Evolution vs. Creation

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imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#95660 Jul 29, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Part 2
But even prefiltering cannot always help the theory. For even cleansed data routinely lead to evolutionary trees that are incongruent (the opposite of consilience). As one study explained, the problem is so confusing that results “can lead to high confidence in incorrect hypotheses.” And although evolutionists thought that more data would solve their problems, the opposite has occurred. With the ever increasing volumes of data (particularly molecular data), incongruence between trees “has become pervasive.”
This problem became all the more obvious in a new study that examined 1,070 different genes found in a couple dozen yeast species (yes, the data were prefiltered). All those genes taken together produced one evolutionary tree, but each of the 1,070 different genes produced a different tree—1,070 plus 1 different trees. It was, as one evolutionistadmitted “a bit shocking.”
Or as another evolutionist put it,“We are trying to figure out the phylogenetic relationships of 1.8 million species and can’t even sort out 20 [types of] yeast.”
Clearly something is amiss and for evolutionists it cannot be the theory. That means it must be the data. The solution is postfiltering, to go along with the prefiltering. Whereas evolutionists once assured themselves that their problems would go away when more data became available, they now are headed in exactly the opposite direction.
What is needed now is less data. Specifically, less contradictory data. As one evolutionist explained,“if you take just the strongly supported genes, then you recover the correct tree.” And what are “strongly supported” genes? Those would be genes that cooperate with the theory. So now in addition to prefiltering we have postfiltering. We might say that the data now are theory-laden-laden. Evolutionists will be eliminating the uncooperative genes and retaining those genes with what evolutionists euphemistically refer to as “strong phylogenetic signals.”
Then they can tell us again that evolution is a fact because the evidence says so.
That’s just the stuff of good solid scientific investigation.
http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2013/06/contr...
There is a type of fish that are 'immune' to the extremely poisonous plants that they live in. They could not have evolved this trait because they would not have lived long enough to change and therefore would have become extinct.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#95661 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Birds can point out the awesome power of God's creation
Fancy yourself as a bird aye?
Imagine that.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#95662 Jul 29, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Fancy yourself as a bird aye?
Imagine that.
??what??

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#95664 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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There is a type of fish that are 'immune' to the extremely poisonous plants that they live in. They could not have evolved this trait because they would not have lived long enough to change and therefore would have become extinct.
You should publish this massavely well researched bit of information that no nothing about.
Huh

Faribault, MN

#95665 Jul 29, 2013
Just once would like creationist to have one small shred of proof or data to try to prove there belief.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#95666 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Birds can point out the awesome power of God's creation
how can they point out the power of a proven myth? or do you know of a god that isn't a proven myth?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#95667 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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There is a type of fish that are 'immune' to the extremely poisonous plants that they live in. They could not have evolved this trait because they would not have lived long enough to change and therefore would have become extinct.
thank you for pointing out you have no freakin' idea how evolution works...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#95668 Jul 29, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
And in the 3rd day god created the Remington bolt action rifle
So that man could fight the dinosaurs
And the homo-sexual's
how's that battle against the homosexuals goin'? even the pope seems to like them now...

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#95669 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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??what??
If you listen very carefully , your knowledge will expand in a physical yet temporal manor/ and that is something even your grandchildren can cash in on.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#95670 Jul 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>thank you for pointing out you have no freakin' idea how evolution works...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13773...

These fish could not have evolved...period.

“pshhhhh”

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#95671 Jul 29, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how's that battle against the homosexuals goin'? even the pope seems to like them now...
Meh i got one homo erectus
3 gigantapithicus and 2 rabbits not a bad hunt

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#95672 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13773...
These fish could not have evolved...period.
again, you show your complete ignorance on how evolution works.

why do you even attempt to debunk something you clearly do not understand event he basics of? do you enjoy looking foolish?
Huh

Faribault, MN

#95673 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13773...
These fish could not have evolved...period.
Yes real easy...But first you need basic education more then buybull and then you get it.

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Earth

#95674 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Birds can point out the awesome power of God's creation
If they could they'd do a Hell of a better job than your lot of delusional shysters.

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#95675 Jul 29, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13773...
These fish could not have evolved...period.
Yet all the evidence indicates that they did. Those anemones aren't plants by the way. You said they were in another post. More evidence indicating that you don't understand squat about biology.

“Robert Stevens”

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Jersey City , NJ

#95678 Jul 29, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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170, thank you very much.
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TFB
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Actually, at the moment, I am helping with a large fundraiser for the Volunteers Assisting Veterans. Very worthy organization.
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Better than what? Raising money for veterans. What are you doing for your fellow man this afternoon? Besides bitching at us, I mean.
Nice post but here goes Karma. I will tell you what you tell everyone that has a personal religious experience, and that is. I don't believe you. I think you call other people's claims to be fake because you make false claims yourself.

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#95679 Jul 29, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Nice post but here goes Karma. I will tell you what you tell everyone that has a personal religious experience, and that is. I don't believe you. I think you call other people's claims to be fake because you make false claims yourself.
Sour grapes.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#95680 Jul 29, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Nice post but here goes Karma. I will tell you what you tell everyone that has a personal religious experience, and that is. I don't believe you. I think you call other people's claims to be fake because you make false claims yourself.
Its because they haven't experienced a truthful experience yet. There is no way to understand it until it happens to you.

“pshhhhh”

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#95681 Jul 29, 2013
Anybody else here like ice cream i sure do peopermint is my favourite

“pshhhhh”

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#95682 Jul 29, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
Anybody else here like ice cream i sure do peopermint is my favourite
Peppermint*

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