Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Read more

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#90573 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The physical life is temporary and heaven or hell is permanent.
Children go to God when they die. I guarantee they are happier there without sin and evil than they ever would have been here.
Once you are old enough to understand what the Bible says and you know of God and Jesus' salvation, then reject it over and over and over and over and over....then you die, you will not go to be with God in heaven.
Children are different when they do not comprehend the consiquences of sin completely.
See what your religion does to you? You basically just called the brutal death of children a good thing. Wow. So, are murder victims better off? Torture victims? What about you? Why don't you just end your life right now if you're so sure?

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#90574 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Satan uses evil to 'kill, steal and destroy'.
God protects His people from evil (when they follow Him and obey Him).
America has thrown God out of its schools, courts, jobs, politics and now everyone wants to blame the evil that Satan does here on God???....you guys need to make up your mind, do you want God or not?
When God is not welcome, His Hedge of Protection is not welcome either, in other words...
**** God takes His protection away from rebellious nations.****
and allows satan to take over...just like what's happening all over America...a spirit of 'anti-christian' has embedded itself.
Worst, most absurd logic ever. The US is one of the most religious nations - by your logic, shouldn't we be completely free from disaster? What about individual religious persons? Does god offer them his "hedge of protection?" Then how do they get hurt? What about the most religious nation on earth? Do they have total peace?

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#90575 May 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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God was never "thrown out of schools". That is a ridiculous claim to make if you believe in God. What happened was that the illegal activity of organized prayer in schools was abolished. Nothing more.
You must have a very weak God if he can be thrown out of schools that easily.
Ahahahah. Or a stubborn, chilidish one. "You 5 year old children aren't gonna pray to me anymore? Fine. Tornado."

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Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#90576 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Satan uses evil to 'kill, steal and destroy'.
God protects His people from evil (when they follow Him and obey Him).
America has thrown God out of its schools, courts, jobs, politics and now everyone wants to blame the evil that Satan does here on God???....you guys need to make up your mind, do you want God or not?
When God is not welcome, His Hedge of Protection is not welcome either, in other words...
**** God takes His protection away from rebellious nations.****
and allows satan to take over...just like what's happening all over America...a spirit of 'anti-christian' has embedded itself.
God was still in school up to the 60s
prior to that we still had
Jim Crow laws
lynchings of blacks was common
inter-racial marriage was illegal
in the early 1900's we had child labor, children working 12-15 hours a day in sweat shops
not to mention the horrors the workers of the railroad gangs endured
or the horrors suffered by coal miners
or the genocide of the American Indians

gee, all this evil while we were a strong christian nation...

one more thing, didn't most members of the KKK consider themselves good christian men...while they were lynching some poor black man

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#90577 May 26, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Worst, most absurd logic ever. The US is one of the most religious nations - by your logic, shouldn't we be completely free from disaster? What about individual religious persons? Does god offer them his "hedge of protection?" Then how do they get hurt? What about the most religious nation on earth? Do they have total peace?
The US is also one of the most corrupt nations as well. The people in the US thrive on greed and material things. They will lie, cheat, steal, and even kill to get them.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90578 May 26, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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rather ironic that the first day of Jesus the prince of peace would be called Vengeance, Wrath and Destruction, don't you think.
and I bet you scoff when Muslims call Islam the religion of peace...
personally I think both groups are two sides of the same coin, both are used to control and enslave mankind
Jesus is not the Messiah or the Prince of Peace, he said himself that he came to bring a sword (war) and division. His spiritual father and his god is Satan. Jesus is Lucifer, Satans' counterfeit Messiah and he came to finish Satans' work. Both went to heaven when they died and both have been reincarnated, they have a role to play in the end times.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90579 May 26, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What about the most religious nation on earth? Do they have total peace?
America 'used' to have peace and it was the most 'blessed' nation on earth...but that peace and blessings are going away...along with the number of God's people.

New generations of children are being raised without God, then they're going to schools and colleges who teach hatred for God and His people.

This nation 'will not' stand for long.

God will not force Himself on anyone or any nation...so when most of America wants God 'out' of sight, then guess what??? God leaves.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90580 May 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Nope, no Noah's Ark. There is no evidence for it and plenty of evidence against it. For example if there was a flood there would be severe genetic bottlenecks datable to the time of the Ark in all species. That is not observed.
Please explain what you mean by "genetic bottlenecks".
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90581 May 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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God was never "thrown out of schools". That is a ridiculous claim to make if you believe in God. What happened was that the illegal activity of organized prayer in schools was abolished. Nothing more.
You must have a very weak God if he can be thrown out of schools that easily.
God has been thrown out of every section of American life...except the church house.

That isn't going to cut it.

If man thinks that he alone can handle this life without help from God, well, God will let you try....and fail..as always.

God isn't weak, He just isn't going to 'force' Himself on people that don't want Him.

These same people will be begging for His forgiveness, at some point...guaranteed.

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Everett, WA

#90582 May 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain what you mean by "genetic bottlenecks".
Really? You have no clue? And you try to claim that Noah's Ark is true.

A genetic or population bottleneck is the reducing of diversity in a genome caused by a near extinction event. By measuring the diversity of the genome of a population it can be judged whether this has happened in the past or not. With known rates of mutation a date can be estimated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_bottl...

The sort of genetic bottleneck that Noah's Ark would have caused would have been blatantly obvious.

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Everett, WA

#90583 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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God has been thrown out of every section of American life...except the church house.
That isn't going to cut it.
If man thinks that he alone can handle this life without help from God, well, God will let you try....and fail..as always.
God isn't weak, He just isn't going to 'force' Himself on people that don't want Him.
These same people will be begging for His forgiveness, at some point...guaranteed.
So you believe in a very weak god that can be easily defeated. Hmm, interesting. I guess that is one way out of getting out of the omnipotence self contradiction.

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#90584 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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God has been thrown out of every section of American life...except the church house.
That isn't going to cut it.
If man thinks that he alone can handle this life without help from God, well, God will let you try....and fail..as always.
God isn't weak, He just isn't going to 'force' Himself on people that don't want Him.
These same people will be begging for His forgiveness, at some point...guaranteed.
The only way you can throw God out is to not believe. As far as schools and such... With so many believing different, different religions ect ect now days,something had to be done from threats of suing to pulling kids out of schools ect ect. Now God can thrive in school or any where else just as he has ever thrived but can't be done out loud or pushed upon people that believe different. God lives in the hearts of people that believe not in a building or a certain place. If you carry God in your heart he is always with you no matter where you go.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90585 May 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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So you believe in a very weak god that can be easily defeated. Hmm, interesting. I guess that is one way out of getting out of the omnipotence self contradiction.
I just told you He isn't weak, He allows free will and if you don't want Him around during this temporary life on earth, then He will let you try it on your own.

Once a population realizes that they need God...or need God 'again', He will come back.
MIDutch

Waterford, MI

#90586 May 26, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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The US is also one of the most corrupt nations as well. The people in the US thrive on greed and material things. They will lie, cheat, steal, and even kill to get them.
Well, if we could get rid of all of the "fundamentalist xristian creationists" we'd at least cut the lying part in half.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90587 May 26, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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The only way you can throw God out is to not believe. As far as schools and such... With so many believing different, different religions ect ect now days,something had to be done from threats of suing to pulling kids out of schools ect ect. Now God can thrive in school or any where else just as he has ever thrived but can't be done out loud or pushed upon people that believe different. God lives in the hearts of people that believe not in a building or a certain place. If you carry God in your heart he is always with you no matter where you go.
The children are being brainwashed into unbelief.

The only reason unbelievers don't want God's Word, Prayers, Bibles, Crosses, or 10 commandments in public, is because it makes them feel guilty...just as it should.

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#90588 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The children are being brainwashed into unbelief.
The only reason unbelievers don't want God's Word, Prayers, Bibles, Crosses, or 10 commandments in public, is because it makes them feel guilty...just as it should.
Then the parents need to be sure and teach their children different. Parents don't spend time with their children doing things, sharing or talking about things like they used to. They give them games, PC's, phones and such and let them go entertain and or learn on their own anymore.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90589 May 26, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Then the parents need to be sure and teach their children different. Parents don't spend time with their children doing things, sharing or talking about things like they used to. They give them games, PC's, phones and such and let them go entertain and or learn on their own anymore.
Very true, but their parents many times, are the last generation that was brainwashed too.

Materialism is a distraction for our country...causing both parents to spend endless hours at a job just to provide 'electronic babysitters' for their kids.

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Everett, WA

#90590 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The children are being brainwashed into unbelief.
The only reason unbelievers don't want God's Word, Prayers, Bibles, Crosses, or 10 commandments in public, is because it makes them feel guilty...just as it should.
Wrong, the classes where the scientific method is taught is not brainwashing. It would be better to call it brain cleaning. Ridding the mind of fairy tales told by bronze age sheep shaggers.

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Since: May 13

Alpharetta, GA

#90591 May 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong, the classes where the scientific method is taught is not brainwashing. It would be better to call it brain cleaning. Ridding the mind of fairy tales told by bronze age sheep shaggers.
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#90592 May 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain what you mean by "genetic bottlenecks".
A reduced genetic variation/drift due to reduced population.

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