Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Jun 28, 2013
 
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In hindsight yes, in foresight no. There are so many positive paths that evolution can take it is hard to predict what will happen ahead of time. There are some very narrow aspects that can be predicted, but even then the exact path cannot be specified. Look at sight as an example. It has evolved many times and taken many different paths. The end result is roughly the same, but the mechanics are different due to the different paths.
The direction is in the population.

The environment drags the population toward greater fitness within it. The population exists in an environment containing life-threatening hazards that can destroy individuals in the population. Because there are variations among the individuals, some are better able to resist the hazards and survive, and others are more vulnerable and are destroyed.

By destroying the more vulnerable members, the environment inadvertently leaves behind the individuals who were best able to resist destruction (the survivors). Those will be the parents of the next generation, and the next generation will tend to have characteristics similar to their parents, i.e. the characteristics of the survivors.

The variation among individuals is random, without direction. Then the environment destroys the ones who are less well suited to surviving in that environment, which gives a direction to the population's evolution by only allowing changes in one direction to be successful.

That is the direction of evolution.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong but would a drunkards walk down a hill not be the most random thing you've ever seen lol
Where did he start and where did he end? If you did not see the walk you might make the mistake of thinking he took a straight path.

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You dont get older being silly in this country none of the animals you mentioned pose serious threat anyway
I grew up in the bush n il quite happily handle a brown snake along with any other hmm no crocs where i am I'm afraid or funnel webs haha scared of roos you gotta be kidding
Those dingos are gonna get you man! lol

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<quoted text>The direction is in the population.

The environment drags the population toward greater fitness within it. The population exists in an environment containing life-threatening hazards that can destroy individuals in the population. Because there are variations among the individuals, some are better able to resist the hazards and survive, and others are more vulnerable and are destroyed.

By destroying the more vulnerable members, the environment inadvertently leaves behind the individuals who were best able to resist destruction (the survivors). Those will be the parents of the next generation, and the next generation will tend to have characteristics similar to their parents, i.e. the characteristics of the survivors.

The variation among individuals is random, without direction. Then the environment destroys the ones who are less well suited to surviving in that environment, which gives a direction to the population's evolution by only allowing changes in one direction to be successful.

That is the direction of evolution.
Yupp i agree with this post

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Aussie Bob was mangled to death today in Queensland by a viscous gang of goannas led by a Tasmanian devil. lmao

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<quoted text>Where did he start and where did he end? If you did not see the walk you might make the mistake of thinking he took a straight path.
An obviously missed alot in-between ?

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Don't live in tasmania weirdo there is devils here

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Aussie Bob was mangled to death today in Queensland by a viscous gang of goannas led by a Tasmanian devil. lmao
Il eat the goannas

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Don't live in tasmania weirdo there is devils here
Is no devils here

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The direction is in the population.
The environment drags the population toward greater fitness within it. The population exists in an environment containing life-threatening hazards that can destroy individuals in the population. Because there are variations among the individuals, some are better able to resist the hazards and survive, and others are more vulnerable and are destroyed.
By destroying the more vulnerable members, the environment inadvertently leaves behind the individuals who were best able to resist destruction (the survivors). Those will be the parents of the next generation, and the next generation will tend to have characteristics similar to their parents, i.e. the characteristics of the survivors.
The variation among individuals is random, without direction. Then the environment destroys the ones who are less well suited to surviving in that environment, which gives a direction to the population's evolution by only allowing changes in one direction to be successful.
That is the direction of evolution.
Really? No direction.

What if the environment is continually cooling. Since evolution has no direction soon all life will die because it gets below 55 degrees Fahrenheit at night.

Hmm, that does not seem to be the case. Perhaps replaytime is wrong.

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Really? No direction.
What if the environment is continually cooling. Since evolution has no direction soon all life will die because it gets below 55 degrees Fahrenheit at night.
Hmm, that does not seem to be the case. Perhaps replaytime is wrong.
Do you not comprehend what that says? Where in any of that does it say "no direction"?

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Yupp i agree with this post
Yep, it is called natural selection. You just agreed with evolution.

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<quoted text>human eyes are actually rather pathetic by comparison in the real world.
why did your proven mythical god give his favorite species foruth rate eyes?
when you look at yoru cult with an objective eye and logic, it falls apart, as do all your arguments...
My eyes are ok, you should see the woman I got..
Also I'm still here because I have better eyes than the bears I used to dodge in alaska LOL.

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Really? No direction.
What if the environment is continually cooling. Since evolution has no direction soon all life will die because it gets below 55 degrees Fahrenheit at night.
Hmm, that does not seem to be the case. Perhaps replaytime is wrong.
It is confusing direction with selection pressure.

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Do you not comprehend what that says? Where in any of that does it say "no direction"?
Yup, you got me. I made a mistake.

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Really? No direction.
What if the environment is continually cooling. Since evolution has no direction soon all life will die because it gets below 55 degrees Fahrenheit at night.
Hmm, that does not seem to be the case. Perhaps replaytime is wrong.
I believe the cooler temps would be covered in the environment.

And again nowhere in there does it say evolution has no direction.

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<quoted text>Yep, it is called natural selection. You just agreed with evolution.
Not completely i didn't . i agreed to a statement about evolution

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<quoted text>Yep, it is called natural selection. You just agreed with evolution.
And to take it a little farther, Science says the genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all.

How is something that may occur randomly not random at all?

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Not completely i didn't . i agreed to a statement about evolution
We're just taking this one step at a time.

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He didn't. You are reinterpreting the Bible in light of today's facts. That is not the way prophecy is supposed to work.
What! So words mean nothing, no definitions, no truth. Pretty straight forward prediction of technology, that's the black and white of it.

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