Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171950 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#99043 Aug 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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You now know of one Congratulations!!!
There are for a fact 51% of all scientist are theist.
Here is another theistic scientist, physicist Paul Davies.

This is a short article, in which you will find zero reference to Genesis and plenty to the Big Bang

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Science-Religio...

Davies, as a scientist, of course accepts evolution too, though its not the subject of this article.
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#99044 Aug 30, 2013
Who created the Law of Gravity?

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#99045 Aug 30, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
Who created the Law of Gravity?
"Who" is a presumption.

“Rising”

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Milky Way

#99046 Aug 30, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
Who created the Law of Gravity?
Scientific laws are not created, they are discovered by empirical evidence and defined by calculations.
The universal law of gravitation was calculated by Sir Issac Newton.
But was superseded by general relativity, as calculated by Einstein
and refined by a host of scientists in the wave of that discovery.
This discovery tells us mass warps the fabric of space/time,
and that gravity is the consequence of this.

JBH

Richmond, Canada

#99047 Aug 30, 2013
Is there any difference by making change from Bush that Obama blamed on the Iraq case?
Obama has not done any good of US image but has made it more troublesome.
OBAMA SO FAR, HAS CAUSED EVERYTHING TO BE SO BAD that US is in a condition worse than that of Bush period, since Obama does no change but the same wrong foreign policies as Bush clone-mold.
People never elected a new man but the same and old worsened Bush.

HIS ANY DOING ON SYRIA WILL BE TOO DESTRUCTIVE TO US AND HIMSELF.
HE CAN'T FIND ONE SOUL WHO IS WITH HIM ON HIS VIEW ABOUT SYRIA.

For on thing, Obama's saying of "mission accomplished" indicates his support of what Bush has done. "Mission accomplished" is the enormous US costs and burden of resources wasted uselessly and wrongly in addition to making US bad image on world stage and so many 5000 military lives lost and over 10,000 wounded-being handicapped coming back, as one out of three US suicides is Iraq veterans.

Obama has not done one single thing on the economy.

The US people are suffering because Obama has used a lot of Patriot Act, snooping and spying on US people through big brother suppression of them.

Obama stands against those people who elected and supported him by abusing their civil rights and liberty freedom and working against them in everything. Obama is not doing what they say and want, as the example on Syria where great majority of people don't want to mess Syria, to lie to them to betray their wishes, yet people are also dumping Obama.

It is a false economy as there are lots who can't have anything on work, that at least 60 millions of people cannot feed themselves and families. More than 40 millions people live in the third world standard, with plugged-up toilets, run-down houses with barely any electricity, in New Orleans, East LA, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and so on.

Yet, Obama takes their money to go with companies which go other places, so as not to give them employment.
That is why too many are sad and suffering in US as Obama has destructed them too much.

But, there are just too much rubbish trash from US, who never know and wake up to the awareness, at the same time.

OBAMA IS NO WAY POSSIBLE BECAUSE HE IS FACING THE ENORMOUS stumbling blocks of people against him, and BIG, TURBULENT WINDS PROPELLING against HIM.

Further more, UN ALREADY HAS A BAD AND NEGATIVE IMAGE. UN would be demolished If UN lets Obama violate anything. UN has not yet answered the former case of US with Bush doing wrongly on Iraq war. If US would act alone on Syria, the consequences of UN will be extremely gloomy.
What is the point of having UN as If it is doing all wrong and evil things?
What is the point of having US in UN if US is always breaking the rules and coming up with falsified business, like the chemical weapons subject on Syria?
Unless US is not a country on the planet, where it is going to end up as, that Obama is a one-person show alone, to think according to how he thinks as ?
US is being like former Hitler, as the whole Germany went down because of one man Hitler, that the entire US is going down because of one person Obama doing very badly on Syria alone.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#99048 Aug 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Oh and don't forget your prayer to your god.
The FSM Prayer:
Our spaghetti who are on the stove
Great be your aroma, The sauce is coming, my meal be done, On the stove as it is in the dinning room, Give us some garlic bread and forgive the extra Parmesan as we add more, and lead us not to the bathroom and deliver us from Gods word, I'm not a man.
Stupidity is not an effective counter.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

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Seffner, FL

#99049 Aug 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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So you can't separate jokes from the real world. Makes sense I guess you believe in these three MYTHS.
Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
You're the only one spouting this crap. The rest of us know it's nonsense. But then, that's what you're good at.
spOko

Oakland, CA

#99051 Aug 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The answer is time us a human construct , and it started when we started counting, and not a minute before.
There is a problem with your theory, time existed before humans started counting :-)
youtubeNews

AOL

#99052 Aug 30, 2013
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ISRAEL to give POPE "Custody" of Temple Mount --

http://youtu.be/Qt9kEQB4ti8

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“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#99053 Aug 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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...Ok now really where did time come from?
Better question - how did Jim Croce manage to save some in a bottle?

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#99054 Aug 30, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Better question - how did Jim Croce manage to save some in a bottle?
Actually... Jim pondered what he could do IF he could save time in a bottle.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99055 Aug 30, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Actually... Jim pondered what he could do IF he could save time in a bottle.
and since the record label had the rights to all the songs he wrote, it wasn't even him trying to save time...
spOko

Oakland, CA

#99056 Aug 30, 2013
Physics says you’re an impurity in an otherwise beautiful universe.
We’re almost unfathomably lucky to exist, in almost every conceivable way. Don’t take it the wrong way. You and I, and even the most calming manatee are nothing but impurities in an otherwise beautifully simple but incredibly hostile universe. But even so, I have news for you: It's worse than you think – much worse.

Your existence wasn’t just predicated on amorousness and luck of your ancestors. Had the universe opted to turn up the strength of the electromagnetic force by even a small factor, poof gone! Suddenly stars wouldn’t be able to produce any heavy elements, much less the giant wet rock we’re standing on. Worse, if the universe were only minutely denser than the one we inhabit, it would have collapsed before it began. Worse still, the laws of physics themselves are tirelessly working against us. Ours isn’t just a randomly hostile universe, it's an actively hostile universe.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#99057 Aug 30, 2013
spOko wrote:
Physics says you’re an impurity in an otherwise beautiful universe.
We’re almost unfathomably lucky to exist, in almost every conceivable way. Don’t take it the wrong way. You and I, and even the most calming manatee are nothing but impurities in an otherwise beautifully simple but incredibly hostile universe. But even so, I have news for you: It's worse than you think – much worse.
Your existence wasn’t just predicated on amorousness and luck of your ancestors. Had the universe opted to turn up the strength of the electromagnetic force by even a small factor, poof gone! Suddenly stars wouldn’t be able to produce any heavy elements, much less the giant wet rock we’re standing on. Worse, if the universe were only minutely denser than the one we inhabit, it would have collapsed before it began. Worse still, the laws of physics themselves are tirelessly working against us. Ours isn’t just a randomly hostile universe, it's an actively hostile universe.
one generally gives credit when they copy others' words...
roly poly

Portland, TN

#99058 Aug 30, 2013
spOko wrote:
Physics says you’re an impurity in an otherwise beautiful universe.
We’re almost unfathomably lucky to exist, in almost every conceivable way. Don’t take it the wrong way. You and I, and even the most calming manatee are nothing but impurities in an otherwise beautifully simple but incredibly hostile universe. But even so, I have news for you: It's worse than you think – much worse.
Your existence wasn’t just predicated on amorousness and luck of your ancestors. Had the universe opted to turn up the strength of the electromagnetic force by even a small factor, poof gone! Suddenly stars wouldn’t be able to produce any heavy elements, much less the giant wet rock we’re standing on. Worse, if the universe were only minutely denser than the one we inhabit, it would have collapsed before it began. Worse still, the laws of physics themselves are tirelessly working against us. Ours isn’t just a randomly hostile universe, it's an actively hostile universe.
You think maybe the universe and everything in it evolved to conform to the laws of physics? Could be.

“Rising”

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#99059 Aug 30, 2013
spOko wrote:
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There is a problem with your theory, time existed before humans started counting :-)
Nope, humans started counting in retroactive in light of the hubble constant and WMAP readings by extrapolation of the motion of the universe and looking into the past by observation of the very distant sky. To quote NASA and the top 1% percentile rank of achieving minds.

The WMAP science team has…

... has put the "precision" in "precision cosmology" by reducing the allowed volume of cosmological parameters by a factor in excess of 68,000. The three most highly cited physics and astronomy papers published in the new millennium are WMAP scientific papers--- reflecting WMAP's enormous impact.

…mapped the pattern of tiny fluctuations in the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiation (the oldest light in the universe) and produced the first fine-resolution (0.2 degree) full-sky map of the microwave sky.

…determined the universe to be 13.77 billion years old to within a half percent.

…nailed down the curvature of space to within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean.

…determined that ordinary atoms (also called baryons) make up only 4.6% of the universe.

…completed a census of the universe and finds that dark matter (matter not made up of atoms) is 24.0%
…determined that dark energy, in the form of a cosmological constant, makes up 71.4% of the universe, causing the expansion rate of the universe to speed up.- "Lingering doubts about the existence of dark energy and the composition of the universe dissolved when the WMAP satellite took the most detailed picture ever of the cosmic microwave background (CMB)." - Science Magazine 2003, "Breakthrough of the Year" article
… mapped the polarization of the microwave radiation over the full sky and discovered that the universe was reionized earlier than previously believed.- "WMAP scores on large-scale structure. By measuring the polarization in the CMB it is possible to look at the amplitude of the fluctuations of density in the universe that produced the first galaxies. That is a real breakthrough in our understanding of the origin of structure." - ScienceWatch: "What's Hot in Physics", Simon Mitton, Mar./Apr. 2008.

…detected that the amplitude of the variations in the density of the universe on big scales is slightly larger than smaller scales. This, along with other results, supports "inflation", the idea is that the universe underwent a dramatic period of expansion, growing by more than a trillion trillion fold in less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second. Tiny fluctuations were generated during this expansion that eventually grew to form galaxies.

… determined that the distribution of these fluctuations follows a bell curve with the same properties across the sky, and that there are equal numbers of hot and cold spots in the map. The simplest version of the inflation idea predicted these properties and remarkably, WMAP’s precision measurement of the properties of the fluctuations has confirmed these predictions, in detail.

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/

I suppose you think you above JPL and the boys at Cal Tec, but what you really are ...is lacking the ability to understand it anyway.

“Rising”

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#99060 Aug 30, 2013
spOko wrote:
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There is a problem with your theory, time existed before humans started counting :-)
Determined the universe to be 13.77 billion years old to within a half percent.

If the tree fell in the woods with no one to notice , it hardly even mattered. Make no mistake no time existed with any meaning to anything but the man who understood how to count.
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#99061 Aug 30, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Undeniably a truth you will have to reconcile, or deny. You can choose to deny but you will only be in error, something we have learned to narrow down to a minimum, ranging into billionths of a second over a thousand years.


http://www.nist.gov/pml/general/time/

Realize..The son is shining brightly in your face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =e9dikg4HtxYXX
So let me get this straight you're sticking to the time only exist if you measure it?

Wow you guys never stop to entertain.
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#99062 Aug 30, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>More like stupidity born out of ignorance.

Typical from AM though.......
A-MYTH thinks his watch creates time.

“Rising”

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#99063 Aug 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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A-MYTH thinks his watch creates time.
You could possibly be the dumbest person on the planet. The funniest thing is, that you're so damn proud of it.

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