Evolution vs. Creation

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#90723 May 27, 2013
We come from apes. https://www.google.com/search ... Look at these bone structures. And look at the tail bone!! What would humans need a tail bone for, if it weren't due to some prior evolution? Even some babies today are born with tails! And that's just one thing, out of a countless wealth of information proving we evolved.

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#90724 May 27, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>So this weak reply tells me that you really don't know, but are just offering conjecture. Conjecture doesn't support much no matter how you try.
If you are claiming that they ment N, S, E, and W, it is your responsibility to defend it not mine. I have already pointed out what you would have to show in order to defend it. Since you have ignored that, I can only conclude that you can't defend it. I have no more need to prove anything than that.
Aren't you glad you stalked me to this forum. You might actually learn something here, though I doubt it.
You called it wrong so it is your place to prove it wrong. A I said MAYBE? Which means I don't know for sure and I am not afraid to say so. But for you to call it wrong, where is your proof?

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#90725 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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The words the bible speaks that are believed to be speaking of dinosaurs are Tanniyn, Behemoth and Leviathan.
I wonder why dinosaur bones have NEVER been found in the same strata as humans???

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#90726 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I could have swore that you have stalked this guy named Dan for over 3 years now because you are so obsessed with him. That is even how you coined your name, right?. And I suggest if you only want to discuss evolution, then start a new thread and call it "for evolutionist only" or something.
You are doing what you always do. You are making assumptions without validating them and then acting as if those assumptions were true. They are not.
I coined my name as a joke and it turned into something useful. You thought posting on Topix was something useful and it has turned into a joke.

The fact remains that you STALKED me here. You don't deal with reality very well do you.

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#90727 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You called it wrong so it is your place to prove it wrong. A I said MAYBE? Which means I don't know for sure and I am not afraid to say so. But for you to call it wrong, where is your proof?
No, it is your claim so you are left to provide the evidence to support it.

If you don't know then it is just conjecture as I stated and that is it.

It is your argument. It isn't my fault you don't have the ability to defend it and it isn't my responsibility to hold your hand and do it for you.

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#90728 May 27, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Trying to turn the kids into believers that they came from their "Monkey's Uncle"?...That is what you call "Brain Cleaning???
:)))))
You probably need to keep up more with the relevant sciences, the connection has been made, and it has been proven that we descended from the great ape line

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#90729 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You called it wrong so it is your place to prove it wrong. A I said MAYBE? Which means I don't know for sure and I am not afraid to say so. But for you to call it wrong, where is your proof?
You should be asking "where is your evidence". A proof, if it is ever made comes from evidence. Historians will tell you that the people at that time and place thought the Earth was flat. All verses in the Bible make much more sense if they are referring to a flat Earth rather than to a spherical Earth. There are at least three times in the Bible that an event describes the Earth as flat. Can you name these?

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#90730 May 27, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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A circle is 2 dimensional , the ancient Hebrew had no concept of space, none at all. Even though other civilizations may have the Hebrew didn't. No one describes the Earth as a circle, knowing it is spherical. The conception of the sky was like it was hammered out in a bowl shape covering the circle of Earth. This is describing covering a plate with a salad bowl.
They thought water was above the sky too, when it rained it came through holes in the canopy.
Wow! Sphere Synonyms: Earth, apple, ball, big blue marble, circle, globe, globule, orb, pellet, pill, planet, rondure, round.

Earth and circle are both there.

Now being the Origin of SPHERE - Middle English spere globe, celestial sphere, from Anglo-French espere, from Latin sphaera, from Greek sphaira, literally, ball; perhaps akin to Greek spairein to quiver more at spurn
First Known Use: 14th century - That was after the bibles was written.

That means the word did not exist in the biblical days.
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#90731 May 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yes, but creationists will sometimes try to use the Bible as evidence. This sort of thing happens all of the time when the many flaws in the Bible are pointed out to them.
What you call 'many flaws' are just you mis-interpretations of scripture.

Even though we point out the correct meaning, you just get mad and start calling names instead of trying to see the Word for what it is really saying.

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#90732 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You called it wrong so it is your place to prove it wrong. A I said MAYBE? Which means I don't know for sure and I am not afraid to say so. But for you to call it wrong, where is your proof?
I have already shown you the weaknesses of your argument. It is clear that you were just pissing in the wind. There is nothing more I have to do until you show that it is direction that was being discussed and not the definition of a shape.

Of course you can continue to attack my credibility and stalk me further. That hasn't worked for you so far, so why stop now.

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#90733 May 27, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>You are doing what you always do. You are making assumptions without validating them and then acting as if those assumptions were true. They are not.
I coined my name as a joke and it turned into something useful. You thought posting on Topix was something useful and it has turned into a joke.
The fact remains that you STALKED me here. You don't deal with reality very well do you.
Stalked you here? Prove it? I just got tired of all the NS on the "Who do you support for the U.S. Senate race?" where all you and Dawg do is belittle people and run them down. Between you and Dawg months ago 90% of the post came from you two. So I went searching for other threads.

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#90734 May 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You should be asking "where is your evidence". A proof, if it is ever made comes from evidence. Historians will tell you that the people at that time and place thought the Earth was flat. All verses in the Bible make much more sense if they are referring to a flat Earth rather than to a spherical Earth. There are at least three times in the Bible that an event describes the Earth as flat. Can you name these?
Better yet how about you post the verse or verses where it says the Earth is "flat"

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#90735 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Again I have shown you a Bible vs that states the Earth is a circle. Can you just show me one Bible vs where it says the Earth is flat?
It isn't so awful they got it wrong, it wasn't for a thousand years later we finally figured out you couldn't sail off the edge of the world. And the the truth being the Earth IS a sphere. It's hard to understand what the ancients thought, us being as advanced in knowing what we now know , because science rejected scripture and discovered it was wrong. The Earth isn't 6,000-10,000 years old , but science collectively with knowledge pushed back it's true age from Hutton's millions Kelvins hundreds of millions to it's true age of 4.7 billion.

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#90736 May 27, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I have already shown you the weaknesses of your argument. It is clear that you were just pissing in the wind. There is nothing more I have to do until you show that it is direction that was being discussed and not the definition of a shape.
Of course you can continue to attack my credibility and stalk me further. That hasn't worked for you so far, so why stop now.
At least I have the guts to try to give an answer instead of just sitting on my butt saying you are wrong as you do.

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#90737 May 27, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Wow! Sphere Synonyms: Earth, apple, ball, big blue marble, circle, globe, globule, orb, pellet, pill, planet, rondure, round.
Earth and circle are both there.
Now being the Origin of SPHERE - Middle English spere globe, celestial sphere, from Anglo-French espere, from Latin sphaera, from Greek sphaira, literally, ball; perhaps akin to Greek spairein to quiver more at spurn
First Known Use: 14th century - That was after the bibles was written.
That means the word did not exist in the biblical days.
Neither did the concept the Earth was one.

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#90738 May 27, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I have already shown you the weaknesses of your argument. It is clear that you were just pissing in the wind. There is nothing more I have to do until you show that it is direction that was being discussed and not the definition of a shape.
Of course you can continue to attack my credibility and stalk me further. That hasn't worked for you so far, so why stop now.
What was it you told me when I asked about your badges,,, oh yeah that's right, you told me you have to be a good guy, be in good with the moderators and not be a dickkhead as you called me. LMAO

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#90739 May 27, 2013
Here are just a few of the many other passages that prove Bible writers were ignorant of Earth's spherical shape:
Daniel 4:7-8, "I saw a tree of great height at the center of the world. It was large and strong, with its top touching the heavens, and it could be seen from the ends of the earth." This was allegedly an inspired dream, yet it conveys a flat-earth concept, because no matter how tall a tree would be, people on the other side of a spherical earth could not see it.

http://etb-cosmology.blogspot.com/2012/04/anc...

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#90740 May 27, 2013
Matthew 4:8, "The devil took him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and displayed before him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence...." The only plausible reason for the "very high mountain" was that the altitude would make it possible to see to the ends of the earth. Only on a flat earth would this be remotely possible, so the New Testament writers were as ignorant as the Old.

http://etb-cosmology.blogspot.com/2012/04/anc...

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#90741 May 27, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> It isn't so awful they got it wrong, it wasn't for a thousand years later we finally figured out you couldn't sail off the edge of the world. And the the truth being the Earth IS a sphere. It's hard to understand what the ancients thought, us being as advanced in knowing what we now know , because science rejected scripture and discovered it was wrong. The Earth isn't 6,000-10,000 years old , but science collectively with knowledge pushed back it's true age from Hutton's millions Kelvins hundreds of millions to it's true age of 4.7 billion.
I will agree they were simple people. they did not have a vast vocabulary with complex words. They did not understand 2,3,4 ect dimensional.

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#90742 May 27, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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What you call 'many flaws' are just you mis-interpretations of scripture.
Even though we point out the correct meaning, you just get mad and start calling names instead of trying to see the Word for what it is really saying.
Nope, they are flaw. Adam and Eve never happened. The same can be said for Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, and all of Genesis. Exodus has been shown by archaeologists to be a fable too.

And don't forget the countless contradictions and the failed prophecies too.

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