Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223288 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#96376 Aug 7, 2013
Next lie, a young lady who does not understand homology is used as an expert. She gave a bad example.

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#96377 Aug 7, 2013
So much dishonesty. About 5:20 an uninformed opinion by a geology student is used. I am sure this goes on and on. Statements of evidence by uninformed people cannot be used for or against an argument. All you can do is to point out that these people are uninformed.

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#96378 Aug 7, 2013
And of course Ray continues to lie by calling evolution a "change of kinds". Since he cannot define "Kinds" correctly it is find to say that evolution never claims a change of kinds.

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#96379 Aug 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, that is what I tried to say. He has been caught doing this in his own videos in the past. Does anyone doubt that he would lie this way again?
It is pretty obvious when the voice of the narrator ask for an example of evolution and she responds with something like "between six and seven million years ago." Wonder what the real question was.

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#96380 Aug 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, the scattering takes place once the light hits our atmosphere. That does not concern us yet. What is important is that there are different frequencies of light and those frequencies have different relative strengths.
You want to read something really weird? It just bugs me to no end though it has nothing to do with evolution but it makes me wonder all the time.

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#96381 Aug 7, 2013
And again, Comfort calls evolution a change of kinds @ 5:35. The reason that this is a lie is that he has debated this topic many times and he has been corrected. Once you know better if you continue to use an incorrect term that is a lie.

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#96382 Aug 7, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>It is pretty obvious when the voice of the narrator ask for an example of evolution and she responds with something like "between six and seven million years ago." Wonder what the real question was.
Yep, a dead give away.

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#96383 Aug 7, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You want to read something really weird? It just bugs me to no end though it has nothing to do with evolution but it makes me wonder all the time.
What?

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#96384 Aug 7, 2013
And again, at 6;25 after being given an example of evolution he is back to his "change of kinds" lie.

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#96385 Aug 7, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The reason that evolution, that can't be proven bothers me, is because it take people away from God.
The majority of people that believe in evolution become atheist.
We don't need more people perishing than we already have.
People need help and Godly information, not something that's going to pull them away from Him.
Tell me, what good does it do people to believe that they came from fish or apes when no one on earth can prove it, but if they believe your 'gods'(scientist) and they lose their salvation, what good does that do you?
Why do you wish for people to perish, is the question I have for you?
Nothing in science can be proven in the sense you mean as an absolute. Yet you still use the computer, drive a car, eat food produced through modern science. Evolution is the best scientific answer to the evidence of the development and diversity of life that we have. It explains and predicts and provides the basis of modern biology. The same biology that drives medicine, agriculture, and conservation among other endeavors.

It doesn't drive people from God. It doesn't cause atheism. It is being taught in high schools, colleges and universities all across this country. Where are the throngs of atheists that you claim are being generated?

So you are saying that our best understanding of the facts should be concealed so that your view of religion can be the only one supplied to people? Only doing this can save them? If a person has a question about the biblical flood, the answer should be that they just accept the flood as real even though there is no evidence for it? How is that honest? How is that praising God? Are you saying your version of Christianity is so weak that you have to hide from facts?

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#96386 Aug 7, 2013
At 6:38 he asks an unidentified student how long something would take, he estimated a couple of million years, and then Ray asked "How is that observable" the student said "its not". Then the cutaway. We don't know if he finished or not. He could have pointed out that it may be observable in the fossil record. He could have pointed out that it may be observable in DNA. At any rate another bit of dishonesty by Ray.

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#96387 Aug 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What?
Ok now you can call me weird but,,,,,,,,
For the last 19 years I can be doing anything. Working, playing, fishing, hunting, you name it and I can look at a clock out of the blue, for no reason and I see 11:11 or 1:11 at least two-three times just about every day. I am thinking what the hell! Now if that is not weird enough for ya here is more. I have woke up many times for no reason and it will be 1:11 am. My birthdate year and day =11 plus month, day and last digit of year =11. I used to live at 111 --- street. I worked at a place for 9 years after 2 years of training(9+2=11) which address happened to be 1111 ------ Ave. When I lost my 2 fingers, yep that date happened to be the 11th day in Nov or 11/11. My Mom was born 10-1-38 now 10+1=11, 3+8=11, She died 1/2010(1+10=11). My oldest daughter was born 5/24 add em up =11. My youngest daughter was born 5/27 which =14 but 3 years later so minus the 3 years between her sister = 11 and minus the 3 days between her sister =11. My ex-wife was born 9/2 add em up =11. Had surgery on my knee 8/3/11 (8+3=11 plus 11 in the year). In my family there were 5 boys and 4 girls plus 2 parents = 11. There are more that I could factor in there but you get the picture lol. Too many 1ís and/or 11ís are starting to bug me lol.
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#96388 Aug 7, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing in science can be proven in the sense you mean as an absolute. Yet you still use the computer, drive a car, eat food produced through modern science. Evolution is the best scientific answer to the evidence of the development and diversity of life that we have. It explains and predicts and provides the basis of modern biology. The same biology that drives medicine, agriculture, and conservation among other endeavors.
It doesn't drive people from God. It doesn't cause atheism. It is being taught in high schools, colleges and universities all across this country. Where are the throngs of atheists that you claim are being generated?
So you are saying that our best understanding of the facts should be concealed so that your view of religion can be the only one supplied to people? Only doing this can save them? If a person has a question about the biblical flood, the answer should be that they just accept the flood as real even though there is no evidence for it? How is that honest? How is that praising God? Are you saying your version of Christianity is so weak that you have to hide from facts?
but there are no facts that fish and apes became humans

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#96389 Aug 7, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Ok now you can call me weird but,,,,,,,,
For the last 19 years I can be doing anything. Working, playing, fishing, hunting, you name it and I can look at a clock out of the blue, for no reason and I see 11:11 or 1:11 at least two-three times just about every day. I am thinking what the hell! Now if that is not weird enough for ya here is more. I have woke up many times for no reason and it will be 1:11 am. My birthdate year and day =11 plus month, day and last digit of year =11. I used to live at 111 --- street. I worked at a place for 9 years after 2 years of training(9+2=11) which address happened to be 1111 ------ Ave. When I lost my 2 fingers, yep that date happened to be the 11th day in Nov or 11/11. My Mom was born 10-1-38 now 10+1=11, 3+8=11, She died 1/2010(1+10=11). My oldest daughter was born 5/24 add em up =11. My youngest daughter was born 5/27 which =14 but 3 years later so minus the 3 years between her sister = 11 and minus the 3 days between her sister =11. My ex-wife was born 9/2 add em up =11. Had surgery on my knee 8/3/11 (8+3=11 plus 11 in the year). In my family there were 5 boys and 4 girls plus 2 parents = 11. There are more that I could factor in there but you get the picture lol. Too many 1ís and/or 11ís are starting to bug me lol.
A lot of that is what is called confirmation bias. On the dates adding up to 11. There are many dates that don't add up to 11 no matter how you manipulate the numbers. Please note that you manipulated the numbers several different ways to get the 11's.

So it may seem weird, but I would not put too much stock into it.

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#96390 Aug 7, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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but there are no facts that fish and apes became humans
What do you mean by that statement?

It does not really make sense.

Now there is plenty of evidence that we are the ultimate descendants of certain fish. If you get enough evidence to support an idea sooner or later you call that idea a fact. That is why so many scientists talk about the fact of evolution.

The idea that something will fall is just a theory too. If someone held a hammer over your head and threatened to drop it would you tell him "that is only a theory"? Sooner or later the evidence that supports a theory gets so strong that people treat it as a fact.

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#96391 Aug 7, 2013
And I have had enough spot the lies from Ray for tonight.

I may watch it again, but I think my point was made that the video is chock full of lies.

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#96392 Aug 7, 2013
SubZone I guess all my 1's and/or 11's were to much for you lol. It really bugs the crap out of me let me tell ya.

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#96393 Aug 7, 2013
Okay, I can't help myself. I am not counting anymore but he is given several examples of evolution and then Ray claims "that is not Darwinian evolution". Worst of all the idiot is maintaining that claim when people if use "Darwin's Finches" as examples of evolution.

Seriously! How dumb can you be. The birds that perhaps had the greatest impact on Darwin are not examples of Darwinian evolution according to Ray Comfort.

Buwaa ha ha!!

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#96394 Aug 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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A lot of that is what is called confirmation bias. On the dates adding up to 11. There are many dates that don't add up to 11 no matter how you manipulate the numbers. Please note that you manipulated the numbers several different ways to get the 11's.
So it may seem weird, but I would not put too much stock into it.
Many fall on or are 1 or 11 to begin with and with the others it is just simple mathematics of addition or subtraction of a number that is already there with in the date. I don't think/know if it is confirmation bias. I don't have an answer but it bugs me for so many 1's or 11's to keep popping up. With that said I think I am off to get some shut eye.

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#96396 Aug 7, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Many fall on or are 1 or 11 to begin with and with the others it is just simple mathematics of addition or subtraction of a number that is already there with in the date. I don't think/know if it is confirmation bias. I don't have an answer but it bugs me for so many 1's or 11's to keep popping up. With that said I think I am off to get some shut eye.
Didn't you choose different locations for your numbers when you added. And in one case you added a 3 and an 8.

Again, it is simply confirmation bias. You conveniently forget the many dates that you can't do this to.

Like I said, don't put too much faith in this.

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