Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 218808 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#98417 Aug 22, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Everything would have died. A flood of such proportions would have wiped out the planet to an extent that it would have taken another few million years to recuperate.
Few billion, at least.
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Since: Jun 13

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#98418 Aug 22, 2013
Dr_Seuss wrote:
Monkey's our ancestors ? What is wrong with this picture ?
They think that makes them smart.

It's been proven that dogs are much smarter then monkeys.

Yet they want to be monkeys........

Go Figure!
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Since: Jun 13

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#98419 Aug 22, 2013
Justy_unplugged wrote:
Sucks ya have to die to be 'sure'
Sucks that once your dead you will find out.
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#98420 Aug 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Come on, how do we know that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old?
You count the birthday candles on the cake.
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Since: Jun 13

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#98421 Aug 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Well, tell me how you or your compadres can prove the earth is less than 10,000 years ago.
The truth?

“e pluribus unum”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#98422 Aug 22, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Sucks that once your dead you will find out.
When you're dead you don't find out, the living however...do.
Then they discuss what to do with the remains.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#98423 Aug 22, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Sucks that once your dead you will find out.
you don't find out anything when you die....'cuz you are dead. the end of your existence.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#98424 Aug 22, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth?
Verifiable evidence.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#98425 Aug 22, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>
Everything would have died. A flood of such proportions would have wiped out the planet to an extent that it would have taken another few million years to recuperate.
And that doesn't take into account the spectacular amount of greenhouse gasses created by EVERY mote of biomass decaying (with the exception of those on the ark - wink, wink).

from http://www.brynmawr.edu/geology/206/cleare2.h...

The source of the carbon dioxide and methane in reservoirs is rotting and decaying vegetation (St. Louis et. al., 2000). When land is flooded to create a reservoir (Figure 1), the vegetation dies and is no longer able to absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere via photosynthesis (St. Louis et. al., 2000). Instead, those plants decay and the stored organic carbon is converted into methane and carbon dioxide (St. Louis et. al., 2000). Fearnside explains this process:

“…reservoirs become virtual methane factories, with the rise and fall of the water level in the reservoir alternately flooding and submerging large areas of land around the shore; soft green vegetation quickly grows on the exposed mud, only to decompose under aerobic conditions at the bottom of the reservoir when the water rises again. This converts atmospheric carbon dioxide into methane, with a much higher impact on global warming than the CO2 that was removed from the atmosphere when the plants grew”(Fearnside, 2004).

The above describes the creation of a hydroelectric dam reservoir, but the same would hold true for a global flood -- yet obviously on a planetary scale.

The resulting environmental impact of the release of that amount of greenhouse gasses, combined with the LOSS of carbon/methane sinks would sterilize the planet for hundreds of millions of years, I would suspect.

Much less had this happened a mere 4500 years ago.

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Since: Dec 08

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#98426 Aug 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Really idiot?
Why do you say so?
Apologize for being a complete asshat and I will give you the evidence.
But if you don't want to see the evidence then keep on acting like a complete and total moron.
I see...., you are the guardian of the sacred knowledge, the secret of the goo! All cults do claim the sacred knowledge.
Godlust

Chicago, IL

#98427 Aug 22, 2013
Internet Beyotch Slapper wrote:
Endgame question:
Who created the ability for creatures to evolve?
Who? Not a Bible God, thats for sure. The human brain in its current configuration cannot comprehend the "Who" in that endgame question. Heres a hint......cosmos.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#98428 Aug 22, 2013
Godlust wrote:
<quoted text>Who? Not a Bible God, thats for sure. The human brain in its current configuration cannot comprehend the "Who" in that endgame question. Heres a hint......cosmos.
Is it for sure? Or are you completely wrong? We will find out. LMAO!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#98429 Aug 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
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I see...., you are the guardian of the sacred knowledge, the secret of the goo! All cults do claim the sacred knowledge.
Nope, you keep demanding evidence. You can demand things and be an asshat at the same time. So if you want the evidence you know what you have to do.

Of course if you were not a complete moron you could probably find some of it on your own.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#98430 Aug 22, 2013
Oops, typing too fast and somehow I dropped the 't from can't.

So to restate it, you can't demand things and be an asshat at the same time.

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#98431 Aug 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Poor bohart is an idiot at best.
He gets angry when his superstitions beliefs are challenged. I am always happy to supply evidence when requested. Since creationists have none a request for evidence tends to drive them a bit batty.
So your always happy to supply evidence when requested?

Proven Liar!

You can't give evidence of the life giving goo, none exists

Ha,Ha,Ha,

Once again you've proven your worthlessness. I knew you were a lying fool for the goo when you stated some time ago that ,..something that was alive ,then died couldn't come back to life, but something that was never alive could come to life.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#98432 Aug 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
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So your always happy to supply evidence when requested?
Proven Liar!
You can't give evidence of the life giving goo, none exists
Ha,Ha,Ha,
Once again you've proven your worthlessness. I knew you were a lying fool for the goo when you stated some time ago that ,..something that was alive ,then died couldn't come back to life, but something that was never alive could come to life.
Actually it does. Too bad for you that you are such an asshat.

If you won't apologize perhaps someone else will ask.

“Ask Randy From Ballwin”

Level 5

Since: Mar 13

He Is A Sock Know It All

#98433 Aug 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it does. Too bad for you that you are such an asshat.
If you won't apologize perhaps someone else will ask.
And your fallacy is: ad hominem

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#98434 Aug 22, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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And that doesn't take into account the spectacular amount of greenhouse gasses created by EVERY mote of biomass decaying (with the exception of those on the ark - wink, wink).
from http://www.brynmawr.edu/geology/206/cleare2.h...
The source of the carbon dioxide and methane in reservoirs is rotting and decaying vegetation (St. Louis et. al., 2000). When land is flooded to create a reservoir (Figure 1), the vegetation dies and is no longer able to absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere via photosynthesis (St. Louis et. al., 2000). Instead, those plants decay and the stored organic carbon is converted into methane and carbon dioxide (St. Louis et. al., 2000). Fearnside explains this process:
“…reservoirs become virtual methane factories, with the rise and fall of the water level in the reservoir alternately flooding and submerging large areas of land around the shore; soft green vegetation quickly grows on the exposed mud, only to decompose under aerobic conditions at the bottom of the reservoir when the water rises again. This converts atmospheric carbon dioxide into methane, with a much higher impact on global warming than the CO2 that was removed from the atmosphere when the plants grew”(Fearnside, 2004).
The above describes the creation of a hydroelectric dam reservoir, but the same would hold true for a global flood -- yet obviously on a planetary scale.
The resulting environmental impact of the release of that amount of greenhouse gasses, combined with the LOSS of carbon/methane sinks would sterilize the planet for hundreds of millions of years, I would suspect.
Much less had this happened a mere 4500 years ago.
Excellent new information (new to me anyway) against a global flood. Add to all this the complete cessation of oxygen turnover carried out by all plant life that would be destroyed by a global flood. It would take more than 4500 years to recover from all of this.
TIPI

Columbus, OH

#98435 Aug 22, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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The truth?
The oldest living tree is said to have 12000 years of ring information. Could a tree form more than one ring per year in some instances?

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#98436 Aug 22, 2013
TIPI wrote:
<quoted text>The oldest living tree is said to have 12000 years of ring information. Could a tree form more than one ring per year in some instances?
Yes, but a 4500 year old tree with 12,000 rings would be not just unusual, but unheard of.

What species is this?

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