Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“If It Is Possible”

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#90794 May 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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His point was that they did not call boxes "squares" in the past. I think you misread this part of the article.
here it is word for word. I just read what was there.

Finally, just think for one second logically about what may have gone on when Isaiah was written. What the writer of Isaiah would have seen when he looked at the Moon, was not a sphere but a circle! What did he see if he was game enough to take a glimpse at the Sun, that’s right a circle. Is it not more probably that the writer of Isaiah was simply making an inference from observations he had made previously about the universe and the Earth specifically? Seems logical to me, is it?

It was after I had made all the previous points that this one particular Christian pointed out that a circle and sphere are the same, wow, I know, but it’s so sadly true. He then tried to elaborate,”What is a box?”, my reply ”It’s a cube, it is three dimensional”, he said,”It’s a square” and I nearly fell over. I know this is hard to believe but it is oh so true

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90795 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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here it is word for word. I just read what was there.
Finally, just think for one second logically about what may have gone on when Isaiah was written. What the writer of Isaiah would have seen when he looked at the Moon, was not a sphere but a circle! What did he see if he was game enough to take a glimpse at the Sun, that’s right a circle. Is it not more probably that the writer of Isaiah was simply making an inference from observations he had made previously about the universe and the Earth specifically? Seems logical to me, is it?
It was after I had made all the previous points that this one particular Christian pointed out that a circle and sphere are the same, wow, I know, but it’s so sadly true. He then tried to elaborate,”What is a box?”, my reply ”It’s a cube, it is three dimensional”, he said,”It’s a square” and I nearly fell over. I know this is hard to believe but it is oh so true
Yes, and you forgot the rest of it:

" I have never blogged before this being my first time. I have commented others blogs occasionally, but I was so irritated at this reasoning that I just had to write down my thoughts and decided I should join the other bloggers and post them. I did try to explain further that a cube can be made of 6 squares but it is not a square. At that point I realized I was getting nowhere and decided to end the conversation. These people were not open to evidence and reason and simply dismissed others with no proof of their own as they often remarked ”You have to have faith”."

A cube is not a square. If you are far enough away from a cube it practically never looks like a square. Yet, if you are far enough away from a sphere it looks like a circle. If you make a two dimensional projection of a cube it will usually have six sides. Only if you are looking dead on at a flat surface will you see only four edges.

“If It Is Possible”

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#90796 May 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, and you forgot the rest of it:
" I have never blogged before this being my first time. I have commented others blogs occasionally, but I was so irritated at this reasoning that I just had to write down my thoughts and decided I should join the other bloggers and post them. I did try to explain further that a cube can be made of 6 squares but it is not a square. At that point I realized I was getting nowhere and decided to end the conversation. These people were not open to evidence and reason and simply dismissed others with no proof of their own as they often remarked ”You have to have faith”."
A cube is not a square. If you are far enough away from a cube it practically never looks like a square. Yet, if you are far enough away from a sphere it looks like a circle. If you make a two dimensional projection of a cube it will usually have six sides. Only if you are looking dead on at a flat surface will you see only four edges.
I read that but I don't agree. If I took a box and a flat square stood up(end of a box and set them 100 yards from you would be pressed to tell which one was which by looking directly at them.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90797 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I read that but I don't agree. If I took a box and a flat square stood up(end of a box and set them 100 yards from you would be pressed to tell which one was which by looking directly at them.
That is only because you looked at it in the one aspect where I said it would look like a square. Look at it from a random orientation and odds are that it will have six edges, not four.

“If It Is Possible”

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#90798 May 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, and you forgot the rest of it:
" I have never blogged before this being my first time. I have commented others blogs occasionally, but I was so irritated at this reasoning that I just had to write down my thoughts and decided I should join the other bloggers and post them. I did try to explain further that a cube can be made of 6 squares but it is not a square. At that point I realized I was getting nowhere and decided to end the conversation. These people were not open to evidence and reason and simply dismissed others with no proof of their own as they often remarked ”You have to have faith”."
A cube is not a square. If you are far enough away from a cube it practically never looks like a square. Yet, if you are far enough away from a sphere it looks like a circle. If you make a two dimensional projection of a cube it will usually have six sides. Only if you are looking dead on at a flat surface will you see only four edges.
The box would be like an optical illusion as the things in this video. Now is it real or not? I don't know for I am not there. But it is cool!
KJV

United States

#90799 May 27, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
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Agreed
Does Evolution contradict the Bible?
Is it possible to believe in evolution and still be a Christian?
If being a Christian means believing that the Bible is the authentic, trustworthy Word of God and that Christ is our Creator and Savior, the answer is “No.” One cannot believe these things and also believe in evolution as the explanation for the origin of life on our earth as we know it.
"

Why would anyone need to "believe" in evolution?

That's a bit like needing to believe in concrete. Or that if I drop this here bowling ball, it's not going to fall up.
It never happened.

“If It Is Possible”

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#90800 May 27, 2013
Now if you look close you can see what looks like a shadow from the rubix cube, the tape and the shoe and what ever the picture is, is not in the background until after the picture changes then the prior is setting in the background..
KJV

United States

#90801 May 27, 2013
MikeF wrote:
By the way, KJV, thanks for the shit-storm of spam. Duane Gish would be so proud.
He asked for evidence for the flood.
So I gave him a very small sample.
I can't help it that there is so much evidence for the flood.
KJV

United States

#90802 May 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Never failed,
http://www.bethlehemstar.net/
For centuries, believers, scoffers and the curious have wondered at the Biblical account of the Star of Bethlehem. The Bible recounts unusual or even impossible astronomical events at Christ’s birth. For many doubters, the account of the Star is easily dismissed as myth. For many believers, it’s a mystery accepted on faith. But what happens if we combine current scriptural accounts, astronomical fact and a desire for truth? The Star of Bethlehem documents the search to understand how the Lord used the stars and planets to reveal His plans for Christ’s birth. Uncover the mystery for yourself.
From Producer Stephen McEveety, The Passion Of The Christ
http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/produc...
"

The star of Bethlehem never happened, it is a Christian myth or more exactly a lie. They actually believe 3 kings from vastly different areas of the world got together and followed a star for thousands of miles because they knew it was a Jewish omen. Also, the star would've been in the west, not the east. A star does not stand over a certain place. The star in the east did appear on January 6, 1984 which is 3 kings day in Puerto Rico. The kings of the east and the west were at a summit close by and they visited the Messiah after seeing the article in the newspaper. It was a very large 6 pointed star in the eastern sky and they recognized it as a sign because it was popularized by Christianity.
Wrong again. It was before you were born though, maybe that's why you're so confused.
KJV

United States

#90803 May 27, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
http://www.grandcanyontreks.org/geology2.htm
"Inevitably, some of these visitors will turn to a park ranger and ask: "How did the Grand Canyon get formed? Why did this happen here and nowhere else?"
The honest answer is that nobody knows. One hundred and thirty-one years after John Wesley Powell first mapped the Colorado River by riding its 161 rapids in heavy wooden boats, no one can prove how the canyon was formed.
But it is not for lack of trying.
Geologists are puzzle freaks who love nothing more than collecting fragmentary clues -- clumps of gravel, fossilized shells and pollens, the dates that muddy sediments were deposited in dried-up lakes or whole mountain ranges were lifted -- and then trying desperately to figure out how the modern topography before their eyes was produced.
More.....
The modern Colorado appears to be a young river that flows out of the Rockies and hits a huge plateau, called the Kaibab Upwarp, which is 50 million to 70 million years old. Instead of being shunted away from this barrier, the river runs right through it. Moreover, when sediments from the river are examined closely, it is clear that the western end of the canyon -- where it flattens out and begins its final run to the Gulf of California -- is many millions of years younger than the eastern part of the river.
To many experts, this difference means that the Grand Canyon could have been cobbled together from ancient river basins that were created during different geologic eras. But if so, when and how were those ancient rivers formed and where did they go?
"

The Grand Canyon was formed over millions of years by the action of the Colorado River. If you have a simple question, you should just ask.
Nope, rivers can't flow up hill.
Never could and there for the Colorado river never made that canyon.

Look it up dolt!

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Everett, WA

#90804 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
The box would be like an optical illusion as the things in this video. Now is it real or not? I don't know for I am not there. But it is cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tBNHPk-LnkkXX
Cool video. Yes, the box would be similar to the "Rubik's Cube". Pause it at 15 seconds and count the number of lines around the outside. You will see that there are six lines at apporximately 15 seconds.
KJV

United States

#90805 May 27, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Unless it's a Holy Apache I'm not impressed.
No, it's the Holy Hand Grenade.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90806 May 27, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Wrong again. It was before you were born though, maybe that's why you're so confused.[/QUOTE]The star in the east appeared on Friday evening, January 6, 1984 and was a huge six pointed star containing a cross-X. Ronald Reagan and Zao Zyoung of China were at a summit in Williamsburg at the time. The prophecy says they were close by. At the same time, I appeared in the newspaper and was publically humiliated and the two kings drove down in a limo just to see and I chased them away. January 6 also happens to be three kings day in Puerto Rico.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#90807 May 27, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
He asked for evidence for the flood.
So I gave him a very small sample.
I can't help it that there is so much evidence for the flood.[/QUOTE]

There is NO scientifically valid evidence for a world-wide flood at ANY time in history

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Evolution is true.....

#90808 May 27, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>There's a reason certain books were not canonized. Sometimes their validity or authenticity was suspect. I have a copy of the Apocrypha but don't give it much weight, it was written by Christians. Angels cannot procreate, that is a fact. They don't have the organs to do so.
The four books of the Gospels are known to be written by anonymous authors. These authors were NOT eyewitnesses to what they wrote about and yet they were placed in the Bible.

One New Testament scholar has said that we may not even have the real words of Jesus because of this. What was eventually placed in the Bible had more to do with politics than anything else.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90809 May 27, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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The four books of the Gospels are known to be written by anonymous authors. These authors were NOT eyewitnesses to what they wrote about and yet they were placed in the Bible.
One New Testament scholar has said that we may not even have the real words of Jesus because of this. What was eventually placed in the Bible had more to do with politics than anything else.
You're right, and their names were not Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They chose those names because they fulfilled prophecy. Mark and John were friends and neighbors of the Messiah, Matthew and Luke were fraternity brothers of Adam who hung themselves in January 1984. Zechariah 11:8. The NT is not even remotely inspired by God, it is the book of Satan. Job 31:35.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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The Borderland of Sol

#90810 May 28, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Sub I understand what you are saying. But you all bring up biology, geology, algebra, geometry ect ect. One thing is those did not exist back in the biblical days. They were simple people with simple minds and ways. Ask any preschool kid the shape of a ball and 99.9% of them will tell you it is a circle. That's about what their mental capability was like back then. A preschooler compared to a professor now days. That is a silly comparison but again they were simple people that did not know a lot.
They were well familiar with the concept of "orb" or "ball". If they lacked the word "sphere", there are others.

Oh, and it's "etc", not "ect". It's an abbreviation of "et cetera".

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Seffner, FL

#90811 May 28, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
He asked for evidence for the flood.
So I gave him a very small sample.
I can't help it that there is so much evidence for the flood.[/QUOTE]

Funny. Ever consider a career as a standup comic?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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The Borderland of Sol

#90812 May 28, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Funny. Ever consider a career as a standup comic?
ell, he's never gonna make it as a geologist.
OOOOObama

Kingston, PA

#90813 May 28, 2013
What are your opinions on the Shroud of Turin? Have any of you researched into it, honestly? On Wikipedia, in the "Recent developments" section of the Shroud of Turin article, even some agnostics believe that the Shroud is genuine. If it's genuine, how could the face and EVERYTHING be so perfect, short of a miracle? This would be impossible to deny. You would HAVE to believe in Jesus! If such a miracle as this is possible, then so would be the other miracles, such as the Resurrection. After all, this isn't just Jesus' blood randomly splattered on a linen cloth, rather, it actually forms a FACE -- the face of Jesus Christ Himself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin

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