Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Jun 15, 2013
 
Dinoeater wrote:
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ah thanks im new here so i wouldn't know ha ha ha.(epic fail)
Yer welcome.

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Jun 15, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Pffft! most vegetarians only last for a few years.
when are you refering to that we had fewer STDs? how does homosexuality cause STDs?
quite the fantasy world you have invented for yourself...
in my history class we were watching this video about america (i think it was the 80s) in one part it said that is type of std (forgot which one) first began with homosexuals and transexuals. I did not invent it if you want to complain to someone blame the public school and history.
oh and the only ones that last a few years are the ones doing it wrong.

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Jun 15, 2013
 
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no everything you mentioned there is from the old testament. the Jews have the original old testament.
like the New testament is better? a savior that is a total copy from previous religious cults in just about every aspect of his life from the virgin birht to the resurrection?

funny how no one wrote about this god when he was alive. if they actually believed he was a god, or even capable of miracles, they would have wrote down every syllable he uttered, they would have saved his used tissues, they would have sold t-shirts with his picture on it....

none of this happened because they made up the fantastic events of his life from previous cult myths after he died...

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Jun 15, 2013
 
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no I mean if we were vegetarian we wouldn't get sick as much. and lets not forget we did not have many STD's until recently because of homosexuality and adultery. but I guess people try to forget and make excuses.
I agree with "The Dude" on this. meat is good for you. Now you can call me an oddball but I don't and never have eaten fruit. Just don't like it. Vegetables other than potatoes and beans, maybe one serving a month. My diet is meat(any kind but liver), beans, potatoes, bread and pasta's. I am 48 years old been sick twice in the last 30 years (1993 pneumonia and 2004 ear infection).

As far as STD's (gonorrhea, syphilis and chlamydia) well if you look at this CDC link by you can see that teens and early 20's have the highest percent, I am guessing because they are more active and also it shows the older a person gets the less percent they make up. And I am also guessing that most of the cases have nothing to do with homosexuality and adultery.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/health-disparities/age...

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Jun 15, 2013
 
toddy wrote:
Why does it always go to religion? Is evolutionism a religion now or what? It's almost as if they are trying to disprove creation rather than teach science. I don't think it disproves creation at all...I mean, someone/thing had to create this "tree of life" or "common ape-like ancestor" right? Or at least create the elements that set things into motion. Nothing evolves from nothing. Yes, you can quote me on that
You all do know that Darwin was a Christian, right? He even strengthened his faith in God after his research because it only proved to him that we humans know absolutely nothing on the grandest scale.
Why don't you all just tell the real truth and admit that you have no idea about where we came from? What does evolution prove?? Anything at all other than, things change when they have to? DUH! You call that a theory?
ummmm...how can you have creation without religion?

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Jun 15, 2013
 
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in my history class we were watching this video about america (i think it was the 80s) in one part it said that is type of std (forgot which one) first began with homosexuals and transexuals. I did not invent it if you want to complain to someone blame the public school and history.
oh and the only ones that last a few years are the ones doing it wrong.
what does that have to do with history class? must have been one sucky school, huh?

yet you feel confident making this claim off some video you can't name and some STD you can't remember? sounds kind of silly when put in the light of day, doesn't it?
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>like the New testament is better? a savior that is a total copy from previous religious cults in just about every aspect of his life from the virgin birht to the resurrection?
funny how no one wrote about this god when he was alive. if they actually believed he was a god, or even capable of miracles, they would have wrote down every syllable he uttered, they would have saved his used tissues, they would have sold t-shirts with his picture on it....
none of this happened because they made up the fantastic events of his life from previous cult myths after he died...
I never said that the old testament was wrong It's all correct. what he said was since we don't have the original bible we cannot be sure that what the new ones say is correct.
and maybe if he appeared in modern times. but unfortunately they didn't have modern technology back then so yeah. and also why do you think every religion world wide has a some elements from the bible in them? because the bible is real.

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Jun 15, 2013
 
Dinoeater wrote:
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in my history class we were watching this video about america (i think it was the 80s) in one part it said that is type of std (forgot which one) first began with homosexuals and transexuals. I did not invent it if you want to complain to someone blame the public school and history.
oh and the only ones that last a few years are the ones doing it wrong.
In the U.S. when AIDS first appeared it was mostly a homosexual and drug users disease. That was not the case in Africa. The same disease in Africa is a heterosexual disease. The disease is neither hetero or homo sexual, it is behavior that causes the spread of AIDS, not sexuality.

AIDS is a disease that came from "bushmeat". Monkeys and apes killed for food. Blood to blood contact was the cause, not sex with monkeys.

Meanwhile all of the classic venereal diseases have been around for ages.
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Jun 15, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what does that have to do with history class? must have been one sucky school, huh?
yet you feel confident making this claim off some video you can't name and some STD you can't remember? sounds kind of silly when put in the light of day, doesn't it?
I think it was aids....maybe
I put it in the light of day because it happened even though i can't remember the details but I'll try to find out.

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It is health. not new age. and he cites the bible only sometimes. so stop making excuses it's not about religion it's health. what are you so afraid that you were wrong don't worry we all make mistakes.
It's "new age" garbage. Relabeling it does not change the source. Scientifically a balanced diet of meats and veggies results in the healthiest life, that's been demonstrated, not just made up like yours.

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Jun 15, 2013
 
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Gravity (and concrete) challenged the structural integrity of my skull just yesterday.
But that's probably irrelevant.

Trying guess which one is harder, I guessing your head because lol j/k hahahah I' glad you didn't crack that concrete too bad!
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In the U.S. when AIDS first appeared it was mostly a homosexual and drug users disease. That was not the case in Africa. The same disease in Africa is a heterosexual disease. The disease is neither hetero or homo sexual, it is behavior that causes the spread of AIDS, not sexuality.
AIDS is a disease that came from "bushmeat". Monkeys and apes killed for food. Blood to blood contact was the cause, not sex with monkeys.
Meanwhile all of the classic venereal diseases have been around for ages.
well the bible did say there would be plagues and diseases in the end time no? look at swine flu.

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I never said that the old testament was wrong It's all correct. what he said was since we don't have the original bible we cannot be sure that what the new ones say is correct.
and maybe if he appeared in modern times. but unfortunately they didn't have modern technology back then so yeah. and also why do you think every religion world wide has a some elements from the bible in them? because the bible is real.
no, it is not correct in many many ways. he gave you some of those ways.

what would technology have to do with it? people haven't changed that much. if he was a god or even performed miracles, he would have had a following the size of a nation and they would have hung on his every word.

the bible is a work of man, ask GLXT or whatever his moniker is...

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Jun 15, 2013
 
Dinoeater wrote:
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in my history class we were watching this video about america (i think it was the 80s) in one part it said that is type of std (forgot which one) first began with homosexuals and transexuals. I did not invent it if you want to complain to someone blame the public school and history.
oh and the only ones that last a few years are the ones doing it wrong.
In the 80s? We were all idiots back then, seriously. There are no "gay" diseases, and heterosexuals spread STDs, all of them, just as much as gay people. Gay people just get treated more often because they're more aware of the risks.
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Jun 15, 2013
 
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>ummmm...how can you have creation without religion?
huh? I can create a lot of stuff without religion.

I think you meant to ask, "how can you have religion without creation?" That would be a much better and more interesting question. That would put us in the realm of considering religion as something Other than an answer or explanation about where we came from. Which, in fact, it is to most people. Most Christians stopped caring about where they came from when they realized the bible and other media could not really answer this question. Neither can you, neither can "science." Btw, science is not as innocent or predictable as most people think either. Lots of things happen in the scientific world that there is no explanation for. Some of it is very scary.
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KittenKoder wrote:
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It's "new age" garbage. Relabeling it does not change the source. Scientifically a balanced diet of meats and veggies results in the healthiest life, that's been demonstrated, not just made up like yours.
I agree the new age is garbage but you cannot say it comes from the same source if you haven't watched it. also it's like I said the bible is older than the new age. walter veith has demonstrated it. but if you doubt then why don't you try the experiment. try feeding carnivores plants and watch what happens collect the details and give me the data. That's what scientists do after all experiment.
also then why are many important people vegetarian? hmm
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toddy wrote:
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huh? I can create a lot of stuff without religion.
I think you meant to ask, "how can you have religion without creation?" That would be a much better and more interesting question. That would put us in the realm of considering religion as something Other than an answer or explanation about where we came from. Which, in fact, it is to most people. Most Christians stopped caring about where they came from when they realized the bible and other media could not really answer this question. Neither can you, neither can "science." Btw, science is not as innocent or predictable as most people think either. Lots of things happen in the scientific world that there is no explanation for. Some of it is very scary.
easy
once upon a time long ago space was extremely small then for some random reason it expanded. and then molecules started mixing together to form proteins which bonded together to form life. then that life for some strange reason felt like it had to evolve and said to itself " I HAVE THE POWER" and boom it grew other organs and body parts.
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Jun 15, 2013
 
there you have it religion without creation. now believe!
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Jun 15, 2013
 
Dinoeater wrote:
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I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time what are fundies?
Fundamentalists.
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and also my religion is not anti-sex. we do not beleive it is wrong. after all it is god who created male and female and told us to go out and "multiply" if you know what I mean.
Not anti-sex. Anti-sex education. Which is why there are Christian missionaries *right now* in Africa telling everyone condoms cause AIDS, thus propagating a massive health epidemic.
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Jun 15, 2013
 
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Gravity (and concrete) challenged the structural integrity of my skull just yesterday.
But that's probably irrelevant.
Depends. Has it made you more susceptible to fundie apologetics?

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