Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Relabeling observations doesn't erase the problem. If you study deBeer's research, he proved that many homologous traits were produced by non-homologous genes. For example, the lenses of the eyes in two closely related species of frogs are proven to arise from two separate embryologic structures.* No one would argue that these two lenses are not homologous. Yet they are produced by different genes and therefore are not genetically related. Many other examples were cited through his research. He expressed his conclusions in his book Homology: An Unsolved Problem, as follows,
"It is now clear that the pride with which it was assumed that the inheritance of homologous structures from a common ancestor explained homology was misplaced; for such inheritance cannot be ascribed to identity of genes. The attempt to find 'homologous' genes, except in closely related species, has been given up as hopeless."
*de Beer, Sir Gavin, Homology, An Unsolved Problem, Oxford University Press,(1971).
So you see, SZ...your intuitions, however compelling they might be, have been scientifically proven to be FALSE. Hunches must capitulate to science. Homology is a failed argument. The fact that you DarwinBots still hang onto it clearly indicates that you are groping for evidence to validate your failed religion.
Name one idiot.

It is not relabeling when you show that convergent evolution does not make homologous structures. Compare a squid's eye to a human eye.

They are an example of convergent evolution. They are in no way homologous.

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By the way HST, you forgot your link.

Your quote is useless. You made the rule necessary since you quote mined so often.

I have to run for a few hours. Perhaps you will have something by the time I get back

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And one more point HST, you might want to find an article that is more recent than 40 years old. I have my doubts if they could even identify genes at that point in time.

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My bitch is back!
And he is in a pitched battle for biggest idiot on the forum.
Jimbo is beyond stupid, he is not a contender.
So who will win today. You have to do a bit better than this post my bitch. All it shows so far is terrible reading comprehension on your part.s
I would say someone that calls their self a tard has to be the biggest idiot. You win the award again hands down. LMMFAO

I glad you are admitting you are gay. To consider me your bitchh you have to be gay. Oh and by the way next time you give me a reach around, use your left hand. It is softer than your right hand. LMAO

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Relabeling observations doesn't erase the problem. If you study deBeer's research, he proved that many homologous traits were produced by non-homologous genes. For example, the lenses of the eyes in two closely related species of frogs are proven to arise from two separate embryologic structures.* No one would argue that these two lenses are not homologous. Yet they are produced by different genes and therefore are not genetically related. Many other examples were cited through his research. He expressed his conclusions in his book Homology: An Unsolved Problem, as follows,
"It is now clear that the pride with which it was assumed that the inheritance of homologous structures from a common ancestor explained homology was misplaced; for such inheritance cannot be ascribed to identity of genes. The attempt to find 'homologous' genes, except in closely related species, has been given up as hopeless."
*de Beer, Sir Gavin, Homology, An Unsolved Problem, Oxford University Press,(1971).
So you see, SZ...your intuitions, however compelling they might be, have been scientifically proven to be FALSE. Hunches must capitulate to science. Homology is a failed argument. The fact that you DarwinBots still hang onto it clearly indicates that you are groping for evidence to validate your failed religion.
Old news. You need to look at the current definition of homology not one from 40+ years ago.
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Name one idiot.
It is not relabeling when you show that convergent evolution does not make homologous structures. Compare a squid's eye to a human eye.
They are an example of convergent evolution. They are in no way homologous.
I just gave an example from De Beer's book, you moron.
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Old news. You need to look at the current definition of homology not one from 40+ years ago.
Yet another cowardly dodge from Mike.
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And one more point HST, you might want to find an article that is more recent than 40 years old. I have my doubts if they could even identify genes at that point in time.
DeBeer didn't identify genes. He excised the embryologist structure from developing lenses of two developing frogs, and proved that they were not genetically related.

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DeBeer didn't identify genes. He excised the embryologist structure from developing lenses of two developing frogs, and proved that they were not genetically related.
"DeBeer didn't identify genes /and proved that they were not genetically related."

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I would say someone that calls their self a tard has to be the biggest idiot. You win the award again hands down. LMMFAO
I glad you are admitting you are gay. To consider me your bitchh you have to be gay. Oh and by the way next time you give me a reach around, use your left hand. It is softer than your right hand. LMAO
you like to use LMAO, and such...are you a teenager from a decade ago? or is your intelligence just stuck at that level and era?

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I just gave an example from De Beer's book, you moron.
You forgot the link idiot.

For you that is an invalid source.

Creatard liars who have been caught quote mining many many times must submit a linkable source. Otherwise all quotes are to be treated as garbage.

You have been caught lying many many times

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<quoted text>you like to use LMAO, and such...are you a teenager from a decade ago? or is your intelligence just stuck at that level and era?
Since she is my bitch replaytime knows that she must make herself look as imbecilic as possible for my entertainment.

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And I see that How's That for Stupid? did not come up with anything during my absence.

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It sounds like you are confusing adaptation and evolution. Evolution has been debunked. Adaptation is very real. I would encourage you to read up on the two subjects.
isn't adaptation upon adaptation upon adaptation what evolution is?

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DeBeer didn't identify genes. He excised the embryologist structure from developing lenses of two developing frogs, and proved that they were not genetically related.
So you totally screwed up.

Thanks for admitting it.

Even How's That has admitted that he has nothing. I don't even have to try to dig up his DeBeers' link.

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DeBeer didn't identify genes. He excised the embryologist structure from developing lenses of two developing frogs, and proved that they were not genetically related.
Wow, so you are saying they identified genes without identifying genes. Sorry, but the real world does not work with such contradictions in terms.

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Since she is my bitch replaytime knows that she must make herself look as imbecilic as possible for my entertainment.
You are just as gay as I am. Glad you finally admit that. I like it in the trunk and you like it in the mouth. What a pair we make. LMAO

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You are just as gay as I am. Glad you finally admit that. I like it in the trunk and you like it in the mouth. What a pair we make. LMAO
You keep forgetting, you are my bitch.

At best you would be a bottom only.

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If replaytime's physical stature matches her mental stature she is about 3 feet tall with a flat head. She is the perfect woman. She can stand while she blows me and provides a handy resting place for my beer while she does it.

Aaaah.... Perfection!

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You keep forgetting, you are my bitch.
At best you would be a bottom only.
No you give a reach around that is why I said use your left hand for it is softer. I like it in the trunk but in your mouth you like it when I dunk. You should be glad with the gay win in court today. It means so much for you and I.

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