Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 197418 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“We were created”

Level 1

Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93778 Jun 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Do you just try to find new ways to sound like a total moron?
Aura Mytha gets it. Too bad you don't.

“Seventh son”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#93779 Jun 23, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
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So we agree they described what they saw and did not have the knowledge or means of knowing any better.
Yes in fact Christians rejected the Greeks science as pagan, and insisted on the Hebrew Ideas of the world, The Greeks knew the world was round, but the Romans burned their knowledge, and the world remained flat for
at least a thousand years longer. Though some knew, they could not challenge clergy under threat of heresy.

Eventually they worked it out though.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93780 Jun 23, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
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So we agree they described what they saw and did not have the knowledge or means of knowing any better.
That is true. They also thought the whole world was flat and the Bible is written in a way that shows that.

It is a very minor flaw in the Bible, yet some apologists will go to great lengths to deny it. The fact that they thought the world was flat did not make them idiots or fools. That is not the reason we point that out. It merely shows that the Bible has errors in it.

Now if you want some real fun with an apologist all you have to do is to show them some of the failed prophesies of the Bible.

“We were created”

Level 1

Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93781 Jun 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That is true. They also thought the whole world was flat and the Bible is written in a way that shows that.
It is a very minor flaw in the Bible, yet some apologists will go to great lengths to deny it. The fact that they thought the world was flat did not make them idiots or fools. That is not the reason we point that out. It merely shows that the Bible has errors in it.
Now if you want some real fun with an apologist all you have to do is to show them some of the failed prophesies of the Bible.
They were not the brightest people and did not have the knowledge to know or prove different than what they saw.

Here is my original statement with the link.

If you stood out in this desert. Turned a 360 to look at it all. It would look like a circle to you with a dome over it because the horizon would make it look like it ended. So what the people thousands of years ago were not the brightest. They described what they saw.

http://www.quarryscapes.no/images/Egypt_sites...

“We were created”

Level 1

Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93782 Jun 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That is true. They also thought the whole world was flat and the Bible is written in a way that shows that.
It is a very minor flaw in the Bible, yet some apologists will go to great lengths to deny it. The fact that they thought the world was flat did not make them idiots or fools. That is not the reason we point that out. It merely shows that the Bible has errors in it.
Now if you want some real fun with an apologist all you have to do is to show them some of the failed prophesies of the Bible.
I find that argument of a flat/circle earth being based on today's knowledge from everyone. Evolutionists used it as a big argument to the creationists. Of course we know the world is a sphere today, they didn't back then. Creationists don't want to admit that people back then were lowly knowledgeable and had no clue compared to today. But like it seems every one basis their argument on todays knowledge.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93783 Jun 23, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
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I find that argument of a flat/circle earth being based on today's knowledge from everyone. Evolutionists used it as a big argument to the creationists. Of course we know the world is a sphere today, they didn't back then. Creationists don't want to admit that people back then were lowly knowledgeable and had no clue compared to today. But like it seems every one basis their argument on todays knowledge.
It is hard not to.

The thing that people need to remember is that the various ancient peoples were uneducated. They weren't stupid.

I am all of a sudden very tired. Have a good night.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#93785 Jun 23, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
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If you stood out in this desert. Turned a 360 to look at it all. It would look like a circle to you with a dome over it because the horizon would make it look like it ended. So what the people thousands of years ago were not the brightest. They described what they saw.
http://www.quarryscapes.no/images/Egypt_sites...
That is the point, isn't it? That the Bible is only as accurate as its authors were capable and willing to write. No divinity, no inspiration.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#93786 Jun 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>circles are flat. did you fail geometry?
If circles are flat, what was the purpose of saying the earth was a circle? Circles are round. You have to distort the word of God to fit your own beliefs.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#93787 Jun 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If circles are flat, what was the purpose of saying the earth was a circle? Circles are round. You have to distort the word of God to fit your own beliefs.
Circles are flat two dimensional objects. The Bible clearly describes he Earth as flat in several places in it.

It never describes the Earth as spherical.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#93788 Jun 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That is true. They also thought the whole world was flat and the Bible is written in a way that shows that.
It is a very minor flaw in the Bible, yet some apologists will go to great lengths to deny it. The fact that they thought the world was flat did not make them idiots or fools. That is not the reason we point that out. It merely shows that the Bible has errors in it.
Now if you want some real fun with an apologist all you have to do is to show them some of the failed prophesies of the Bible.
Name one failed prophecy in the OT. There aren't any.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#93789 Jun 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Circles are flat two dimensional objects. The Bible clearly describes he Earth as flat in several places in it.
It never describes the Earth as spherical.
Where does the bible describe the earth as flat? Books, chapters and verses please.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#93790 Jun 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If circles are flat, what was the purpose of saying the earth was a circle? Circles are round. You have to distort the word of God to fit your own beliefs.
Circles are flat. They are two dimensional.
The "word of God" is synonymous with the "jump of tortoise" or the "fur of catfish."

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93791 Jun 23, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If circles are flat, what was the purpose of saying the earth was a circle? Circles are round. You have to distort the word of God to fit your own beliefs.
but circles are flat. there is no getting around that. if your cult had a real god, he would know it was not a circle but a sphere, instead.

your bible was written wholly by humans with no divine inspiration to guide them.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93792 Jun 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Circles are flat. They are two dimensional.
The "word of God" is synonymous with the "jump of tortoise" or the "fur of catfish."
funny! I shall use those funny phrases, and credit you when i do...
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#93793 Jun 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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And my point is this should be your only answer "Science does not "need" ToE". End of story
But the problem is that scientist need the funding for TOE for their income...so....the TOE LIE must continue.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#93794 Jun 23, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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You might note at this point that it was a *Christian*, a Belgian priest naems Georges LemaƮtre, that proposed the big bang (though that was not his name for it but rather from a smart ass remark by Fred "747" Hoyle).
a "CATHOLIC PRIEST" is not considered the same as a PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN....

not even close

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93795 Jun 23, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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But the problem is that scientist need the funding for TOE for their income...so....the TOE LIE must continue.
and the church needs the funding from its cult members so their lies must continue...

the second oldest profession, don't ya know...
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#93796 Jun 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>I actually have gotten gifts from Santa as a kid...
seriously, wasn't there a real Saint Nicholas?
Yes, he was a pagan false god

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#93797 Jun 23, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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a "CATHOLIC PRIEST" is not considered the same as a PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN....
not even close
A difference not worth mentioning is practically no difference at all.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#93798 Jun 23, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Yup I say just Time. Making it real simple for you I could have asked:
Where did matter come from?
Where did space come from?
Where did energy come from?
The answer is the same. "NOTHING"
I do know the reason we have 7 days in a week is because God created everything in 7 days (prophetic days means 1 day = 1000 years)

We also calculate our time in years (BC and AD) from before the Messiah came to earth and after He was born.

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