Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Aug 19, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Isn't that the truth, I've seen story's and alot of them lately , where people have been forced to reiterate what they
actually DID SAY. Because creationists twisted their words into meaning what they wanted. Just as Mary Schweitzer said she was embarrassed to be a christian because of how silly they acted and that they gave Christianity a bad name.
Quote mining and distortion of scientific findings: the stock in trade of creationists.

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It's a paradox for the Big Bang.
God is no excuse, he is the answer.
First 3 words in the bible shows how important time is to the universe.
"we don't know" is not a paradox.

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Most people consider that racist but I found that some on this thread don't believe that calling other races savages or stating they never conceived of something as simple as a sail as racist.
Whole races never conceived of a sail. Or a wheel, or metal, or agriculture. These are not value statements, they are simply facts.

Now, assuming that mental inferiority is the reason they did not conceive of these things would be racist. But we have better explanations. Degree of interconnectedness and the transmission of ideas, the fortune of where one happened to live, even a north south versus and east west constraint have been considered in this question. The reality is, humans of every race for almost the entirely of Homo Sapiens history lived as hunter gatherers without sails, wheels, metals, or agriculture.

Darwin lived in a racist, classist, and sexist world like everyone back then. He and his theory certainly did not invent racism which was also endemic in the Christian population of Europe (and most populations everywhere), for centuries. How about explaining all that before 1860, when biblical creationism was unquestionably the ruling philosophy of Europe?

But you carry on demonising Darwin if it makes you feel better. It makes not one iota difference to the validity of evolution today.

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So what view point of time would you lean towards, Newton or Kant?
What was Kant's viewpoint of time?

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Not what I said. I said Satan is fooling you. He created nothing. He whispers in the ear of science ridicules suggestions.
There is no Satan. Just nutjobs like you.

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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It's a paradox for the Big Bang.
God is no excuse, he is the answer.
First 3 words in the bible shows how important time is to the universe.
The first three words of the Bible are an assumption. The fourth is another.

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LOL
dote\ˈdōt\
intransitive verb
1 : to exhibit mental decline of or like that of old age : be in one's dotage
You're either poorly educated or jealous. Maybe both.

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What evidence do you have that God is false?
"In the beginning..." "... Amen"
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Most of America's presidents have been Christian, if not all of them.
Why do you pick on Palin, because she is a female Christian?
We've had crazier men behind "The Button" who believe just as she does, they just don't tell you.
Aaaaaand THAT's why they can hold high positions.

The idea is that people should keep their religious beliefs (or lack of for that matter) to themselves. If someone wants to discuss their religious preference in public, that's what forums like this one is for. But as soon as a politician starts to babble about God or religion, he's lost my vote.

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Seriously dude, we heard you the first 12 times you posted this. You may stop now, thank you.

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To date up to date in date dates are soon nothing of any means unless you have something to schedule to agendarise it won't do you no good neither in that would time...
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<quoted text>You are a hateful, ignorant, pig. I know all Christians aren't like that, but apparently fundamentalists aren't all Christians. Thank God.
Look in the mirror, you are the hateful one, ignorant too of God and as far as a pig, I really don't know you that well.
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Aaaaaand THAT's why they can hold high positions.
The idea is that people should keep their religious beliefs (or lack of for that matter) to themselves. If someone wants to discuss their religious preference in public, that's what forums like this one is for. But as soon as a politician starts to babble about God or religion, he's lost my vote.
Well, I hate to tell you, but every presidential candidate that ever won the presidency, has claimed Christianity,(except for Kennedy/Catholic).

You've been voting for the losers then?
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Do you have an opposing position? I would love to hear it?
You bet they have opposing positions! lol!

You asked for it...have fun...lol!

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Well, I hate to tell you, but every presidential candidate that ever won the presidency, has claimed Christianity,(except for Kennedy/Catholic).
You've been voting for the losers then?
Except Kennedy. Too funny.

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Well, I hate to tell you, but every presidential candidate that ever won the presidency, has claimed Christianity,(except for Kennedy/Catholic).
You've been voting for the losers then?
But they knew better to mix religion with politics.(less Bush jr, but that's just a case of sheer ingnorance.)

Whatever their official belief, they did not push their belief onto others, and kept it off of the agenda. As a voter and citizen, I've no problem with that. It's people that use religion to bias their views or as a means to drive their decisions publically that scare me - and should scare you as well.
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Do you question other dating methods as well, or just this one?
Dating methods? Sorry, but not at all relevant to the validity of common ancestry. Of course you already knew this, being an expert.

Just curious, if evolution is false, what's the alternative you propose that does a better job of explaining the evidence?
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Aug 19, 2013
 
Chimney1 wrote:
Finally, for all the hoopla, there is no evidence that Schweizer found any intact DNA fragments in the 68 million year old dinosaur bones. Even broken down nucleotides are impressive - but that is what is left after the DNA decay, not before. She also found evidence of some intact protein material...but again, that is not DNA.
Correct. No DNA. And the proteins turned out to be similar to those we find in modern day birds, not really something I would have thought fundies would want to advertise.

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"We've done the paternity tests, we've traced back the genealogy, and were doing all kinds of in-depth testing of the human species. People are apes and the descendants of apes, who were the descendants of rat-like primates, who were the children of reptiles, who were the spawn of amphibians, who were the terrestrial progeny of fish, who came from worms, who were assembled from single-celled microorganisms, who were the products of chemistry. Your daddy was a film of chemical slime on a Hadean rock, and he didn't care about youhe was only obeying the laws of thermodynamics.

You are you not because of some grand design but because of chance, contingency, and selection.--P.Z. Myers

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