Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222920 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#98285 Aug 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
By the way bohart, what scientific laws are violated by abiogenesis?
And it is not an "unproven scientific theory".
By definition all scientific theories are unproven. That includes the theories of gravity. You really don't understand science at all, do you?
Here begins your lies, what is your evidence that abiogenesis happened in the warm sludge pond?

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#98286 Aug 20, 2013
bohart wrote:
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9. man
8.apes
7.rat like creatures!
6.reptiles
5. amphibians
4. fish
3. worms
2.micro organisms
1. slime that became alive
Who believes this?
how did the worms evolve into worm eating fish?
Again, which of you people believe this?

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#98287 Aug 20, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
Sucking zone is right about one thing, to believe in these myths is idiocy

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Everett, WA

#98288 Aug 20, 2013
bohart wrote:
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" We were never worms , but we had a worm like ancestor"? did you really type this ? Did you attend the Bill Clinton class on evasions and lying. DNA is a code, a language, an information storage mechanism, there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information.
As for life creating itself, you have all of humanities acquired scientific knowledge that says it can't happen.
That's the evidence against your myth.
Yes you idiot. I was never a worm. You were never a worm. We were born human beings. Is that such a hard concept for you to understand?

Second, yes, we had a wormlike ancestor. A moron such as you would look at early chordata and call them worms. They weren't, but we know your mental level.

Nowhere in mans acquired scientific knowledge does it say that it cannot happen. I know that you misunderstand a lot of that knowledge. But it does not say that anywhere.

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Everett, WA

#98289 Aug 20, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Here begins your lies, what is your evidence that abiogenesis happened in the warm sludge pond?
I didn't lie idiot. I said that you were wrong. You claimed you had evidence that it was impossible. I ordered you to substantiate your claim.

How can a demand that an idiot (this means you) substantiate his claim be a lie?

So come on moron, put up or shut up.

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Everett, WA

#98290 Aug 20, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Again, which of you people believe this?
Most of the Christians in the world for one small group.

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Everett, WA

#98291 Aug 20, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Sucking zone is right about one thing, to believe in these myths is idiocy
blowfart has no clue, but when has he.

“It Is What It Is”

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#98292 Aug 20, 2013
Suck zone and blow fart?!?!?! You two are getting kinky! Just go get a room.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#98293 Aug 20, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
You really are nuts. I don't believe you can read anything and come up with anything intelligent. That is no myth.

Do you really think plants evolved into herbivores (those are animals that eat plants, just so you know)? That is Be-Tzar.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#98294 Aug 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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blowfart has no clue, but when has he.
Looks like you have a critic. Wonder who that could be? Think about it.

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#98295 Aug 20, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
Suck zone and blow fart?!?!?! You two are getting kinky! Just go get a room.
Poor bohart is an idiot at best.

He gets angry when his superstitions beliefs are challenged. I am always happy to supply evidence when requested. Since creationists have none a request for evidence tends to drive them a bit batty.

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Everett, WA

#98296 Aug 20, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Looks like you have a critic. Wonder who that could be? Think about it.
Not too much thought is needed.

“It is what it is”

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#98297 Aug 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Not too much thought is needed.
LOL!! Let me guess the paranoid Dan the stalker thinks I must be bohart too? Playing that card is getting old. Besides bohart has been around since 2008, about 4 1/2 years before I even started coning here. But I think it is funny he thinks when someone new comes in the room it must be me.

Paranoia: noun;
1. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.

2. baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others

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#98298 Aug 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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LOL!! Let me guess the paranoid Dan the stalker thinks I must be bohart too? Playing that card is getting old. Besides bohart has been around since 2008, about 4 1/2 years before I even started coning here. But I think it is funny he thinks when someone new comes in the room it must be me.
Paranoia: noun;
1. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.
2. baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others
What a tard.

“It is what it is”

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#98299 Aug 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What a tard.
Oh I am a tard for calling him on his BS?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#98300 Aug 20, 2013
“In the entire first Christian century Jesus is not mentioned by a single Greek or roman scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! Zip references.”
Dr. Bart Ehrman, Professor of Religious Studies, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

******

"Philo, a prolific Jewish writer who lived from 20 BCE to 50 CE, wrote extensively about the political and theological movements throughout the Mediterranean, and his views foreshadowed Christian theology, yet he never once wrote anything about Jesus. Not only this, but he actually wrote about political conflicts between the Jews and Pontius Pilate in Judea."

“ad victoriam”

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arte et marte

#98301 Aug 20, 2013
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Correct, but it does not answer the question. I didn't know either until I read a story about a new lake that had no fish, until one day when suddenly they started to appear.
Well they don't just sprout out of dirt. Are you asking where the first ones came from , because then you are asking the mystery of life.
SEEK TRUTH

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#98302 Aug 21, 2013
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WC !

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#98303 Aug 21, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>You really are nuts. I don't believe you can read anything and come up with anything intelligent. That is no myth.
Do you really think plants evolved into herbivores (those are animals that eat plants, just so you know)? That is Be-Tzar.
Its probably correct. Since plants and animals share a eukaryote ancestor and that ancestor probably had chloroplasts and could photosynthesise then at least technically animals would have evolved from plants! But its not like a daffodil suddenly sprouted a mouth and legs.

“ad victoriam”

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arte et marte

#98304 Aug 21, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Its probably correct. Since plants and animals share a eukaryote ancestor and that ancestor probably had chloroplasts and could photosynthesise then at least technically animals would have evolved from plants! But its not like a daffodil suddenly sprouted a mouth and legs.
That analogy hold true as much as saying,
Bicycles have wheels with spokes, the space shuttle had wheels with spokes. The space shuttle evolved out of a bicycle.

The main flaw is that we don't know that plants evolved before animal life, and the evidence suggests that animal life came before plants. A type of seaweed may precede animal life , but seaweed isn't really a plant. It's better to say photosynthesis came before
cellular respiration. But for what we relate to as being plant and animal life most likely evolved somewhat together.

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