Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168950 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“What U Don't Know U Fear”

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#93303 Jun 19, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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And I already answered your second question, very clearly.
Once again for the slow student: Science does not "need" ToE or any other particular scientific theory. Science i.e. the scientific method, is senior to any particular theory.
That is not dancing, that is directly answering your question.
And my point is this should be your only answer "Science does not "need" ToE". End of story

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#93304 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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And my point is this should be your only answer "Science does not "need" ToE". End of story
Well almost.

Science would then have to find another comprehensive theory explaining the fossil record and other parts of biology, which was consistent with all the evidence and made successful testable predictions.

Nobody has done that yet, so the ToE stands. Its passed every test for 150 years with minor modification. It "needs science" to confirm it, and so far, all of science has, in every other field.

So really, again, do you have a point, other than the obvious one that biology rests on the more basic sciences, which nobody argued with anyway?

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#93305 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Ok. I will break it down to one simple question that maybe you will have the courage to answer.
Does Science need ToE or does ToE need Science?
It does not get any simpler than that. Just answer no babbling BS.
Is your requirement for simplistic answers merely a reflection of your own mental ability? We see that frequently around here among the critics of evolution.

Once again. Science does not "need" ToE or any other particular scientific theory.

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#93306 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Why are you so infatuated with leprechauns? You always talk about them. Have you seen them and are looking for proof of them or have you just done to many bad drugs?
Because leprechauns are more believable than your god.

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#93307 Jun 19, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You can object all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it is the
best explanation of the facts. You have no explanation, so your point is
moot. The only people who find it "controversial" are uneducated morons
who never looked at the evidence.
Likewise.

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#93308 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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AGAIN: Two simple question;
Which has been around longer, Science or the ToE?
Does Science need ToE or does ToE need Science?
Don't babble and/or dance around the questions. Just answer them!
Actually, the theory of evolution began before the scientific method was devised and applied to matters of the natural world.

However, medical science today does depend on the theory of evolution.

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#93309 Jun 19, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Likewise.
Not even close. You have presented no evidence of your god, or that any god has had a hand in the universe at any point. There is more evidence for the theory of evolution than there is for gravity.

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#93310 Jun 19, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Dolt!
If there was not drugs there would be no mules. That's my point!
There will always be drugs. Duh.

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#93311 Jun 19, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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You must know where it (Time) came from if you point you finger at Christians and claim God is a Myth. You must know everything to make this statement.
You claim you don't believe in myths but then you claim to believe in the Big Bang yet now you claim you don't know where time came from. What about matter? Space? Energy? But you believe in the Big Bang, it's your faith.
You might note at this point that it was a *Christian*, a Belgian priest naems Georges Lemaître, that proposed the big bang (though that was not his name for it but rather from a smart ass remark by Fred "747" Hoyle).

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#93312 Jun 19, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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What? You've got to be kidding? Right?
What a DOLT.
Hey, he's on your side.

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#93313 Jun 19, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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A reply worthy from a sexually confused 15yo.
You just don't get it do you?
Time is a physical property! So do you know what this would imply?
It implies that you are talking out your ass. How about you back up this nonsense with some reference to qualified scientists who have taken this position (something you have yet to do). Or are we just to take you word for it?

Are you friends with Jim Ryan?

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#93314 Jun 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I have been on forums for years and have never heard threads referred to as "rooms". Are you sure that this is not a bit of your own idiocy?
"Room" is a term used in chats, ie "chat room". In forums such as this, they are referred to as threads.

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#93315 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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AGAIN: Two simple question;
Which has been around longer, Science or the ToE?
About the same amount of time beginning with the Greeks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolu...
replaytime wrote:
Does Science need ToE or does ToE need Science?
They are inseparable.
replaytime wrote:
Don't babble and/or dance around the questions. Just answer them!
Done!

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#93316 Jun 19, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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This from someone that doesn't even understand time is a physical property, ignorant.
Um, you're wrong " expert", time is a dimension.*rolling eyes*

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#93318 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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And my point is this should be your only answer "Science does not "need" ToE". End of story
When you say science , you forget that includes the scientist...and theory. The answer was science doesn't need any specific theory.
But that's forgetting the scientist. Since the scientist in evolutionary fields needs the theory , because it is a part of science. The answer is yes science needs the ToE in it's curriculum
to educate those who wish to learn. As matter of fact any universally accepted theory is intertwined with science in such a way that the two are inseparable as theories of science.

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#93319 Jun 19, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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"Room" is a term used in chats, ie "chat room". In forums such as this, they are referred to as threads.
You need to Google topix chat rooms. You will see.

Oh also: chat room definition - area in computer network for conversations: a facility in a computer network where participants exchange messages in real time.

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#93320 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You need to Google topix chat rooms. You will see.
Oh also: chat room definition - area in computer network for conversations: a facility in a computer network where participants exchange messages in real time.
This is not real time, bub.

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#93321 Jun 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You need to Google topix chat rooms. You will see.
Those are all threads start by users where they used the term "chat". I can find no reference in the Topix documentation itself where they refer to "chat" or "chat rooms".
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#93322 Jun 19, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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It implies that you are talking out your ass. How about you back up this nonsense with some reference to qualified scientists who have taken this position (something you have yet to do). Or are we just to take you word for it?
Are you friends with Jim Ryan?
No, I don't want you to take my word, but test and verify like you should do with everything.

Find the answer to this question,

"Is time effected by mass and/or acceleration"?

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#93323 Jun 19, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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No, I don't want you to take my word, but test and verify like you should do with everything.
Find the answer to this question,
"Is time effected by mass and/or acceleration"?
Define acceleration, genius. Both are abstract measures.
Does mass affect the measurement?
Is acceleration a measure of motion.
Velocity is physical property.
Mass is a physical property.
The measure of mass in motion, which is momentum.
Is a physical property.
The measure of motion over time is a physical property.
Frequency
Time is an abstract measure of a 4th dimension in linear motion.

But you are welcome to look for yourself and see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_propert...

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