is in violation of the universal law of non-contradiction found in nature!
Oh hey Curtis. I see you're still using English definitions incorrectly again. And science and logic wrong too.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#99236 Sep 5, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Darwin brought about the theory of evolution in the mid 19th century. Since then atheism has been on the rise greater than any other time in history and still is. Atheists push for evolution. Many scientists are atheist. Coincidence? Maybe!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Early_mo...
Now the question is are more scientists becoming atheist from the evidence or are more atheist becoming scientists to push the theory?
If science controls the validity of evolution then the more atheist scientists that there are only strengthens their claim.
Automobiles began to appear around Darwin's time. Since then the use of automobiles has been on the rise. Coincidence? Maybe!

“What U Don't Know U Fear”

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What U Fear U Will Never Know

#99237 Sep 5, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Automobiles began to appear around Darwin's time. Since then the use of automobiles has been on the rise. Coincidence? Maybe!
Really. I believe they were before Darwin. It was 1769, with the creation of steam engined automobiles capable of human transport. In 1806, the first cars powered by an internal combustion engine running on fuel gas appeared and since then just got more improved upon.

Poor comparison.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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#99238 Sep 5, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Really. I believe they were before Darwin. It was 1769, with the creation of steam engined automobiles capable of human transport. In 1806, the first cars powered by an internal combustion engine running on fuel gas appeared and since then just got more improved upon.
I'm aware of the history. The modern automobile is generally attributed to Karl Benz. First car, 1885. So, on average, close enough.
replaytime wrote:
Poor comparison.
So was yours. That was the point.

“What U Don't Know U Fear”

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#99239 Sep 5, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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I'm aware of the history. The modern automobile is generally attributed to Karl Benz. First car, 1885. So, on average, close enough.
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So was yours. That was the point.
If the point of yours was to show mine was a poor comparison, then why are you still pushing your point at the first of this comment? Yeah, that's what I thought. lol

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#99240 Sep 5, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Darwin brought about the theory of evolution in the mid 19th century. Since then atheism has been on the rise greater than any other time in history and still is. Atheists push for evolution. Many scientists are atheist. Coincidence? Maybe!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Early_mo...
Now the question is are more scientists becoming atheist from the evidence or are more atheist becoming scientists to push the theory?
If science controls the validity of evolution then the more atheist scientists that there are only strengthens their claim.
It's not a popularity race or contest. It's simply finding information. Science 'wins' because finding information is what it does.

Your religion has grabbed hold of an ancient book that claims to hold the secrets of the universe....and they ran with it, little suspecting that eventually science would prove it wrong.
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#99241 Sep 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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...eventually science would prove it wrong.
But until it does...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#99242 Sep 5, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
The theory of evolution proposes that all biological reproductive species were the same (compatible) with the term LUCA (Last Universal Common Ancestor) and over time (not a factor) they became incompatible/opposite biological reproductive species like a human being and a rattle snake.
The theory of evolution is a clear contradictory of how nature works because biological reproductive species are either compatible (same) or incompatible (opposite), not both over billions (compatible and incompatible) of years because nature doesn't contradict its self.
The Theory of Evolution is in violation of the universal law of non-contradiction found in nature!
Let me give you some information and see what you think of it.

Just recently (2011) it was found that most non-African people alive today carry a small percentage of Neanderthal genes/blood in their body.

That means that somewhere in our distant past Homo-sapiens (us) and Homo-Neanderthalensis mated and produced fertile offspring.

Now that fact means that we and the Neanderthals are closely related (share a common ancestor), and that fact opens the door to our being related to the long line of other deceased Homo genus that anthropologists/archaeologists have found all over the old world,such as: Homo-heidelbergensis, Homo-erectus, Homo-habilis, etc.

In other words, science is telling us we ARE related to the great apes, and they now have a second line of proof.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#99243 Sep 5, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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But until it does...
It's already proven a bunch of it wrong....where were you??
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#99244 Sep 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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It's already proven a bunch of it wrong....where were you??
Sure, if you say so...

“What U Don't Know U Fear”

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What U Fear U Will Never Know

#99245 Sep 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Let me give you some information and see what you think of it.
Just recently (2011) it was found that most non-African people alive today carry a small percentage of Neanderthal genes/blood in their body.
That means that somewhere in our distant past Homo-sapiens (us) and Homo-Neanderthalensis mated and produced fertile offspring.
Now that fact means that we and the Neanderthals are closely related (share a common ancestor), and that fact opens the door to our being related to the long line of other deceased Homo genus that anthropologists/archaeologists have found all over the old world,such as: Homo-heidelbergensis, Homo-erectus, Homo-habilis, etc.
In other words, science is telling us we ARE related to the great apes, and they now have a second line of proof.
How many generations does DNA last before it is bred out? What type/part of the DNA did they match to support their conclusion?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#99246 Sep 5, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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How many generations does DNA last before it is bred out?
This does not even make sense.

It might last one generation. It might last billions. You share DNA with plants fer crud's sake, but our split with them was WAY back during the early eukaryote days.
replaytime wrote:
What type/part of the DNA did they match to support their conclusion?
Why would this matter when your alternative is Godmagic?
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#99247 Sep 5, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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This does not even make sense.
It might last one generation. It might last billions. You share DNA with plants fer crud's sake, but our split with them was WAY back during the early eukaryote days.
<quoted text>
Why would this matter when your alternative is Godmagic?
LOL, you got schooled...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#99248 Sep 5, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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How many generations does DNA last before it is bred out? What type/part of the DNA did they match to support their conclusion?
Information on this is all over the interwebs.:-)

http://discovermagazine.com/2013/march/14-int...

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/...

http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/neandertha...

http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/neanderta...

Nearly seven billion people inhabit our planet. At least six billion carry the genes of Neandertal ancestors. Inheritance from Neandertals makes up approximately 3% of the genomes of randomly chosen people outside sub-Saharan Africa today (Green et al., 2010; Reich et al., 2010). A back-of-the-envelope calculation shows if we took all of the Neandertal genes from todays human population, we would have enough raw material to make up 180 million Neandertals. John Hawks
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Redding, CA

#99249 Sep 5, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Information on this is all over the...
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