Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Jun 22, 2013
 
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If you re-read my post to understand the line of logic - The earliest bacteria had the Axial Motor 3.6 BY ago according to your own evolutionists doc's as shown in the links. This date is the first life form goal post, so where is the magic time needed for the chemical's you believe self-thought themselves into existence onto a fully operational "nanatechnological marvel" right from the start! Your side needs to get together and get their story straight - again. Bacteria has a function in an ecosystem, one as a whole that was placed on earth as part of a "Very Good" thing by God for us to observe and "marvel" at.
You made the extreme fallacy of asserting that things have to be created.

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SBT wrote:
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If you re-read my post to understand the line of logic - The earliest bacteria had the Axial Motor 3.6 BY ago according to your own evolutionists doc's as shown in the links. This date is the first life form goal post, so where is the magic time needed for the chemical's you believe self-thought themselves into existence onto a fully operational "nanatechnological marvel" right from the start! Your side needs to get together and get their story straight - again. Bacteria has a function in an ecosystem, one as a whole that was placed on earth as part of a "Very Good" thing by God for us to observe and "marvel" at.
You are badly mistaken.

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Jun 22, 2013
 
SBT wrote:
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If you re-read my post to understand the line of logic - The earliest bacteria had the Axial Motor 3.6 BY ago according to your own evolutionists doc's as shown in the links. This date is the first life form goal post, so where is the magic time needed for the chemical's you believe self-thought themselves into existence onto a fully operational "nanatechnological marvel" right from the start! Your side needs to get together and get their story straight - again. Bacteria has a function in an ecosystem, one as a whole that was placed on earth as part of a "Very Good" thing by God for us to observe and "marvel" at.
It still had plenty of time to evolve the "motor" even if what you say about the earliest known bacteria is true.

To be honest we cannot tell when the flagellum first appeared on bacteria since that sort of detail would not be preserved in the fossil record. Anyone who claims that the flagellum existed then is probably making claims that they cannot back up.

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Jun 22, 2013
 
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Fascinating. You understood in 2 minutes what some haven't learned in 2,000 years.
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I've heard of Wade Davis, haven't read anything by him.
Davis wrote the book "The Serpent and the Rainbow" from which the film was made.

try "Shadows in the Sun" fascinating...

he is an ethnobotanist...what a cool field of study!

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Jun 22, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The early hominids were veggies, and tree dwellers mostly.
With hooked big toes and very ape like. Their huge jaw muscles were needed to eat tough plant fibers just like gorillas.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/hominid/australo_1....
Hunter gatherers foraged everything they could , until farming and civilization starting producing staple crops. And the rest is written history.
would they have eaten insects like most of the apes do? that's not vegetarian.

maybe they are like so many people i have met that say they are vegetarian, but eat seafood...

another great book that deals with vegetarianism tangentally is "Some We Love, Some We Hate, and Some We Eat" by Hal Herzog. his figures on people who quit vegetarianism and those that totally lie about their meat consumption is pretty eye opening...

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<quoted text>Why did you end your post with a stupid question?

Evolution is science, nothing more, nothing less. The theory lets us understand how life came into its present form.

We know that we share common descent with all life. There are several independent source of evidence that all agree.
Your 3 BIG Myths:

1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.

2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.

3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.

And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.

"SNAP"

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but the god of your cult is a proven myth! why can't you grasp this irrefutable fact? proven, proven, proven myth. your cult's god does not exist. satan does not exist.

your own bible and cult dogma proved your god false. deprogramers are listed in teh yellow pages and online...
Your 3 BIG Myths:

1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.

2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.

3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.

And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.

"SNAP"

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Jun 22, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>would they have eaten insects like most of the apes do? that's not vegetarian.
maybe they are like so many people i have met that say they are vegetarian, but eat seafood...
another great book that deals with vegetarianism tangentally is "Some We Love, Some We Hate, and Some We Eat" by Hal Herzog. his figures on people who quit vegetarianism and those that totally lie about their meat consumption is pretty eye opening...

Well bugs aint exactly meat, protein but not animal protein.

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Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
you got all three of those wrong.

why do you continually try to debunk things you don't even have the fundamental knowledge of?
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Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wait a second, wasn't that before "sin" entered the world?
Of course they were vegetarians! Along with wolves,.... lions, tigers, and bears oh my!
umm a grizzly bears main diet is vegetables and a panda bear eats bamboo. The only bear i can think of who's main diet is meat is the polar bear but like I said that's only because it had no other option especially since it lives in a place with barely and plants.
and have you ever tried to feed a lion or tiger vegetables and seen what happens? no so I guess you cant proof that vegetables were not their original diet.

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
Spamming the thread with nonsense is an idiots way of admitting that he has nothing.

Thank you for admitting that you have nothing.

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Jun 22, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Well bugs aint exactly meat, protein but not animal protein.
so one can eat insects and still be a vegetarian? grubs are pretty 'meaty'...

don't insects have muscles? that would be meat, wouldn't it?

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Dinoeater wrote:
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umm a grizzly bears main diet is vegetables and a panda bear eats bamboo. The only bear i can think of who's main diet is meat is the polar bear but like I said that's only because it had no other option especially since it lives in a place with barely and plants.
and have you ever tried to feed a lion or tiger vegetables and seen what happens? no so I guess you cant proof that vegetables were not their original diet.
ummmm...you've never seen grizzlies fishing for salmon?

even black bears eat meat. it is not their main dietary source, but they do kill and eat other animals. up in my neck of the woods, they kill many baby moose each year and eat them...
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so one can eat insects and still be a vegetarian? grubs are pretty 'meaty'...
don't insects have muscles? that would be meat, wouldn't it?
Meat for the Gorillas, they love big juicy bugs.
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YUM !

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you got all three of those wrong.

why do you continually try to debunk things you don't even have the fundamental knowledge of?
Mr. Woody dick
Please feel free to enlighten me on your 3 myths.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Spamming the thread with nonsense is an idiots way of admitting that he has nothing.

Thank you for admitting that you have nothing.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...

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YUM !
many insects are, in fact, quite tasty.

i've had deep fried grasshoppers, they were quite good.
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<quoted text> Nope not Catholics, and I understand how female are impregnated by natural and unnatural means.
But just used a few of the dozens of idiotic stories.
Now try explaining a talking snake.
The serpent was part of Adams' anatomy and didn't itself speak. It was dickhead Adam, he was a sex offender and he talked Eve into oral sex, "eating" from the tree of knowledge which was Adams' body. They were naked, so the serpent was out there.

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Jun 22, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so one can eat insects and still be a vegetarian? grubs are pretty 'meaty'...

don't insects have muscles? that would be meat, wouldn't it?
"don't insects have muscles? that would be meat, wouldn't it?"

meat\ˈmēt\
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1 a : flesh of a mammal as opposed to fowl or fish.

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