Evolution vs. Creation

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#94475 Jun 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Do you not comprehend what that says? Where in any of that does it say "no direction"?
Yup, you got me. I made a mistake.

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#94476 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Really? No direction.
What if the environment is continually cooling. Since evolution has no direction soon all life will die because it gets below 55 degrees Fahrenheit at night.
Hmm, that does not seem to be the case. Perhaps replaytime is wrong.
I believe the cooler temps would be covered in the environment.

And again nowhere in there does it say evolution has no direction.

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#94477 Jun 28, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, it is called natural selection. You just agreed with evolution.
Not completely i didn't . i agreed to a statement about evolution

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#94478 Jun 28, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, it is called natural selection. You just agreed with evolution.
And to take it a little farther, Science says the genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all.

How is something that may occur randomly not random at all?

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#94479 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Not completely i didn't . i agreed to a statement about evolution
We're just taking this one step at a time.

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#94480 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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He didn't. You are reinterpreting the Bible in light of today's facts. That is not the way prophecy is supposed to work.
What! So words mean nothing, no definitions, no truth. Pretty straight forward prediction of technology, that's the black and white of it.

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#94481 Jun 28, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>We're just taking this one step at a time.
Not even because i agree with aspects from both sides of the fence

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#94482 Jun 28, 2013
There is no overall direction or goal of evolution.

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#94483 Jun 28, 2013
SBT wrote:
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What! So words mean nothing, no definitions, no truth. Pretty straight forward prediction of technology, that's the black and white of it.
Really? I don't see it that way.

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#94484 Jun 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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And to take it a little farther, Science says the genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all.
How is something that may occur randomly not random at all?
There are two different parts of evolution.

Variation, which is random. And natural selection which is not random.

The variation part of evolution is random. The natural selection part is not.

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#94485 Jun 28, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
There is no overall direction or goal of evolution.
Then the theory of evolution contradicts itself

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#94486 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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There are two different parts of evolution.
Variation, which is random. And natural selection which is not random.
The variation part of evolution is random. The natural selection part is not.
But science says 'the genetic variation on which "natural selection acts" may occur randomly, but "natural selection itself" is not random at all.

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#94487 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Then the theory of evolution contradicts itself
How so?

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#94488 Jun 28, 2013
Aussiebob wrote:
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Then the theory of evolution contradicts itself
Please elaborate your statement. I am unfamiliar with this contradiction.

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#94489 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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There are two different parts of evolution.
Variation, which is random. And natural selection which is not random.
The variation part of evolution is random. The natural selection part is not.
Funny how it had the answer to its own question and then for some inexplicable reason lumped the two parts into one and asked how they could be both random and nonrandom.

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#94490 Jun 28, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Please elaborate your statement. I am unfamiliar with this contradiction.
You've only got to read back through previous comments from some of you "experts"

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#94491 Jun 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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But science says 'the genetic variation on which "natural selection acts" may occur randomly, but "natural selection itself" is not random at all.
One more time for the slow of thinking. Variation is random. Natural selection is not.

For a working example of this look at what happens when a rookie plays a pro in poker. The rookie will go home broke. Sadder but wiser.

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#94492 Jun 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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And to take it a little farther, Science says the genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all.
How is something that may occur randomly not random at all?
Because it has a definitive reason. It is an unknown future variable, but hind sight can reveal it. Therefore it isn't random , but it is unpredictable.

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#94493 Jun 28, 2013
A box contains 500 cards. The face of each card is one of five possible solid colors the backs are all the same. There are 100 red cards, 100 green cards, 100 blue cards, 100 yellow cards, and 100 orange cards. These are mixed in the box and 100 cards are drawn at random without looking at the faces of the cards. It should be equally likely to select any color card at random. Each color represents a phenotype within the population of cards. The yellow phenotype is particularly susceptible to predation and predators will target that color. So in turning over cards, you remove the yellow phenotype in a nonrandom manner leaving behind a population consisting of a random selection of the other four phenotypes. Be mindful, this is an analogy and not a perfect one, but it should suffice.

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#94494 Jun 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>One more time for the slow of thinking. Variation is random. Natural selection is not.

For a working example of this look at what happens when a rookie plays a pro in poker. The rookie will go home broke. Sadder but wiser.
Not always the case buddi at all

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