Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 219597 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93749 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Susan miss interrupted the Bible.
Isaiah 40:22:
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
If it was God saying it, it would say "I" sit enthroned above....
Not "He" sets sit enthroned above....
kind of missed the divinely inspired concept i pointed out to you, huh?
do try to keep up, dear...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93750 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Well your words on evolution are supposedly inspired words of science evidence and you mess and screw that up all the time. Why is that? Because man is not perfect!!!!
Keep in mind inspired means -1.extraordinarily good: brilliant and creative
2.motivated by something: based on a particular motive or example
divinely inspired takes that to a whole new level...

you're falling further behind now...

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Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93751 Jun 22, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>did you notice the seemingly part of your definition? hmmm...
a circle is not a sphere in any definition...
perhaps you should read your own posts.
Uhm you can't comprehend much can you "seemingly" meaning it seems like a disc or flat circle. Like to them back it the biblical days they had know way of knowing any different so they seemingly called it a circle.

And a disc is not a sphere either. No matter how many times you want to look stupid by arguing, a disc will never be a sphere.

I done with you for you are just a waste of time and are childish wanting to be seemingly right when you are completely wrong.

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Then we evolved

#93752 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Now look up what a disk means in geometry, sorry you lose.
A disk in geometry is everything inside a circumference, when you cant see the circumference because it's shaded it's disk is larger than what is visible. BTW ball is interchangeable with disc,disk or ball in geometry. It's just old school to say disk.
Uhm "disc" as they use and disk" what you said are two different words. Nice try though.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93753 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhm you can't comprehend much can you "seemingly" meaning it seems like a disc or flat circle. Like to them back it the biblical days they had know way of knowing any different so they seemingly called it a circle.
And a disc is not a sphere either. No matter how many times you want to look stupid by arguing, a disc will never be a sphere.
I done with you for you are just a waste of time and are childish wanting to be seemingly right when you are completely wrong.
seems you didn't even understand the definition you threw out..

Disc definition - any thin, flat, circular plate or object . 2. any surface that is flat and round, or seemingly.

so a disc can be the seemingly flat appearance of a sphere. a circle can never be a sphere.

sorry fool, but you proved your self wrong on this one...

“ad victoriam”

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#93754 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Uhm "disc" as they use and disk" what you said are two different words. Nice try though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_%28geometry...

In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a plane bounded by a circle.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93755 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_%28geometry...
In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a plane bounded by a circle.
this guy doesn't even understand his own definitions, do you think he will understand yours?

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#93756 Jun 22, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>this guy doesn't even understand his own definitions, do you think he will understand yours?
Well they aren't my definitions, they're ours. All of ours , I mean I don't have my own set. I may have a few pet definitions maybe (like Jeff Foxworthy), but stick to the accepted ones when communicating seriously.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93757 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Well they aren't my definitions, they're ours. All of ours , I mean I don't have my own set. I may have a few pet definitions maybe (like Jeff Foxworthy), but stick to the accepted ones when communicating seriously.
understood. I meant he doesn't even understand the definitions he himself posts, he will most likely not understand the ones you post...

not sure what he will understand, if anything at all...

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Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93758 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_%28geometry...
In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a plane bounded by a circle.
Let's look at your link definition:

In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a plane bounded by a circle.

plane(geometry) definition - a plane is a flat, two-dimensional surface.

A circle is two dimensional being it has the dimensions of height and width but not depth, therefore is two dimensional.

None of the above define a 3 dimensional sphere, which has height and width and depth. Not even from your definition link of disk.

So let's look at that again. A disc or disk is two dimensional like a circle. Nice try though. May I suggest you take a geometry class and maybe learn something new?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93759 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's look at your link definition:
In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a plane bounded by a circle.
plane(geometry) definition - a plane is a flat, two-dimensional surface.
A circle is two dimensional being it has the dimensions of height and width but not depth, therefore is two dimensional.
None of the above define a 3 dimensional sphere, which has height and width and depth. Not even from your definition link of disk.
So let's look at that again. A disc or disk is two dimensional like a circle. Nice try though. May I suggest you take a geometry class and maybe learn something new?
the very definition YOU gave said "or seemingly flat"

give it up, dude. you proved yourself wrong....

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#93760 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's look at your link definition:
In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a plane bounded by a circle.
plane(geometry) definition - a plane is a flat, two-dimensional surface.
A circle is two dimensional being it has the dimensions of height and width but not depth, therefore is two dimensional.
None of the above define a 3 dimensional sphere, which has height and width and depth. Not even from your definition link of disk.
So let's look at that again. A disc or disk is two dimensional like a circle. Nice try though. May I suggest you take a geometry class and maybe learn something new?

Now you are making shit up.

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#93761 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you are making shit up.
Lets apply the same term to the sun.

It just happens that the Moon and the Sun appear the same size in the sky as viewed from the Earth. And since the Moon orbits the Earth in approximately the same plane as the Earth's orbit around the Sun sometimes the Moon comes directly between the Earth and the Sun.

*This is called a solar eclipse; if the alignment is slightly imperfect then the Moon covers only part of the Sun's disk and the event is called a partial eclipse.

*When it lines up perfectly the entire solar disk is blocked and it is called a total eclipse of the Sun.

Partial eclipses are visible over a wide area of the Earth but the region from which a total eclipse is visible, called the path of totality, is very narrow, just a few kilometers (though it is usually thousands of kilometers long). Eclipses of the Sun happen once or twice a year. If you stay home, you're likely to see a partial eclipse several times per decade. But since the path of totality is so small it is very unlikely that it will cross you home. So people often travel half way around the world just to see a total solar eclipse. To stand in the shadow of the Moon is an awesome experience. For a few precious minutes it gets dark in the middle of the day. The stars come out. The animals and birds think it's time to sleep. And you can see the solar corona. It is well worth a major journey.

Read more about The Sun l Sun Facts and images. by nineplanets.org

http://nineplanets.org/sol.html

*They are referring to the unseen part of the sun during the eclipse. Same as the unseen parts of the moon.

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Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93762 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you are making shit up.
Look at your own link. It says 'In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a "plane" bounded by a "circle".

Now while looking at your link click on the word "plane" that appears in blue, then read that. Then click on the word "circle" that is also in blue and read that and tell me I am making siht up.

People like you are funny. You see a definition of something but fail to see what that definition actually says in it. I have to laugh at that.

“We were created”

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Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93763 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Lets apply the same term to the sun.
It just happens that the Moon and the Sun appear the same size in the sky as viewed from the Earth. And since the Moon orbits the Earth in approximately the same plane as the Earth's orbit around the Sun sometimes the Moon comes directly between the Earth and the Sun.
*This is called a solar eclipse; if the alignment is slightly imperfect then the Moon covers only part of the Sun's disk and the event is called a partial eclipse.
*When it lines up perfectly the entire solar disk is blocked and it is called a total eclipse of the Sun.
Partial eclipses are visible over a wide area of the Earth but the region from which a total eclipse is visible, called the path of totality, is very narrow, just a few kilometers (though it is usually thousands of kilometers long). Eclipses of the Sun happen once or twice a year. If you stay home, you're likely to see a partial eclipse several times per decade. But since the path of totality is so small it is very unlikely that it will cross you home. So people often travel half way around the world just to see a total solar eclipse. To stand in the shadow of the Moon is an awesome experience. For a few precious minutes it gets dark in the middle of the day. The stars come out. The animals and birds think it's time to sleep. And you can see the solar corona. It is well worth a major journey.
Read more about The Sun l Sun Facts and images. by nineplanets.org
http://nineplanets.org/sol.html
*They are referring to the unseen part of the sun during the eclipse. Same as the unseen parts of the moon.
Uhm when you look at the moon or sun do you see a sphere or do you see the a sun disk and a moon disk? A sun disk and moon disk is the side of the sun or moon you see that appears as a flat circle.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93764 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
Look at your own link. It says 'In geometry, a disk (also spelled disc) is the region in a "plane" bounded by a "circle".
Now while looking at your link click on the word "plane" that appears in blue, then read that. Then click on the word "circle" that is also in blue and read that and tell me I am making siht up.
People like you are funny. You see a definition of something but fail to see what that definition actually says in it. I have to laugh at that.
still can't come to terms with your own definitions proveing you wrong, huh?

it does take a real man to admit he is wrong...apparently you ain't that...

“We were created”

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Since: Jun 13

Then we evolved

#93765 Jun 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Lets apply the same term to the sun.
It just happens that the Moon and the Sun appear the same size in the sky as viewed from the Earth. And since the Moon orbits the Earth in approximately the same plane as the Earth's orbit around the Sun sometimes the Moon comes directly between the Earth and the Sun.
*This is called a solar eclipse; if the alignment is slightly imperfect then the Moon covers only part of the Sun's disk and the event is called a partial eclipse.
*When it lines up perfectly the entire solar disk is blocked and it is called a total eclipse of the Sun.
Partial eclipses are visible over a wide area of the Earth but the region from which a total eclipse is visible, called the path of totality, is very narrow, just a few kilometers (though it is usually thousands of kilometers long). Eclipses of the Sun happen once or twice a year. If you stay home, you're likely to see a partial eclipse several times per decade. But since the path of totality is so small it is very unlikely that it will cross you home. So people often travel half way around the world just to see a total solar eclipse. To stand in the shadow of the Moon is an awesome experience. For a few precious minutes it gets dark in the middle of the day. The stars come out. The animals and birds think it's time to sleep. And you can see the solar corona. It is well worth a major journey.
Read more about The Sun l Sun Facts and images. by nineplanets.org
http://nineplanets.org/sol.html
*They are referring to the unseen part of the sun during the eclipse. Same as the unseen parts of the moon.
I will even help you here. Look at all these full moon pictures and tell me if you see a moon sphere (the moon as whole all around) or a moon disc(one side of the moon that appears as a flat circle).

http://www.bing.com/images/search...

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#93766 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
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I will even help you here. Look at all these full moon pictures and tell me if you see a moon sphere (the moon as whole all around) or a moon disc(one side of the moon that appears as a flat circle).
http://www.bing.com/images/search...

Here is yet another example why astronomers use the term disk.
Yes a disk is a round circumference, but we make no mistakes about it's true shape disk means round circular a seemly flat, but this is used to describe the hidden roundness or circumference.

"The period of daytime from the standpoint of a surface observer is roughly defined as the period between sunrise, when the Earth's rotation towards the east first causes the Sun's disc to *appear above the horizon, to sunset, when the continuing rotation of the Earth causes the Sun's disc to *disappear below the horizon to the west. Because the Sun' is a luminous disc as seen from the Earth, rather than a point source of light, sunrise and sunset are not instantaneous and the exact definition of both can vary with context. Additionally, the Earth's atmosphere further diffuses light from the Sun and lengthens the period of sunrise and sunset. For a certain period after sunset and before sunrise, indirect light from the Sun lightens the sky on Earth; this period is often referred to as twilight.

****Certain groups, such as Earthly astronomers, do not consider daytime to be truly ended

*until the Sun's disc is actually well below the Earth's horizon, because of this indirect illumination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_%28astro...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#93767 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
I will even help you here. Look at all these full moon pictures and tell me if you see a moon sphere (the moon as whole all around) or a moon disc(one side of the moon that appears as a flat circle).
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
you are doing it again...proving yourself wrong.

it would seem a disc is a seemingly flat, although round object, doesn't it? you just said it is. previously you tried to say a disc was only a flat object...

which is it?

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Level 8

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#93768 Jun 22, 2013
wedgehead wrote:
<quoted text>
I will even help you here. Look at all these full moon pictures and tell me if you see a moon sphere (the moon as whole all around) or a moon disc(one side of the moon that appears as a flat circle).
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
The point being disk is a seemingly circular flat shape but is used to describe a circumference especially when it is partially or mostly hidden.

When the bible writers wrote it the circle of earth with water above the circle of earth and below and a space bowl shaped to keep the water out, which is described in the book of Enoch as having portals to let rain water from the sky ocean in and wind etc.

It was basically describing a round flat land with a bowl sky over it held up by the sky pillars and the pillars of earth underneath.

"The Old Testament imagined a three-part universe, with heaven (shamayim) above, earth (eres) in the middle, and the underworld (sheol) below,[9] surrounded by the original "waters of chaos", the cosmic ocean, separated by God when he created the world. Only after the 4th century BCE was this replaced by a Greek scientific cosmology of a spherical earth surrounded by multiple concentric heavens."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_cosmolo...

You can't magically change that, this was accepted as the define until after the 13th-15th century when we discovered the earth was round like a ball and you wouldn't sail over the edge.

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