Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Anti Born Again Christian

Sparks, NV

#90895 May 28, 2013
Because the truth set all of us free!: http://www.topix.com/forum/us/TKIQGO03GH2INU6...
Anti Born Again Christian

Sparks, NV

#90896 May 28, 2013
Evolution 1 Creationism 0
Anti Born Again Christian

Sparks, NV

#90897 May 28, 2013
Evolution 1 Creation 0
Anti Born Again Christian

Sparks, NV

#90898 May 28, 2013
Evolution wins!
Anti Born Again Christian

Sparks, NV

#90899 May 28, 2013
Evolution wins again!

“Day is Day”

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Night is Night

#90900 May 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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In the meantime here's a dose of reality demonstrating that evolution IS science:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...
WOW!!!!! A gossip forum for proof of reality. Bravo! Bravo!
Do you still believe in heaven and hell?
Do you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny?
I am sure I can find a forum on those if you would like. LMAO

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#90901 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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WOW!!!!! A gossip forum for proof of reality. Bravo! Bravo!
Do you still believe in heaven and hell?
Do you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny?
I am sure I can find a forum on those if you would like. LMAO
His sources check out, where are your sources?

“Day is Day”

Level 3

Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90902 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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His sources check out, where are your sources?
Here is one for Santa http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-claus-i...

Here is one for the Easter Bunny http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pomeroy-oh/TU...
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90903 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
The Blood and the Shroud: New Evidence That the World's Most ...

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The Blood and the Shroud: New Evidence That the World's Most Sacred Relic is Real [Ian Wilson] on Amazon.com .*FREE* super saver shipping on qualifying ...

Shroud of Turin Real? Debate Resurrected | LiveScience

www.livescience.com/28276-shroud-of-turin.htm... ;

by Marc Lallanilla - in 20 Google+ circlesMar 28, 2013 – That doesn't mean the shroud is evidence of a miracle, however,...of this, there is nothing in history that proves any part of the story was real.

Definative Shroud of Turin FAQ

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And claims that the Shroud is somehow evidence of a miracle, even specifically the ... The biggest problem in deciding if the Shroud is authentic is overcoming ... Science has succeeded in proving that the images were not painted and are not ...

Is the Shroud of Turin Real?| History | Science - Truth Be Known

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The shroud is held up by believers as evidence not only of Christ's existence but also...Although true believers keep attempting to prove otherwise, through one...

Shroud of Turin - evidence it is authentic; the real shroud of Jesus ...

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...with microscopic and microchemical observations prove that the radiocarbon... The radiocarbon date was thus not valid for determining the true age of the....The Shroud is clearly not a painting; no evidence of pigments or media was found.

Christian Approach - Shroud Encounter

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There is no attempt to “prove” the Shroud authentic, but the message of Christ is clearly presented as the evidence is examined. A Visual Gospel? The possibility...

Shroud Of Turin Real? New Research Dates Relic To 1st Century ...

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Mar 28, 2013 – Believed by some to have been Jesus' burial cloth, the Shroud has been ...Shroud of Turin Is Real, Scientists Claim, Citing New Evidence,....nothing and certainly doesn't prove that the shroud has anything to do with Jesus.

The Shroud - New Evidence

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The fact of this negative image alone is enough evidence to prove that the shroud is not a painted forgery. Additionally, while the image is negative, the blood...

New Evidence For The Shroud Of Turin (Messianic Literary Corner)

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The Shroud of Turin has been venerated for centuries as the true burial...There is now conclusive evidence proving the sample used to date the Shroud was...

Turin Shroud 'could be genuine as carbon-dating was flawed ...

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Apr 10, 2009 – New evidence suggests the Turin Shroud could have been the cloth in which...very close to proving the shroud was used to bury the historic Jesus."...that it was real, after the first scientific tests found evidence of blood and...

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“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#90904 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
We are because we are; the best answer anyone can give because no one really knows. Helll we can't even figure out how people of today completely work but yet we claim to have figured out the past for millions even billions of years and how it happened! What a Fcking Joke! We can't even explore the bottom of our own ocean but yet we are going to conquer space? What a Fcking joke! It all is a money scam. If they can’t find/prove facts then they falsify studies and make shiit up to keep the funds rolling and keep their high paying cushy job. SMHATS
http://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/evo...
http://listverse.com/2008/04/09/top-10-scient...
http://www.neatorama.com/2006/09/19/10scienti...
What you described is religion, not science

BTW... who do you suppose exposed those frauds/hoaxes? Hint: it wasn't religion

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#90905 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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Here is one for Santa http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-claus-i...
Here is one for the Easter Bunny http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pomeroy-oh/TU...
No reliable sources are present in those, I fail to see the similarity.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#90906 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The Blood and the Shroud...
Blah, blah, blah.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#90907 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW!!!!! A gossip forum for proof of reality. Bravo! Bravo!
Do you still believe in heaven and hell?
Do you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny?
I am sure I can find a forum on those if you would like. LMAO
Great. You found me the forums. But none of them had evidence.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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Since: Dec 10

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#90908 May 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Maybe not an intentional fraud but the carbon dating has yet to be overturned.
http://www.shroud.com/nature.htm
There is also this, a verified 1st century burial shroud.
It doesn't match, but does match medieval cloth.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/...

“Day is Day”

Level 3

Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90909 May 28, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>What you described is religion, not science
BTW... who do you suppose exposed those frauds/hoaxes? Hint: it wasn't religion
Where do I describe religion in my post?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90910 May 28, 2013
imagine, Gish Gallops are not allowed in proper debates. You made far too many claims in that spiel of yours about the Shroud. To debunk the whole list I only have to choose one.

Do you want me to do that? If I can find one flawed article the whole splat is worthless. Or would you rather discuss them one at a time?

So retract that mess with a promise not to do so again or I will find at least one article with a fatal flaw in it.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90911 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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Where do I describe religion in my post?
The religion of loons is very often self evident.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#90912 May 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> There is also this, a verified 1st century burial shroud.
It doesn't match, but does match medieval cloth.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/...
The thing about this new claim is deceptive, which suggests it's hype. It cites the 1988 carbon date may have been skewed and
"new research" indicates it's from the 1st century.
Note it does not say new carbon dating puts in in the first century.
This is exactly the kind of dishonesty we are used to...
coming from believers. Now not that a new carbon test wouldn't or couldn't find it was from first century, but that it's not new carbon dating that has. It is relying on the patched portion hypothesis and not on conclusive evidence.

All in all the evidence leads you to think the only thing that keeps it authentic is "belief" it is authentic.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90913 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
imagine, Gish Gallops are not allowed in proper debates. You made far too many claims in that spiel of yours about the Shroud. To debunk the whole list I only have to choose one.
Do you want me to do that? If I can find one flawed article the whole splat is worthless. Or would you rather discuss them one at a time?
So retract that mess with a promise not to do so again or I will find at least one article with a fatal flaw in it.
We can debate the Shroud forever and neither one of us can prove which "article" is true or false.

We can only give our personal beliefs.

“Day is Day”

Level 3

Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90914 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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The religion of loons is very often self evident.
So you stance is very clear and easy to figure out. You have no idea where I stand but since you don't you just "assume" and start running me down. What a great way to get people on your side to support you. SMH

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