Evolution vs. Creation

There are 163772 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#90925 May 28, 2013
Jeffersonian wrote:
This controversy is alive and well here in generally conservative southwestern Ohio.
http://www.ohio.com/news/break-news/parents-a...
Although there is CLEARLY a "controversy" in Ohio as it pertains to the Theory of Evolution, it is NOT a SCIENTIFIC controversy, it is a POLITICAL &/or THEOLOGICAL controversy.

Amongst scientists in relevant fields (i.e.: Life or Earth Sciences), there IS NO "CONTROVERSY". Over 99.9% of said professionals in the field accept, support and USE the Theory of Evolution.

Besides, teaching Intelligent Design &/or Creationism in public schools is illegal according to Supreme Court rulings.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#90926 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting...Let us know how it turns out.
Me thought, the fair thing to do is:
*** either teach BOTH or teach NONE***
Science in the science class, mythology in the literature classes, thus evolution in science, religion in literature. There, both being taught as they should be.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90927 May 28, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Although there is CLEARLY a "controversy" in Ohio as it pertains to the Theory of Evolution, it is NOT a SCIENTIFIC controversy, it is a POLITICAL &/or THEOLOGICAL controversy.
Amongst scientists in relevant fields (i.e.: Life or Earth Sciences), there IS NO "CONTROVERSY". Over 99.9% of said professionals in the field accept, support and USE the Theory of Evolution.
Besides, teaching Intelligent Design &/or Creationism in public schools is illegal according to Supreme Court rulings.
and teaching Evolution in public schools may soon be illegal according to the Supreme Court, since it goes against the religious beliefs of most of the people who pay the taxes for the schools.
Jeffersonian

Girard, OH

#90928 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting...Let us know how it turns out.
Me thought, the fair thing to do is:
*** either teach BOTH or teach NONE***

I have severe mixed feelings about what's going on in my community.
I and my family are practicing Christians. I understand and believe in the Jeffersonian principles regarding the separation of church & state. Because this nation is and has always been the world's melting pot, it's only common sense that we as a nation have a public education system that is religion-neutral. Yet at the same time I'm not a big fan of the ACLU and their heavy-handed bullying tactics.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#90929 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
and teaching Evolution in public schools may soon be illegal according to the Supreme Court, since it goes against the religious beliefs of most of the people who pay the taxes for the schools.
The Supreme Court of the US already ruled against creationism, end of story.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90930 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
there is none good but one, that is, God:
This man had 'faith' that Jesus was God so he would be saved by faith thru grace.
This man's false god or idol was money. He worshipped his own wealth more than he loved God.
Has anyone told you about the Flying Spaghetti Monster? If you believe in him you can see him. He will grant you all your deepest wishes; all you have to do is believe he exists and you can have everything you ask for.
The little green men who live on the other side of the moon brought him here from the Holy Planet Purgatory which is in the same solar system as is the planet Kolob.
I am glad I have been the one to bring you to the truth.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90931 May 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh you must mean where as evolutionist take out of context in their own words that it says the earth is flat. It does not say that but that is what you all read. Four corners of the earth, hmmmm maybe N, S, E, and W?
Isaiah 38:8, "Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down."

You believe we should trust a book that tells us the sun went backwards in the sky?

Luke 4:5, "And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time."

No matter how high the mountain was one can not see "all" the kingdoms of the world. Perhaps if the earth were flat this might be remotely possible.

And lastly "n" is not a corner. The earth is round and no matter how many times you insist it is flat with corners you will not change the reality of it.

I had a really stupid pew warming woman pull out a map of the world and point to the four corners of the map and say, "there are your four corners!" The Bible says the four corners of the earth not the four corners of a map.

All this shows how warming pews divorces people from reality.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#90932 May 28, 2013
Jeffersonian wrote:
<quoted text>
I have severe mixed feelings about what's going on in my community.
I and my family are practicing Christians. I understand and believe in the Jeffersonian principles regarding the separation of church & state. Because this nation is and has always been the world's melting pot, it's only common sense that we as a nation have a public education system that is religion-neutral. Yet at the same time I'm not a big fan of the ACLU and their heavy-handed bullying tactics.
Even here?

http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90933 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text> Rev 22:13
We have already established that the Bible is unreliable and can not be trusted to tell us anything.

Who or what created this God of yours. Where did it come from and how did it come into existence?

Quoting unreliable contradictory bible verses does not answer anything.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#90934 May 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey man, do I look like a leader to you?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R-j_-pi-Iek/TWQmRME...
;-p
Well sure, with about $3,000 for a hair style and a suit he might pass for a televangelist. Better make it five grand to cover the coke, hookers and bar tab.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90935 May 28, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
If God is the first Cause no other creators need apply.
Do you have any scientific evidence that the universe had a natural cause? Me neither.
You are living proof that warming pews lowers your IQ.

That is a mighty big 'if' up there.

And if God does not need a creator then neither does the Universe. The Universe has always existed, certainly in a differnt form that we are familiar with today.

Do you understand what a phase transition is? Where liquid water transitions into a solid frozen mass or becomes steam which is neither a solid or a liguid? How does this take place?

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90936 May 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say Jesus' body was buried and Jesus' spirit went to heaven to be with God, his father, so he could forever look upon on and watch over us.
You intentionally missed the point. If Jesus is EVERYWHERE as the Bible tells us, Satan can not leave his presence because there is now where Satan could go that Jesus isn't already there, yet the Bible tells us Satan did just that.

The Bible also tells us that Adam and Eve hid from God, a being that is alledged to be everywhere. That must have been quite a trick, hiding from a being who is EVERYWHERE.

This silly stories are not the words of an all inteligent all knowing being they are nothing more than a collection of ancient Jewish Puppet Plays.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90937 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
The Supreme Court of the US already ruled against creationism, end of story.
It's not even close to the 'end of the story'.

Within the race...It's just a single hurdle you guys have made, but your next jump may be a fall.

You don't realize the more we are stiffled, the harder we push back.

Also, as far as taking away tax exempt status from religious organizations, could actually be your 'downfall'.(What you do by evil, God uses for good.)

By allowing these millions of groups, who were once silenced from their political views, once again to have freedom to do get deeply involved, changing this nation back to its roots.

It is going to allow them to crush their opponents at the voting booths.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90938 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
The Supreme Court of the US already ruled against creationism, end of story.
The Con-artists at the front of the Christian churches are not going to say 'end of story' to all the pew warmers. They are going to tell them homosexuals are taking over the world and if they do not donate money to the cause to stop them they will roast in hell along with them. They try to get elected to school boards so they can plot devious actions against intelligent beings and have access to our children so they can get to them first. Christians might be dumb but they know who ever gets to children first is most likely to snag a new member to the cult.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90939 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>You don't realize the more we are stiffled, the harder we push back..
Which is why I quote the Bible, to prove to everyone how divorced from reality you pew warmers are.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90940 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>Also, as far as taking away tax exempt status from religious organizations, could actually be your 'downfall'.(What you do by evil, God uses for good.)
By allowing these millions of groups, who were once silenced from their political views, once again to have freedom to do get deeply involved, changing this nation back to its roots.
It is going to allow them to crush their opponents at the voting booths.
It may be a while before you pew warmers lose taxation. But you will eventually.

You want to prevent women from voting and re-establish slavery in America? How KKKristian of you.

And this madness of believing voting is moral is replusive and un-American. The majority rule is mob rule and is unAmerican.

Q: What do you call two wolves and one lamb voting on what to eat for lunch?

A: A democracy.

You are advocating a pathetic evil because you are filled with biblical nonsense.

I think we need a law making it illegal for two people of the same religion to get married.
Level 1

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#90941 May 28, 2013
However, there is that part of science that is really nothing more than "theory", the same as the "Theory of Evolution" (1837) scientist whom we all know by the name of "Charles Darwin". Darwin's Theory of Evolution was just that, a "theory".

There was/is very little scientific proof that his theory actually held any water at all except for the fact that partial truths have been manufactured into whole truths to justify Darwin’s “theory”.

Link to the article:
http://www.examiner.com/article/god-s-holy-wo...

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90942 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
and teaching Evolution in public schools may soon be illegal according to the Supreme Court, since it goes against the religious beliefs of most of the people who pay the taxes for the schools.
And to give the most freedom to the most people we should end GOvernment Education and let parents decide for them selves what kind of education their children receive. Then Burger King et. al will be assured of a permanent work force.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Level 1

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90943 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>I keep trying to steer this debate back to science,.
I understand, I got tired of the pew warmers pretending the Bible was perfect and with out error, that their beliefs were consistent and not contradictory. In other words the Pew Warming Community does not realize their schitt stinks.

The only way to show them this is to quote the god-damned bible and have people laugh at them. Of course they immediately tell us the Bible doesn't actually mean what it says, and then they appoint themselves to tell us what God really meant which is always exactly what they themselves already believe.

Apologists are the most dishonest, deceptive and deceitful people upon the whole entire earth.

There are plenty of other threads I can fight fire with fire when dealing with pew warming low IQ'd Christians.

I do wonder though which works better, showing them Science is a reliable work in progress or that their Bible fails them on every subject?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#90944 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting...Let us know how it turns out.
Me thought, the fair thing to do is:
*** either teach BOTH or teach NONE***
No, the obvious thing to do is teach what is true and verified.

If you want religion in your schools have a separate religion class that is an elective choice, not mandated.

Teach truth, not myths.

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