Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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“Darwin was right..of course.”

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Well at least you capitalized God.
Just trying to be nice....while ripping your dogma to shreds .:-)

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Land changes, gets flooded, and leaves aquatic animals stranded in lakes and ponds. Barring recent artificial introduction this is why you'll only get certain animals in certain places.
A new man made lake where fish suddenly appeared...

"There are fish appearing in these lakes as well. Fish eggs cling to the feet and legs of the herons. So as the birds shuttle between old and new lakes, the eggs fall off and hatch."

http://www.npr.org/2012/10/26/163723606/whats...
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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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How do you get from plants to animals?
Not by evolution, that's fer sure. Not the way it happened on Earth, anyway. You DID know that evolution doesn't propose this, right? You DO understand evolution, right? You DO know why this is, right? You HAVE learned all about evolution and will address the actual model rather than creationist fantasies of evolution, right?

No, of course not.

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Nature uses nature to spread life. Take the Grey Herring (or the herring family) that thrive on fresh water fish and frogs ect. They carry a little of those eggs and maybe even very small minnows in their mouth as they fly from pond to pond or pond to lake. When they get there and shove their mouth in the water again some washes out in the water, result is very small minnows or eggs will be put in that water from the mouth of the herrings. I don't have a link for this but I have read about that and also of storms, tornadoes sucking fish and eggs, frogs and eggs out of lakes and ponds as they go over them and then carries them miles away sometimes before they fall back to earth and maybe they end up in a pond or lake that prior had no fish. Google raining frogs.
You got it.
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From the flood.
From many.

Not "The", as that never happened.

Otherwise none of us would be here to talk about it.

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From many.
Not "The", as that never happened.
Otherwise none of us would be here to talk about it.
If the flood actually did happen, then wouldn't all the fresh water fish have died from exposure to salt water?

And how did all the marsupials know that after they got off the boat that they were suppose to go to Australia?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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They are not myths.
Of course they are myths.

How can you prove to me, and the world, that the earth is 10,000 years old or younger?
Using scientific evidence it can be PROVEN much older.

How can you prove to us that Adam and Eve were real?
Using scientific evidence it can be PROVEN they were NOT real.

How can you prove to us that Noah's flood was a real event?
Using scientific evidence Noah's flood can be PROVEN a myth.

How can you prove to us that the 'Tower of Babel' incident occurred?
Using scientific evidence it can be PROVEN a myth.

How can you prove to us that the Exodus happened.
Using scientific evidence it can be PROVEN a myth.

How can you prove to us that Moses was real and that he wrote the Pentateuch?
There is strong scientific evidence that he was not a real person. The evidence says that the Pentateuch was written by at least 3 or 4 different authors and at a much later date then 1400+- BC.

There are proven anachronisms in the Pentateuch.

These anomalies in the Old Testament lead us to believe that Abraham, Lot, and Moses (and others), were not real persons.
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If the flood actually did happen, then wouldn't all the fresh water fish have died from exposure to salt water?
Yup.

And then their remains would have been utterly incinerated. Along with everything else on planet Earth.
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And how did all the marsupials know that after they got off the boat that they were suppose to go to Australia?
Well either it was just lucky that all remaining living species managed to end up being sorted geographically, such as all marsupials ending up on the same continent instead of all ending up being washed up on lots of different countries and islands, OR, all marsupials EVOLVED from kangaroos...

But then that would mean the fundies would have to accept that evolution can and does occur.

Just as they would with the claim we all came from Noah's family.

Just as they would with the claim we all came from Adam and Eve.

In reality though the twisted beggers are just big fans of being REALLY close to their siblings, in such scenarios the human race all dies of cancer before it gets off the ground, but then it's all solved by a liberal application of invisible Jewish magic. Simple really.
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A new man made lake where fish suddenly appeared...
"There are fish appearing in these lakes as well. Fish eggs cling to the feet and legs of the herons. So as the birds shuttle between old and new lakes, the eggs fall off and hatch."
http://www.npr.org/2012/10/26/163723606/whats...
Another viable way too.

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Darwin's claimed macro evolution which means one kind producing another kind.
Not bacteria evolving into bacteria, birds evolved in to birds and if the bird was a finch the NEW SPECIES is still a finch. insects evolving into insects and if it was an ant it's still an ant and if it was a fly its still a fly.
Turning on or off genes is nothing amazing. God put those genes there for animals or insect ect. To adapt to changing environments. It's a little like an electrician wiring the house so you can turn lights on when it gets dark. It's called planning ahead. Intelligent design. Every time a species has been isolated you claim a new species evolves. The fact is EVERY time the DNA has gotten shorter NEVER new DNA just different switches turn on an off and other genes lost for ever because adaptation is no longer needed. As a result these "NEW" species are on the short road to extinction.
Why do you observe these facts and still believe in macro evolution?
And you claim not to be religious.
No, Darwin never claimed one kind makes another.

You cannot claim that since you have never given a proper definition of kind.

It is not our fault if you do not understand evolution. Instead of making stupid statements why don't you try to understand the theory?

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I see all of the tards ran away again.

When you come back here are a few suggestions. Find a working definition for kind, rather than your idiotic proclaiming that ducks are a kind and bacteria are a kind. There must be some measurable characteristic of animals that will tell you whether they are in the same "kind" or not.

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No, Darwin never claimed one kind makes another.
You cannot claim that since you have never given a proper definition of kind.
It is not our fault if you do not understand evolution. Instead of making stupid statements why don't you try to understand the theory?
he would have to admit his cult lied to him....again...
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Monkey's our ancestors ? What is wrong with this picture ?

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Monkey's our ancestors ? What is wrong with this picture ?
no, monkeys also branched off our common ancestor. that is what is wrong with that picture.
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<quoted text>no, monkeys also branched off our common ancestor. that is what is wrong with that picture.
same thing, all connected. A monkey is a monkey, and a human is a human. The truth will come out some day about all of this.

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9. man
8.apes
7.rat like creatures!
6.reptiles
5. amphibians
4. fish
3. worms
2.micro organisms
1. slime that became alive
Who believes this?
how did the worms evolve into worm eating fish?
Again ! who believes this?

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thewordofme wrote:
"We've done the paternity tests, we've traced back the genealogy, and we’re doing all kinds of in-depth testing of the human species. People are apes and the descendants of apes, who were the descendants of rat-like primates, who were the children of reptiles, who were the spawn of amphibians, who were the terrestrial progeny of fish, who came from worms, who were assembled from single-celled microorganisms, who were the products of chemistry. Your daddy was a film of chemical slime on a Hadean rock, and he didn't care about you—he was only obeying the laws of thermodynamics.
You are you not because of some grand design but because of chance, contingency, and selection.--P.Z. Myers
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/So-Alone.aspx
are you the product of chemical slime?

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Again ! who believes this?
Again, most of the Christians in the world.

The U.S. is rather unique for having half of the population believing in creationism.

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are you the product of chemical slime?
The evidence indicates that you are.
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Sucks ya have to die to be 'sure'

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