Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#95967 Aug 2, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>If Rumsfeld were "innocent" why did the State Department whisk him out of France under cover of darkness on a CIA jet, through Germany and back to the US post haste. As for it being bunk, there are arrest warrants for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. waiting in Den Hague.
Because there were large crowds chanting hate to him calling him a murderer and torturer etc. They probably felt he was in danger. If you read the stories you can read the bull is piled on high.

Anti-torture protesters in France believe

unconfirmed reports coming from Paris suggest.

Status

After the complaint was dismissed in November 2007, CCR appealed the decision to the General Prosecutor of Paris, who, on February 27, 2008, dismissed it arguing that Rumsfeld was immune for acts he accomplished while in office.

http://www.ccrjustice.org/ourcases/current-ca...
MIDutch

Clinton Township, MI

#95968 Aug 2, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Because there were large crowds chanting hate to him calling him a murderer and torturer etc. They probably felt he was in danger. If you read the stories you can read the bull is piled on high.
Anti-torture protesters in France believe
unconfirmed reports coming from Paris suggest.
Status
After the complaint was dismissed in November 2007, CCR appealed the decision to the General Prosecutor of Paris, who, on February 27, 2008, dismissed it arguing that Rumsfeld was immune for acts he accomplished while in office.
http://www.ccrjustice.org/ourcases/current-ca...
I actually read the Dutch reports of the incident (which I trust a whole lot more than your sources).
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#95969 Aug 2, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet you can worship in whatever church you choose to.
You can read whatever newspapers you want to.
You can travel all over the country with NO restrictions.
You can get any education your intelligence and intellect is capable of.
You can make as much money as your skills and aptitude will allow.
You can join any political party you choose to.
You can (almost) marry anyone you want to.
You can, dependent on your income level, live wherever you want.
You can talk to anyone you want.
You can own a mini-arsenal if you want.
You can do pretty much do anything that want to within the legal, social and cultural constraints of our society.
NONE of that has changed under Obama.
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WHEN THE WORLD MOVES ON AND MORE POPULATIONS GROW, THERE WILL BE MORE ATHEISTS growing, yet the people who are still religious will also be there existing, that religions will never disappear.
The conflicts based on religion differences are there, as whether are substantial in current times, will be based on rules, such as universal rules.
This calls concerning the aspects as you said it--would there be someone new like Obama by doing some new things?
That is it-- Obama changes nothing since Bush stated that Patriot Act, yet Obama would do more of it and expanded snooping programs as the tyrant Obama. He did more of hacking and false acts more than Bush and Cheney. Therefore, one can't distinguish who is the worse evil, Bush or Obama.
As Bush is wanted by world public as a war criminal, however, Obama has NOT BEEN CHARGED AS SUCH YET.
That says Obama is the worst of all time because he over-does more than Bush on Patriot act not started by him, by acting as the tyrant as neo-Hitler of using repressive surveillance by massively destructing of civil liberty at all time high, against basic human rights needs of US public.
He is no progressive man thus as same as another neo-con like Bush , by demonstrating not going forward but backward in his snooping acts so far, as the worst of all time .

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#95970 Aug 2, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>I actually read the Dutch reports of the incident (which I trust a whole lot more than your sources).
Well I would like to see your sources saying the French have actually charged him or anyone else. Of course you do know none of it would stick though and why he wasn't charged.
No one has the power to lobby the UN to charge a high ranking official who has essentially diplomatic immunity.
But I do know Chavez and Iran charged all manner of statesmen from the US , though I see little possibility of them actually being acted on.
Hulu

Metamora, IL

#95972 Aug 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so no, you could not put those two ideas together...
this may be futile, but i should at least try...
at one time, even a further advanced civilization than us, if there are indeed civilizations more advanced than us, would have at one time probably used radio waves.(electromagnetic waves) those waves take millions of years to cross the expanse of interstellar space, so we might be able to pick up the broadcasts sent out millions of years ago by those beings...
Heres an idea.....its hard to grasp woody but, human technology and the human mind, specifically comprehension is an inadquate devise for interstellular contact of the intelligent kind. Ok, lets explain it in terms...on a human level ...s l o w l y.....Human technology in its past and present forms will never contact anone other than other humans ...like the ones on the ISP. Any questions? Humans must discover the alien code ....and still "they" may not want to contact such a prmitive civilization.

“Robert Stevens”

Level 1

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#95973 Aug 2, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! So you believe complete ignorance of a subject being "debated" is a valid way to argue??? Too funny!
You must think Don Rickles was a genius. I disagree, buy using the tone you used, you lost the debate period. I know the other person did not start that tone. You are just a hot head. It is no wonder you (have) to go online to chat.
drinK the Hive

New York, NY

#95974 Aug 2, 2013
Zero Gravity Computer Chair Dude - What Would We Be Without Them?...

http://www.sofabfurniture.com/images/T/OS-400...

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#95975 Aug 2, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>I actually read the Dutch reports of the incident (which I trust a whole lot more than your sources).
I Am still waiting for said incriminating evidence.
But I'm not into long waits...mostly.
Puttum up

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#95976 Aug 2, 2013
MIDutch wrote:
<quoted text>Uh, the NSA was formed out of the Patriot Act under George WMD Bush. Bush also gutted habeas corpus, the Geneva convention and vast tracts of international law, and is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of US citizens and tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of Iraqi citizens.
If Obama is the worst tyrant of all time, what does that make Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. who are UNABLE to step outside of the borders of the United States for fear of being arrested for crimes against humanity.(FYI they almost got Rumsfeld in France in 2007).
The NSA was formed in 1952
SEEK TRUTH

Spring, TX

#95977 Aug 2, 2013
Matthew 21: Jesus Cleanses the Temple
12And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all those who were buying and selling in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves. 13And He said to them, "It is written,'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN."…
SEEK TRUTH

Spring, TX

#95978 Aug 2, 2013
1 Kings 19

English Standard Version (ESV)
Elijah Flees Jezebel

19 Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, and how he had killed all the prophets with the sword. 2 Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying,“So may the gods do to me and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of one of them by this time tomorrow.” 3 Then he was afraid, and he arose and

ran for his life and came to Beersheba, which belongs to Judah, and left his servant there.

4 But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness and came and sat down under a broom tree. And he asked that he might die, saying,“It is enough; now, O Lord, take away my life, for I am no better than my fathers.” 5 And he lay down and slept under a broom tree. And behold, an angel touched him and said to him,“Arise and eat.”
SEEK TRUTH

Spring, TX

#95979 Aug 2, 2013
Revelation 12 The Woman Persecuted

13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted

the woman who gave birth to the MALE Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. 15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood.

16 But the EARTH helped the woman,(EARTHQUAKES)

and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman,

and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of GOD AND have the testimony of JESUS Christ.
SEEK TRUTH

Spring, TX

#95981 Aug 3, 2013
2 Corinthians 12 Paul’s Concern for the Corinthians

11 I have made a fool of myself, but you drove me to it. I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the “super-apostles,”[a] even though I am nothing. 12 I persevered in demonstrating among you the marks of a true apostle, including signs, wonders and miracles. 13 How were you inferior to the other churches,

except that I was never a burden to you? Forgive me this wrong!
SEEK TRUTH

Spring, TX

#95982 Aug 3, 2013
THE EARTH........

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#95984 Aug 3, 2013
The world is empty without God.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#95985 Aug 3, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I Am still waiting for said incriminating evidence.
But I'm not into long waits...mostly.
Puttum up
http://lyme.startpagina.nl/prikbord/10745946/...
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#95986 Aug 3, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i meant there was no explosion.
how hard is that to understand.
there was no reason for you to bring in the topic of stars exploding or nuclear fusion as those have nothing to do with the expansion of the universe.
again, you clearly do not have an inkling of the topic you are attempting to talk about...
"i meant there was no explosion."

About 15 billion years ago a tremendous explosion started the expansion of the universe. This explosion is known as the Big Bang

http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

Astronomers Detect Most Powerful Explosion Since Big Bang

18 May 1998

The energy released in a cosmic gamma-rayburst detected in December 1997 is the most energy ever detected from an explosion in theUniverse, perhaps making it the most powerful explosion since the creation of the Universe in the Big Bang.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/ne...

big bang

(bg)
The explosion of an extremely small, hot, and dense body of matter that, according to some cosmological theories, gave rise to the universe between 12 and 20 billion years ago.

Most astronomers now believe that the universe began around 12 billion years ago in a cataclysmic explosion we call the Big Bang

Most astronomers now believe that the universe began around 12 billion years ago in a cataclysmic explosion we call the Big Bang

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-1...
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#95987 Aug 3, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
The world is empty without God.
You poor soul. That you require a fictional, make-believe, bronze age, fairy tale "god" to give your life meaning.
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#95988 Aug 3, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
<quoted text>"Remember everything was created first..." is a claim in bible but now disproved. You are taking everything in bible quite literarily. you are at liberty to believe anything at all but then you are wrong to tell us that it is the "truth" from creator.
Really? You have disproven creation?

Where did time come from?
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#95989 Aug 3, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>The Theory of Evolution is NOT the explanation of the origin of life, moron! It is the explanation of the DIVERSITY of life!

If you want to argue against something, shouldn't you at least know what the f*ck you're arguing against!???

You guys are hilarious! You want to debate subjects (religion -v- science) yet you barely have a grip on YOUR side of the argument while knowing virtually nothing of the science you attempt to argue against that doesn't come from a religious apologetic site! And you wonder why we think you're morons!??
You are wrong, evolution starts with the first life form to today, I would call that a pretty complete tale of the origin of life on this planet.

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