Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 219629 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#90935 May 28, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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If God is the first Cause no other creators need apply.
Do you have any scientific evidence that the universe had a natural cause? Me neither.
You are living proof that warming pews lowers your IQ.

That is a mighty big 'if' up there.

And if God does not need a creator then neither does the Universe. The Universe has always existed, certainly in a differnt form that we are familiar with today.

Do you understand what a phase transition is? Where liquid water transitions into a solid frozen mass or becomes steam which is neither a solid or a liguid? How does this take place?

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#90936 May 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I would say Jesus' body was buried and Jesus' spirit went to heaven to be with God, his father, so he could forever look upon on and watch over us.
You intentionally missed the point. If Jesus is EVERYWHERE as the Bible tells us, Satan can not leave his presence because there is now where Satan could go that Jesus isn't already there, yet the Bible tells us Satan did just that.

The Bible also tells us that Adam and Eve hid from God, a being that is alledged to be everywhere. That must have been quite a trick, hiding from a being who is EVERYWHERE.

This silly stories are not the words of an all inteligent all knowing being they are nothing more than a collection of ancient Jewish Puppet Plays.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90937 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The Supreme Court of the US already ruled against creationism, end of story.
It's not even close to the 'end of the story'.

Within the race...It's just a single hurdle you guys have made, but your next jump may be a fall.

You don't realize the more we are stiffled, the harder we push back.

Also, as far as taking away tax exempt status from religious organizations, could actually be your 'downfall'.(What you do by evil, God uses for good.)

By allowing these millions of groups, who were once silenced from their political views, once again to have freedom to do get deeply involved, changing this nation back to its roots.

It is going to allow them to crush their opponents at the voting booths.

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#90938 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The Supreme Court of the US already ruled against creationism, end of story.
The Con-artists at the front of the Christian churches are not going to say 'end of story' to all the pew warmers. They are going to tell them homosexuals are taking over the world and if they do not donate money to the cause to stop them they will roast in hell along with them. They try to get elected to school boards so they can plot devious actions against intelligent beings and have access to our children so they can get to them first. Christians might be dumb but they know who ever gets to children first is most likely to snag a new member to the cult.

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#90939 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>You don't realize the more we are stiffled, the harder we push back..
Which is why I quote the Bible, to prove to everyone how divorced from reality you pew warmers are.

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#90940 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>Also, as far as taking away tax exempt status from religious organizations, could actually be your 'downfall'.(What you do by evil, God uses for good.)
By allowing these millions of groups, who were once silenced from their political views, once again to have freedom to do get deeply involved, changing this nation back to its roots.
It is going to allow them to crush their opponents at the voting booths.
It may be a while before you pew warmers lose taxation. But you will eventually.

You want to prevent women from voting and re-establish slavery in America? How KKKristian of you.

And this madness of believing voting is moral is replusive and un-American. The majority rule is mob rule and is unAmerican.

Q: What do you call two wolves and one lamb voting on what to eat for lunch?

A: A democracy.

You are advocating a pathetic evil because you are filled with biblical nonsense.

I think we need a law making it illegal for two people of the same religion to get married.
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#90941 May 28, 2013
However, there is that part of science that is really nothing more than "theory", the same as the "Theory of Evolution" (1837) scientist whom we all know by the name of "Charles Darwin". Darwin's Theory of Evolution was just that, a "theory".

There was/is very little scientific proof that his theory actually held any water at all except for the fact that partial truths have been manufactured into whole truths to justify Darwin’s “theory”.

Link to the article:
http://www.examiner.com/article/god-s-holy-wo...

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#90942 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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and teaching Evolution in public schools may soon be illegal according to the Supreme Court, since it goes against the religious beliefs of most of the people who pay the taxes for the schools.
And to give the most freedom to the most people we should end GOvernment Education and let parents decide for them selves what kind of education their children receive. Then Burger King et. al will be assured of a permanent work force.

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#90943 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>I keep trying to steer this debate back to science,.
I understand, I got tired of the pew warmers pretending the Bible was perfect and with out error, that their beliefs were consistent and not contradictory. In other words the Pew Warming Community does not realize their schitt stinks.

The only way to show them this is to quote the god-damned bible and have people laugh at them. Of course they immediately tell us the Bible doesn't actually mean what it says, and then they appoint themselves to tell us what God really meant which is always exactly what they themselves already believe.

Apologists are the most dishonest, deceptive and deceitful people upon the whole entire earth.

There are plenty of other threads I can fight fire with fire when dealing with pew warming low IQ'd Christians.

I do wonder though which works better, showing them Science is a reliable work in progress or that their Bible fails them on every subject?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#90944 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Interesting...Let us know how it turns out.
Me thought, the fair thing to do is:
*** either teach BOTH or teach NONE***
No, the obvious thing to do is teach what is true and verified.

If you want religion in your schools have a separate religion class that is an elective choice, not mandated.

Teach truth, not myths.
Ron Paul Republican 2016

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#90945 May 28, 2013
Born Again Christians promote Creation garbage all the time!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

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#90946 May 28, 2013
SnakeMeister wrote:
However, there is that part of science that is really nothing more than "theory", the same as the "Theory of Evolution" (1837) scientist whom we all know by the name of "Charles Darwin". Darwin's Theory of Evolution was just that, a "theory".
There was/is very little scientific proof that his theory actually held any water at all except for the fact that partial truths have been manufactured into whole truths to justify Darwin’s “theory”.
Link to the article:
http://www.examiner.com/article/god-s-holy-wo...
An op-ed piece by a less-than-unbiased blogger:

http://www.examiner.com/evangelical-in-nation...

"Jake has been interested in biblical prophecy and how current events seem to be aiding the fulfillment of that prophecy for over two decades. The UN and the EU, our own Federal Government, state, county and local governments, and even some school districts seem to be in the clutches of Satan.(Psalm 27:1)“The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?”"
imagine2011

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#90947 May 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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No, the obvious thing to do is teach what is true and verified.
If you want religion in your schools have a separate religion class that is an elective choice, not mandated.
Teach truth, not myths.
When we don't believe what you preach is true....

and...

you don't believe what we preach is true...

then we need either both or none taught in schools.

Fair is fair.

It would give the children a chance to make up their own mind.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

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#90948 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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When we don't believe what you preach is true....
and...
you don't believe what we preach is true...
then we need either both or none taught in schools.
Fair is fair.
It would give the children a chance to make up their own mind.
Then we can teach science (including the Theory of Evolution) in your church on Sunday?

Fair is fair.

“Ask Randy From Ballwin”

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#90949 May 28, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Then we can teach science (including the Theory of Evolution) in your church on Sunday?
Fair is fair.
I totally agree 100%. You should be able to teach evolution in church. Get a class room in church and teach evolution and let anyone that "wants" to come, come to it. It will be by choice not by "have to" or "force".

“See how you are?”

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#90950 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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When we don't believe what you preach is true....
and...
you don't believe what we preach is true...
then we need either both or none taught in schools.
Fair is fair.
It would give the children a chance to make up their own mind.
We agree, then.
Fair is fair. No religion in public schools. Not Paganism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Shinto, et al.
Teach what is evidenced and real - like physics, astronomy, paleontology, anthropology, unbiased verifiable history and biology - you know, all that "weird" stuff that lodges, churches, mosques and temples don't.

“Day is Day”

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#90951 May 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I totally agree 100%. You should be able to teach evolution in church. Get a class room in church and teach evolution and let anyone that "wants" to come, come to it. It will be by choice not by "have to" or "force".
Are you kidding? That would be like putting Lions and Antelope together. Get a clue! LOL

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#90952 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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When we don't believe what you preach is true....
and...
you don't believe what we preach is true...
then we need either both or none taught in schools.
Fair is fair.
It would give the children a chance to make up their own mind.
Wrong, then which gets taught is dependent upon the evidence for each one.

We keep asking you for evidence. We have explained why the tragically flawed Bible cannot be used as evidence. You need scientific evidence, not nonsense. when you are debating science.

Science is not a rigged game against creation. It is a rigged game against false ideas. It is not our fault that your ideas are faulty.

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#90953 May 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I totally agree 100%. You should be able to teach evolution in church. Get a class room in church and teach evolution and let anyone that "wants" to come, come to it. It will be by choice not by "have to" or "force".
Nope, to be fair, all members will have to come. Attendance at schools is mandatory, if you want to be fair then the members of your church's attendance would be mandatory.

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#90954 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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Are you kidding? That would be like putting Lions and Antelope together. Get a clue! LOL
Now you are starting to understand.

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