Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Aug 18, 2013
 
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Does Evolution contradict the Bible?
Is it possible to believe in evolution and still be a Christian? If being a Christian means believing that the Bible is the authentic, trustworthy Word of God and that Christ is our Creator and Savior, the answer is “No.” One cannot believe these things and also believe in evolution as the explanation for the origin of life on our earth as we know it.
Yes, if you have false beliefs then evolution may debunk them. But that is not evolution's fault. That is your fault. Worldwide most Christians accept evolution. You can believe whatever you want, you can believe that 2 + 2 = 5 or whatever other nonsense that you want to believe. Just don't ask others to take you too seriously or get offended when they laugh at you.

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So what view point of time would you lean towards, Newton or Kant?
I don't think either would have very much to say about this subject.

Astronomy had barely moved Earth out of the center of the universe at Newton's time and Kant was a philosopher who probably knew very little physics if any.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Incline just a slight tilt yeah and to keep it all in...
To still be speaking...peaking through the thickness of ill(s) I like matter too much having to top it all the time...who really started that Rumor?
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Such a cruel at times...
Tinka, how very nice to hear from you again. How are you?

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I don't think either would have very much to say about this subject.
Astronomy had barely moved Earth out of the center of the universe at Newton's time and Kant was a philosopher who probably knew very little physics if any.
Hey Sub, what is all this I hear about dinosaur collagen and soft tissue? Can you explain or point me towards some scientific links about it?

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Hey Sub, what is all this I hear about dinosaur collagen and soft tissue? Can you explain or point me towards some scientific links about it?
There was a T-Rex found that after treating with acid they found what looked like remnants of connective tissue. At one point they thought they may have found evidence of blood cells too, but that did not pan out. There are traces of DNA too, if I remember right. Here is an article about it:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/...

This article makes a good point. They had to break the bone open for transit. It was too large and too fragile and in too remote of a location to transport whole. Terrestrial fossils are very rarely if ever broken open since they are exceedingly rare. No scientist seems to think that this is a serious problem. It is very interesting but that is all.
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Don't know your boss or what his problems are, that doesn't mean all of God's people are like him.
It's easy to get befriended by the wrong crowd,(the crowd you claim as friends).
Whether you live in their world or my world, you will be living with spirits... it's just the question of which kind of spirits you want to live with..the ones with unconditional love in heaven or the ones with unconditional hate in hell.
You only get two (2) choices in life, that's it.
Like I said, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.
Spirits? You gotta be kidding. LOL
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I don't think either would have very much to say about this subject.
Astronomy had barely moved Earth out of the center of the universe at Newton's time and Kant was a philosopher who probably knew very little physics if any.
That may be, however that was not an answer to the question proposed to you.

So, I am left with the following assumptions,

Either you have not studied Newton or Kant and may get exposed in a lack of understanding, thus your desire to change how the argument is framed...

or,

You are only interested in attacking your opposition and their viewpoint...

You want to provide anything more for me to consider?

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Aug 18, 2013
 
And an article from a professional journal:

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/316/5822/27...

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I tend not to notice the young ones for obvious reasons but I couldn't help noticing a young lady in her Chivas de Guadalujara jersey at Mass this morning. I wonder if she knows.
http://www.soccerzonevegas.com/media/catalog/...
I noticed them between the ages of 18 and up, but I don't really have much in common with those much below 30. I still enjoy the view.

She probably knows. It seems to be a badge of honor these days.

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That may be, however that was not an answer to the question proposed to you.
So, I am left with the following assumptions,
Either you have not studied Newton or Kant and may get exposed in a lack of understanding, thus your desire to change how the argument is framed...
or,
You are only interested in attacking your opposition and their viewpoint...
You want to provide anything more for me to consider?
I have not studied Kant. I have studied Newton's physics. He did much more than that, oops, I have also learned some calculus which he discovered too.

And I did not try to change how the argument, and actually it was not an argument it was a question. anyway how the question was formed. I tried to answer it the best I could.

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So EXPERT, why ask such an inane question?

It has nothing to do with evolution. Since neither of the two had any real knowledge of the Big Bang it was a rather pointless question.
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Hey Sub, what is all this I hear about dinosaur collagen and soft tissue? Can you explain or point me towards some scientific links about it?
RED FLAG WARNING!

Before you go jumping on the subwayzone to never never land...notice the source he provided you was over a decade and a half old...Hmmm?

Now a lesson in deductive reasoning...

You have an individual that is looking to justify their position and is not aware of a popular review that took place over 13yrs ago..so ask yourself why would this person not be aware?

May it reveal youth and inexperience? Ignorance?

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Hey Sub, what is all this I hear about dinosaur collagen and soft tissue? Can you explain or point me towards some scientific links about it?
Try a google search using this term: annurev-earth-final-published. It will take you to a pdf file of Mary Higby Schweitzer's annual review article Soft Tissue Preservation in Terrestrial Mesozoic Vertebrates. This should get you started. I am reading it now myself.

Sorry for the round about way, but I couldn't get a direct link for some reason. Must be something I am not doing right with Research Gate.

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And an article from a professional journal:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/316/5822/27...
Thanks. Here I thought it was all a bunch of horse hockey.

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EXPERT wrote:
RED FLAG WARNING!
Before you go jumping on the subwayzone to never never land...notice the source he provided you was over a decade and a half old...Hmmm?
Now a lesson in deductive reasoning...
You have an individual that is looking to justify their position and is not aware of a popular review that took place over 13yrs ago..so ask yourself why would this person not be aware?
May it reveal youth and inexperience? Ignorance?
Yeah, you gotta watch out for that National Geographic. They'll print any old BS.

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RED FLAG WARNING!
Before you go jumping on the subwayzone to never never land...notice the source he provided you was over a decade and a half old...Hmmm?
Now a lesson in deductive reasoning...
You have an individual that is looking to justify their position and is not aware of a popular review that took place over 13yrs ago..so ask yourself why would this person not be aware?
May it reveal youth and inexperience? Ignorance?
What are you babbling about?

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RED FLAG WARNING!
Before you go jumping on the subwayzone to never never land...notice the source he provided you was over a decade and a half old...Hmmm?
Now a lesson in deductive reasoning...
You have an individual that is looking to justify their position and is not aware of a popular review that took place over 13yrs ago..so ask yourself why would this person not be aware?
May it reveal youth and inexperience? Ignorance?
It is an old story.

If you have a better more recent one please supply it.

Please use valid sources.

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RED FLAG WARNING!
Before you go jumping on the subwayzone to never never land...notice the source he provided you was over a decade and a half old...Hmmm?
Now a lesson in deductive reasoning...
You have an individual that is looking to justify their position and is not aware of a popular review that took place over 13yrs ago..so ask yourself why would this person not be aware?
May it reveal youth and inexperience? Ignorance?
By the way. How good are your math skills.

What is 13 - 5 ?

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Yeah, you gotta watch out for that National Geographic. They'll print any old BS.
Not the National Geographic. They are definitely a pro-science biased publication. Are you sure you can trust them?
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By the way. How good are your math skills.
What is 13 - 5 ?
Well, I know what the half-life of DNA is, that may be a cause of concern?

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