Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
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Don't quote out of context.
We do have the facts. We are glad to show that we do.
The next very important point is that we have proved evolution. The vast majority of scientists have looked at all of the possibilities and they agree that the theory of evolution is the correct answer. Since evolution is essentially biology they would be the scientists that you would trust the most. Over 99% of all scientists believe the theory of evolution. That means the few that don't are way off into the fringe.
So, if you want to change anything the burden of proof is upon you.
Now if you are talking about the existence of god, which has nothing to do with evolution. Again the atheists are right. It has always been up to the person making the positive claim to make their case. You are claiming a god exists. This has never been proven in any way. Therefore the burden of proof is still upon you.
Do you understand this? This is very simple logic. Even a fundie should be able to see that this is fair.
If you did have the fats you wouldn't be debating me about the burden of proof because you would have the proof. You have faith and belief like everyone else. I do have my personal proof and as I said I except you are not of God, you are a drone, or acting like you are a drone.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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If you did have the fats you wouldn't be debating me about the burden of proof because you would have the proof. You have faith and belief like everyone else. I do have my personal proof and as I said I except you are not of God, you are a drone, or acting like you are a drone.
Nope. We have evidence for all of our claims. Our side has been "proven". Yours hasn't.

If you want to ask about specific evidence I will be more than happy to go over it with you. The reason we are so quick to ask for evidence is because we KNOW that you do not have any. Sometimes it is fun to watch you scramble around for some.

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Nope. We have evidence for all of our claims. Our side has been "proven". Yours hasn't.
If you want to ask about specific evidence I will be more than happy to go over it with you. The reason we are so quick to ask for evidence is because we KNOW that you do not have any. Sometimes it is fun to watch you scramble around for some.

Are you a fat drone? LMAO

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Are you a fat drone? LMAO
Not the last time I checked.

The "fat" part was a typo that I will let go just this once.

Heavens nows i nver mike a tipo.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
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Nope. We have evidence for all of our claims. Our side has been "proven". Yours hasn't.
If you want to ask about specific evidence I will be more than happy to go over it with you. The reason we are so quick to ask for evidence is because we KNOW that you do not have any. Sometimes it is fun to watch you scramble around for some.
I am not picking at you but I see you say all the time "I would be happy to teach you" or I would be happy to go over that with you" or other things. What is it again you hold master degrees in and or certified in when it comes to science? Like I said just asking.

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I am not picking at you but I see you say all the time "I would be happy to teach you" or I would be happy to go over that with you" or other things. What is it again you hold master degrees in and or certified in when it comes to science? Like I said just asking.
Geology BS. Most of the science here you should have learned in high school. It does not take a higher level degree to explain it.

Some facts might take a while to understand. I did a lot of tutoring of students when I was in college. Getting someone to understand something is enjoyable.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
I hope this is not Kong's article. I don't think it is. This writer too shows the many flaws in the RATE Project. He also points out that none of it was peer reviewed:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/origins/hel...
SBT, you can repeat your posting fallacious stories about RATE. We will continually debunk it.
And again, radiometric dating is only one bit of evidence that shows the world is old. Its usefulness is that it gives specific dates. The best we can do with many geologic dating methods is to prove that the age of the Earth has to be hundred of millions or billions of years old and the relative age between strata. Radiometric dating is not needed to show that the Earth is old. We already knew that.
Let's say you see an old man walking down the street. There will be several tips of his age. How he walks, how his skin looks, how his hair looks, teeth, even fingerprints. A picture ID with a birth date is not needed to know that he is old. It does tell you exactly how old. An astute person could get a date within 10% for most cases and 30% for almost all cases.
Sorry SZ, I have no plans to check my brains in at the evo lie door to make you happy today.

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Sorry SZ, I have no plans to check my brains in at the evo lie door to make you happy today.
Evolution is not a lie. In fact it is always the creationists who end up lying. That is rather humorous.

For example you claimed your RATE study was peer reviewed and you have yet to provide a link showing that it was peer reviewed.

Wouldn't that make you a liar?
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Sorry SZ, I have no plans to check my brains in at the evo lie door to make you happy today.
Excellent! Be forever ignorant. It doesn't make one bit of difference. The Theory of Evolution will still be studied and refined as our knowledge progresses. How are those peer reviewed studies of creationism, I mean Intelligent design going?

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<quoted text>what makes it heavy? and, as we all know, two objects of different weight still drop at the same rate, so that is not all that is going one there.

once again, youtalk of things you don't understand...
"what makes it heavy?"

The seriousness of the situation.

Man that's Heavy Dude!

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what makes it heavy? and, as we all know, two objects of different weight still drop at the same rate, so that is not all that is going one there.

once again, youtalk of things you don't understand...
There is nothing I don't understand.

Once again you have no new thoughts just repeating what you see others post.
I think you're really just a Parrot with a voice recognition program.

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<quoted text>i don't know, humans can reach pretty high. we've reached the edge of the solar system so far. if you dropped those items there, what do you think would happen?
What do you think would happen POLLY!

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>I cheated, I taped the feather to the bowling ball.
Now a question that will fry your brain.
Drop a 22 bullet and fire a 22 bullet on a level plane of equal height. Negate wind and air resistance effects.
Which one will hit the ground first?
To be real accurate you must drop the bullet at the same time the fired bullet leaves the barrel.

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Hols it, I hate to do this, though I may be coming in late, but replaytime might be correct. If I am right he is talking about falling with the effect of wind resistance.

If there is no wind resistance objects will fall at the same rate, well, almost. So a lighter ball will fall marginally slower than a denser ball in an atmosphere. In a vacuum, like on the Moon, you will not see a difference.
Proven by the Apollo astronauts on the moon like 40 years ago.

It's on video, you can see it for yourself.
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This little old lady was very frightened and asked me to do something religious,so I held a collection..

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Man-on-Fire wrote:
<quoted text>I am not picking at you but I see you say all the time "I would be happy to teach you" or I would be happy to go over that with you" or other things. What is it again you hold master degrees in and or certified in when it comes to science? Like I said just asking.
He just thinks he is the knower of all things according to him what he doesn't know isn't worth knowing

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<quoted text>Depends on the velocity and gr of the bullet a typical 40 gr 22 bullet will have a muzzle velocity somewhere around 1250 ft per second and will travel over a mile so the fired bullets gunna have a hell of a head start on the one you just drop
In the perfect experiment they would hit the ground at the same time.

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<quoted text>Well its going a lot faster to begin with by the time they are travelling at the same speed again the fired bullet is way ahead so of course it will hit the ground first
The real problem is not one gun fires a straight bullet all arch up at first. So this would have to be a hypothetical test.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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If you did have the fats you wouldn't be debating me about the burden of proof because you would have the proof. You have faith and belief like everyone else. I do have my personal proof and as I said I except you are not of God, you are a drone, or acting like you are a drone.
Yeah, probably not. I know I have no belief, none needed since I do not consider anything unsupported by evidence to be real, and no faith in anything that is not demonstrably accurate. Just because you're brain is too small to consider the possibility that some people prefer to live in reality doesn't mean it's not possible.

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<quoted text>In the perfect experiment they would hit the ground at the same time.
No it doesn't arc straight away though

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