Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222113 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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mutilate. Point down range.

#98386 Aug 21, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Once again, you are a proven liar
I am pretty sure Subduction Zone is not a Christian fundamentalist.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#98387 Aug 21, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, it is not. the fact that you use the term "missing link" shows you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. and i and many others here have spent time educating you about why the term missing link makes no sense, so why do you keep repeating it? do you like looking like an ignorant fool?
What is the common ancestor?

Do you know the answer...

or do you just know how to call people childish names?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#98388 Aug 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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"How can you prove to me, and the world, that the earth is 10,000 years old or younger?
Using scientific evidence it can be PROVEN much older."
For real? You don't know?
Well, tell me how you or your compadres can prove the earth is less than 10,000 years ago.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#98389 Aug 21, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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What is the common ancestor?
Do you know the answer...
or do you just know how to call people childish names?
the primate that both humans and monkeys evolved from.... research it yourself and you will know the truth.

what childish names did i call anyone? pointing out your proven lies is not calling anyone a name, it is pointing out proven fact.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#98390 Aug 21, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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What is the common ancestor?
Do you know the answer...
or do you just know how to call people childish names?
so explain what you mean by "missing link"...

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#98391 Aug 21, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Once again, you are a proven liar
Really idiot?

Why do you say so?

Apologize for being a complete asshat and I will give you the evidence.

But if you don't want to see the evidence then keep on acting like a complete and total moron.

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#98392 Aug 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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How do you get from plants to animals?
We are not talking a plant like a daffodil turning into an aninal like an ant.

We are talking about a time when eukaryotes were probably single celled and had chloroplasts but also ingested bacteria etc for sustenance. Many bacteria today both have chloroplasts and can survive by predation on other living creatures.

At some point a eukaryote lost the ability to produce chloroplasts but survived anyway by the alternative of predation, something it was already doing anyway.

That is speculative as we dont know for sure but it provides a perfectly plausible pathway consistent with evolution.

Plants and animals today would be the distant descendants of this split in lineage.

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#98393 Aug 21, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Watch this 38 min video.
It's called Evolution vs God:
http://m.youtube.com/watch... #
That was hilarious.

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#98394 Aug 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No, Darwin never claimed one kind makes another.
You cannot claim that since you have never given a proper definition of kind.
It is not our fault if you do not understand evolution. Instead of making stupid statements why don't you try to understand the theory?
I see in your comment you used "kind". Explain what you mean by kind and define it.
Veni Vidi Vici

Riverwood, Australia

#98395 Aug 21, 2013
Burn the witch ! Lol ... I can't believe that educated people STILL take the bible literally . How do creationists explain geology ? Astronomy and movement of the planets? This is almost laughable if it wasn't so serious an issue .

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#98396 Aug 21, 2013
Absence of evidence, or the failure to observe evidence that favors a hypothesis, is evidence against that hypothesis. This is because we are significantly more likely to not see evidence for a hypothesis when it is false than to not see it when it's true - some assertions demand that the universe be screaming with supporting evidence, so when that evidence is not actually observed, it counts against it. The idea is often summarised as "absence of evidence is evidence of absence."

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence is not just a rule of thumb - it is a law of probability theory.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Absence_of_evide...

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#98397 Aug 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Again, most of the Christians in the world.
The U.S. is rather unique for having half of the population believing in creationism.
Again you are only telling halve truths. Yes while many Christians believe in evolution they hold strong that evolution is only possible because God, who created life made evolution possible.

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#98398 Aug 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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The evidence indicates that you are.
You claim that evolution and abiogenesis are separate and that evolution does not say there is not a God that may have created life but in 98.9% of your comments you show that you don't believe in God and that we all came from the same muddy soup(like this one you think we all came from the muddy soup). You talk in two tongues and then expect people to take what you say serious. Can you see why many don't?

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#98399 Aug 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Still clueless. Such a shame.
Sorry bud but you are the one that is clueless this time.

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#98400 Aug 22, 2013
Horned sea monster found washed ashore. It looks like a shark ... or an oarfish. No one has a clue for sure what it is. Hmmmmm. Maybe a new species?

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/horned-sea-mon...

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#98402 Aug 22, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You claim that evolution and abiogenesis are separate and that evolution does not say there is not a God that may have created life but in 98.9% of your comments you show that you don't believe in God and that we all came from the same muddy soup(like this one you think we all came from the muddy soup). You talk in two tongues and then expect people to take what you say serious. Can you see why many don't?
Its not speaking with forked tongue. Logically evolution does not rely on the method of abiogenesis. I think we've established that by now.

But temperamentally we would expect someone who accepts that natural processes could drive evolution would also expect natural processes to have driven abiogenesis.

Most Deists who accept evolution would push the point of intervention by God back further to the setting of the physical constants and the deep structure of the universe, creating a universe where both abiogenesis and evolution could unfold according to natural law. Much smarter dont you think?
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#98403 Aug 22, 2013
WHAT A FOOLISH JOKE IS IT ABOUT Syria?

Take Britain as it if it is Syria then. And if Japanese civilians but not Japanese government invade Britain linking with British rebels inside, to fight in Britain like the current Syria. Then they say as if any chemical weapons would be used (which could come from Japanese terrorist rebels bringing in with British insurgent rebels), yet whether British had also chemical weapons usage is unknown-- as the all these have not been substantially proven, to kill many people, other than the ammunition used on both sides.

As both sides kill people since it is a warfare in Britain, there are outsiders like Isreal and US, that would keep on pushing the issue of chemical weapons usage for getting into Britain for war there. So Isreal and US would rather think their deceit case again to push for another war like Iraq war, to build another biggest embassy and colonial setting ground for reconstruction like what Bush did to Iraq.
That is another example of US neo-Hitler Imperialistic colonialism for regime change to take other country from US public expenses, but would always fail in the case upon people saying, in US evil and bad attempt, besides US losing a lot of more soldiers.

US always has the villain stand of wrongdoing to take others', in this case Britain (as this gives the example of Japanese rebel terrorists (as if were like rebel insurgents to Syria) going to Britain to be with British insurgents) might have been even orchestrated by others to suit US wrongdoing interests with the inciting of Isreal keeping on yelling chemical weapons, so that US might try using war to get its despicable prey again. But its soldiers had never learned the lessons of loss before, beyond US being charged doing war crime in Iraq, that would add up some more war crimes, that US and Isreal would finally go nowhere sooner or later as time moves forward to a closer stand, that the explosion of people of this planet do their say, "Enough is enough with the evil and Bad US that war crime countries have to come to get done with by now."

This example demonstrates the appearance that US and Isreal by making use of Japanese rebels invasion with British renegade insurgent terrorists starting internal warfare, would give rise to US getting in to take Britain.

As an example, it indicates how evil and bad of US by engaging wrongdoings with Isreal in wrongfulness as usual, to attempt to snatch other countries by displaying its rotten Neo-Hitler dictator of fascist colonialism, by talking about the current Syria.

Maybe that is another proceeding of the Project New American Century again.

Isn't that awful and ridiculous that he is by the name of Obama who said he was no Bush, but demonstrates he is no different to, but worse than the other Bush that Obama was talking about, to repeat that Bush, as a Bush clone-follower shadow in doing more than snooping and hacking and abusing liberty rights already, and now with this Syria?
TIPI

Columbus, OH

#98404 Aug 22, 2013
JBH wrote:
WHAT A FOOLISH JOKE IS IT ABOUT Syria?
Take Britain as it if it is Syria then. And if Japanese civilians but not Japanese government invade Britain linking with British rebels inside, to fight in Britain like the current Syria. Then they say as if any chemical weapons would be used (which could come from Japanese terrorist rebels bringing in with British insurgent rebels), yet whether British had also chemical weapons usage is unknown-- as the all these have not been substantially proven, to kill many people, other than the ammunition used on both sides.
As both sides kill people since it is a warfare in Britain, there are outsiders like Isreal and US, that would keep on pushing the issue of chemical weapons usage for getting into Britain for war there. So Isreal and US would rather think their deceit case again to push for another war like Iraq war, to build another biggest embassy and colonial setting ground for reconstruction like what Bush did to Iraq.
That is another example of US neo-Hitler Imperialistic colonialism for regime change to take other country from US public expenses, but would always fail in the case upon people saying, in US evil and bad attempt, besides US losing a lot of more soldiers.
US always has the villain stand of wrongdoing to take others', in this case Britain (as this gives the example of Japanese rebel terrorists (as if were like rebel insurgents to Syria) going to Britain to be with British insurgents) might have been even orchestrated by others to suit US wrongdoing interests with the inciting of Isreal keeping on yelling chemical weapons, so that US might try using war to get its despicable prey again. But its soldiers had never learned the lessons of loss before, beyond US being charged doing war crime in Iraq, that would add up some more war crimes, that US and Isreal would finally go nowhere sooner or later as time moves forward to a closer stand, that the explosion of people of this planet do their say, "Enough is enough with the evil and Bad US that war crime countries have to come to get done with by now."
This example demonstrates the appearance that US and Isreal by making use of Japanese rebels invasion with British renegade insurgent terrorists starting internal warfare, would give rise to US getting in to take Britain.
As an example, it indicates how evil and bad of US by engaging wrongdoings with Isreal in wrongfulness as usual, to attempt to snatch other countries by displaying its rotten Neo-Hitler dictator of fascist colonialism, by talking about the current Syria.
Maybe that is another proceeding of the Project New American Century again.
Isn't that awful and ridiculous that he is by the name of Obama who said he was no Bush, but demonstrates he is no different to, but worse than the other Bush that Obama was talking about, to repeat that Bush, as a Bush clone-follower shadow in doing more than snooping and hacking and abusing liberty rights already, and now with this Syria?
Do you think Obama dropped the ball by not supporting the democratically elected government in Egypt? Many people in England and America do not like their leaders, but they do not support a military strong man who wants to take them out, they simply vote in the next election and hope for the best. What are your thoughts?

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#98405 Aug 22, 2013
TIPI wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think Obama dropped the ball by not supporting the democratically elected government in Egypt? Many people in England and America do not like their leaders, but they do not support a military strong man who wants to take them out, they simply vote in the next election and hope for the best. What are your thoughts?
What if that democratically elected govt is working outside the constitution to destroy any chance an opposition might have had in the next election cycle as well as actively fomenting violence against a religious minority and seeking to disenfranchise them as well as remove them from any positions of responsibility in government?

Still think we should support them?

Every question in the ME is invariably a hornet's nest of complications and what administration has ever NOT dropped the ball dealing with the ME?

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