Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 201222 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#90904 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
We are because we are; the best answer anyone can give because no one really knows. Helll we can't even figure out how people of today completely work but yet we claim to have figured out the past for millions even billions of years and how it happened! What a Fcking Joke! We can't even explore the bottom of our own ocean but yet we are going to conquer space? What a Fcking joke! It all is a money scam. If they can’t find/prove facts then they falsify studies and make shiit up to keep the funds rolling and keep their high paying cushy job. SMHATS
http://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/evo...
http://listverse.com/2008/04/09/top-10-scient...
http://www.neatorama.com/2006/09/19/10scienti...
What you described is religion, not science

BTW... who do you suppose exposed those frauds/hoaxes? Hint: it wasn't religion

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#90905 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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Here is one for Santa http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-claus-i...
Here is one for the Easter Bunny http://www.topix.com/forum/city/pomeroy-oh/TU...
No reliable sources are present in those, I fail to see the similarity.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#90906 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The Blood and the Shroud...
Blah, blah, blah.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#90907 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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WOW!!!!! A gossip forum for proof of reality. Bravo! Bravo!
Do you still believe in heaven and hell?
Do you still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny?
I am sure I can find a forum on those if you would like. LMAO
Great. You found me the forums. But none of them had evidence.

“Wrath”

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Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#90908 May 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Maybe not an intentional fraud but the carbon dating has yet to be overturned.
http://www.shroud.com/nature.htm
There is also this, a verified 1st century burial shroud.
It doesn't match, but does match medieval cloth.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/...

“Day is Day”

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Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90909 May 28, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>What you described is religion, not science
BTW... who do you suppose exposed those frauds/hoaxes? Hint: it wasn't religion
Where do I describe religion in my post?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90910 May 28, 2013
imagine, Gish Gallops are not allowed in proper debates. You made far too many claims in that spiel of yours about the Shroud. To debunk the whole list I only have to choose one.

Do you want me to do that? If I can find one flawed article the whole splat is worthless. Or would you rather discuss them one at a time?

So retract that mess with a promise not to do so again or I will find at least one article with a fatal flaw in it.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90911 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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Where do I describe religion in my post?
The religion of loons is very often self evident.

“Wrath”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#90912 May 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> There is also this, a verified 1st century burial shroud.
It doesn't match, but does match medieval cloth.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/...
The thing about this new claim is deceptive, which suggests it's hype. It cites the 1988 carbon date may have been skewed and
"new research" indicates it's from the 1st century.
Note it does not say new carbon dating puts in in the first century.
This is exactly the kind of dishonesty we are used to...
coming from believers. Now not that a new carbon test wouldn't or couldn't find it was from first century, but that it's not new carbon dating that has. It is relying on the patched portion hypothesis and not on conclusive evidence.

All in all the evidence leads you to think the only thing that keeps it authentic is "belief" it is authentic.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90913 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
imagine, Gish Gallops are not allowed in proper debates. You made far too many claims in that spiel of yours about the Shroud. To debunk the whole list I only have to choose one.
Do you want me to do that? If I can find one flawed article the whole splat is worthless. Or would you rather discuss them one at a time?
So retract that mess with a promise not to do so again or I will find at least one article with a fatal flaw in it.
We can debate the Shroud forever and neither one of us can prove which "article" is true or false.

We can only give our personal beliefs.

“Day is Day”

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Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90914 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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The religion of loons is very often self evident.
So you stance is very clear and easy to figure out. You have no idea where I stand but since you don't you just "assume" and start running me down. What a great way to get people on your side to support you. SMH

“Day is Day”

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Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90915 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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The religion of loons is very often self evident.
So I guess I can assume you are a loon as well. No matter what you believe for you act like an @ss.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#90916 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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Where do I describe religion in my post?
http://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/lis...

And this is why:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/A_Scientific_Dis...

Never mind the fact your link is itself internally inconsistent, as WELL as contradicting your subsequent linkys in the same post.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#90917 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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We can debate the Shroud forever and neither one of us can prove which "article" is true or false.
We can only give our personal beliefs.
When it comes to matters of theology, perhaps. When it comes to matters of science, no, only you can give your personal beliefs.

Evidence is not relevant for your position.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90918 May 28, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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We can debate the Shroud forever and neither one of us can prove which "article" is true or false.
We can only give our personal beliefs.
Wrong. If one side is using garbage resources, which I assure you that you are, it can be very clear which side is right and which side is wrong.

I keep trying to steer this debate back to science, by the way who woulda thunk that you would use science in a scientific debate, is because the world of science has a way of checking itself. It is called peer review.

Creationists avoid peer review like the plague. Certain sites have developed their own "peer review" which is nothing more than a creatard circle jerk. Real peer review is a scary process even for real scientists. That is why it scares the bejeebers out of creatards.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#90919 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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So you stance is very clear and easy to figure out. You have no idea where I stand but since you don't you just "assume" and start running me down. What a great way to get people on your side to support you. SMH
Yes we do. You're a nihilist standing in sh t.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90920 May 28, 2013
briky wrote:
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So I guess I can assume you are a loon as well. No matter what you believe for you act like an @ss.
Nope, that is simply you projecting your faults upon others.

You have shown yourself to be a loon in several ways. You should embrace the fact that you are a loon instead of running away from it.

“Day is Day”

Level 3

Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90921 May 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Nope, that is simply you projecting your faults upon others.
You have shown yourself to be a loon in several ways. You should embrace the fact that you are a loon instead of running away from it.
What faults have I projected upon others. This should be interesting to see what you make up.
Jeffersonian

Cleveland, OH

#90922 May 28, 2013
This controversy is alive and well here in generally conservative southwestern Ohio.

http://www.ohio.com/news/break-news/parents-a...

“Day is Day”

Level 3

Since: May 13

Night is Night

#90923 May 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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http://evolutionisntscience.wordpress.com/lis...
And this is why:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/A_Scientific_Dis...
Never mind the fact your link is itself internally inconsistent, as WELL as contradicting your subsequent linkys in the same post.
And again those are links "YOU" "The DUDE" posted. Not I. Try again.

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