Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Yes, but that's because we cannot give the same label to the same species otherwise there would be too much confusion. However a bird's greatx10000000 father was a dinosaur.
Feb. 10, 2010 — A new study just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences provides yet more evidence that birds did not descend from ground-dwelling theropod dinosaurs, experts say, and continues to challenge decades of accepted theories about the evolution of flight.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/...

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The US is also one of the most corrupt nations as well. The people in the US thrive on greed and material things. They will lie, cheat, steal, and even kill to get them.
That is kind of an ambiguous statement, don't cha think? You can't speak for all, as I am nothing like what you have just described above. I do belive the US government is corrupt though, has been for years...

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You didn't answer any of my questions, you just twisted words to fit your view, and as usual, you had to throw some unkind and unnecessary jabs.
TJ's letter did not tell the meaning of the ultimate law for our country. LOL!
It was about the Government pushing their own religion and rules of faith on people.
If the government wouldn't have done that (just like the King did in England), TJ would never had to write the letter.
In actuality and historically, Religion and Government just don’t mix well.
In a country of free speech and free choice on religion, it's better to practice and enforce none rather than all. A public school may want little Johnny to pray before class, but what about little Timmy who would rather kneel facing East every day at 12:00? Or little Mikey' s special needs to stand and pray to Allah every morning? Not that a school is necessarily agnostic, but it's just more logical to eliminate religion altogether from school.

How would you feel about a President who fully believed in scientology? Would you trust this man's ability to make sound decisions? Many feel the same way about a President who's openly Christian.

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Feb. 10, 2010 — A new study just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences provides yet more evidence that birds did not descend from ground-dwelling theropod dinosaurs, experts say, and continues to challenge decades of accepted theories about the evolution of flight.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/...
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It's still descended from a dinosaur, or did you not read it all?
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If there were no religion anywhere on earth it would be a beautiful world.

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Feb. 10, 2010 — A new study just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences provides yet more evidence that birds did not descend from ground-dwelling theropod dinosaurs, experts say, and continues to challenge decades of accepted theories about the evolution of flight.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/...
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Since you did not understand the article I will give an extreme dumbed down version for you. There is no debate that birds are the descendants of dinosaurs. The debate is which dinosaurs they are the descendants of. This article shows that the evidence is mounting for birds being descended from tree climbing dinosaurs, not ground dwelling dinosaurs.

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Feb. 10, 2010 — A new study just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences provides yet more evidence that birds did not descend from ground-dwelling theropod dinosaurs, experts say, and continues to challenge decades of accepted theories about the evolution of flight.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/...
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"...that birds may have had an ancient common ancestor with dinosaurs, but they evolved separately on their own path, and after millions of years of separate evolution birds also gave rise to the raptors."

Common ancestor. So what's the problem?
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"...that birds may have had an ancient common ancestor with dinosaurs, but they evolved separately on their own path, and after millions of years of separate evolution birds also gave rise to the raptors."
Common ancestor. So what's the problem?
Just pointing out that the accepted notion that birds came from dinosaurs is in dispute and the word "may" sounds like the authors are doing a bit of speculating. Just saying.

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Yeah, bummer. A whack job group takes a whack job poll.
How valid is that?
Not very.
Apparently anyone that doesn't agree with you is a whack job. Are you sure your plates aren't rubbing together too tightly?

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If there were no religion anywhere on earth it would be a beautiful world.
http://www.finewebstores.com/zoomify.asp...
Not necessarily, that is the problem. Originally religion was government, it was not as nuts as it is today, either. What happened is that the con artists became the religious leaders when other governments formed to replace them, when they should have just been deemed obsolete and placed in their rightful place as superstition. It was the old religions, the ones often attacked and destroyed by the modern ones and called "evil" that gave us government and organized society.

So yes, if there were no religion today it would be a more peaceful world, but without religion in the past, there would be no human society and thus, no humans alive today.
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It's still descended from a dinosaur, or did you not read it all?
"Ruben said, but that some species now believed to be dinosaurs may have descended from birds."

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"Ruben said, but that some species now believed to be dinosaurs may have descended from birds."
That does not change that birds descended from dinosaurs. You are still attempting to state that evolution is directional, so again, you betray you know nothing of the subject that was not gleaned from creationist websites.

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Apparently anyone that doesn't agree with you is a whack job. Are you sure your plates aren't rubbing together too tightly?
No, not everyone. This was obviously a biased poll. Polls are supposed to be unbiased to have any validity.

Perhaps you could link to the poll. You linked to a biased site that supposedly took the poll. Without seeing the poll I cannot really identify the flaws in it.

Put it this way, would you trust a poll proposed and taken by the Democrat party?

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"...that birds may have had an ancient common ancestor with dinosaurs, but they evolved separately on their own path, and after millions of years of separate evolution birds also gave rise to the raptors."
Common ancestor. So what's the problem?
The problem is that your understanding of the information doesn't agree with his misinterpretation of it

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Please show me where the words "separation of church and state" are mentioned in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or Declaration of Independence.
I know plenty of children that will burn in hell because of your indoctrination of your monkey religion.
Do I need to quote the 1st amendment to you?

How christian of you. Threatening people with hell. Your jeebus would be proud.
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That does not change that birds descended from dinosaurs. You are still attempting to state that evolution is directional, so again, you betray you know nothing of the subject that was not gleaned from creationist websites.
Science Daily isn't a creationist site. You know the site that pointed out you may have gotten it backwards.

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There is a long silence in heaven when the damned are judged, for this is the last sadness endured. No one wants anyone to perish and there is a time set aside for grieving for the lost souls who are sent to hell.
Rev. 8:1
Now when the Lamb opened the seventh seal there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
Ahahhahahah. Wow. Thanks for the laugh.
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<quoted text>The problem is that your understanding of the information doesn't agree with his misinterpretation of it
Or scientific paranoia created a problem where none existed. LOL.

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Science Daily isn't a creationist site. You know the site that pointed out you may have gotten it backwards.
You can quote from another source, but your implications do not agree with the source you are quoting, thus your only real source is the creationist sites.
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Not necessarily, that is the problem. Originally religion was government, it was not as nuts as it is today, either. What happened is that the con artists became the religious leaders when other governments formed to replace them, when they should have just been deemed obsolete and placed in their rightful place as superstition. It was the old religions, the ones often attacked and destroyed by the modern ones and called "evil" that gave us government and organized society.
So yes, if there were no religion today it would be a more peaceful world, but without religion in the past, there would be no human society and thus, no humans alive today.
I should have made myself clear. If there were no religion TODAY.

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