Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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#90556 May 26, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Sorry, you really can't prove any of this. As noted o believe in both evolution and creation. No question we do have a protector. If you'd deny this. it's just because you are in denial. Therefore the debate would be a waste of my time. Us being here, jus has too many miracles. God allowing evil and disasters is just part of Free Will. I do believe you and all others do know YOURSELF. You have a short existence debating your points listed above looks like a terrible waste of time for you
Totally. God gets you to work on time and lets children get ripped apart by a tornado. Priorities in order, he has!

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#90557 May 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The bible may not be perfect but that is only because it was written by humans. You should also separate the NT from the old. The OT is about God and the NT is about Satan who wants to be God. The NT is full of myths, lies and delusion. There will never be a rapture, tribulation or millennium. But the stories in the OT are true, like Adam and Eve and Noahs ark. The OT will be proven true when the Messiah comes and fulfills it.
Nope, no Noah's Ark. There is no evidence for it and plenty of evidence against it. For example if there was a flood there would be severe genetic bottlenecks datable to the time of the Ark in all species. That is not observed.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

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Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#90558 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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I was speaking of the justice and punishment from God, even after the masters die.
Possibly, the Christians here are 'wasting' our time speaking to many of you who have already 'hardened' your hearts, so the seeds of God's word does not grow.
First off you do not know what happens after we die. The hearsay you would like us to accept is nonsense because you just don't know. And there is no such thing as a Christian because you do not obey the Bible. You want others to obey the silly Bible while you refuse to do so yourself. Why can't you admit to this truth?

It is not that atheists have hardened their hearts it is because you are a liar who can't stay focused on the discussion at hand, and you can't prove a word you write.

You make assertion after assertion and expect everyone to come to Jesus just because you repeated what was told to you. Atheists and Anti-theists are not as stupid as are pew warmers. We need more than a warm fuzzy feeling, which is all you have to offer.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

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#90559 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
Everyone on earth is a servant to either good or evil. You only have 2 choices.
Matt 6:24
"No one can serve two masters. He will hate the first master and love the second, or he will be devoted to the first and despise the second. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Galatians 1:10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.
Romans 6:20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness.
Why do you keep posting this silly nonsense? The Bible is an accient Jewish puppet play. Who cares what it says? You don't and I don't.

Has anyone ever seen God's face?

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is ofGod, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Versus

Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."

“THERE IS NO GOD”

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#90560 May 26, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text> Now I am a believer of God .
I will be happy to prove to you that your God does not exist, and I will be happy to do so, just as soon as all you biblicists are finished providing your proof that such a being does exist.

So far no one ever has offered any proof. The reason for that is simple; there isn't any.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

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#90561 May 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The bible may not be perfect but that is only because it was written by humans. You should also separate the NT from the old. The OT is about God and the NT is about Satan who wants to be God. The NT is full of myths, lies and delusion. There will never be a rapture, tribulation or millennium. But the stories in the OT are true, like Adam and Eve and Noahs ark. The OT will be proven true when the Messiah comes and fulfills it.
Please explain why anyone should believe or accept your assertions.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

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#90562 May 26, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Sorry, you really can't prove any of this. As noted o believe in both evolution and creation. No question we do have a protector. If you'd deny this. it's just because you are in denial. Therefore the debate would be a waste of my time. Us being here, jus has too many miracles. God allowing evil and disasters is just part of Free Will. I do believe you and all others do know YOURSELF. You have a short existence debating your points listed above looks like a terrible waste of time for you
GOD CREATES EVIL:
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" (Isa. 45:7).
"Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that good and evil come?" (Lam. 3:38).
"...that I may repent of the evil, which I purpose to do unto them because of the evil of their doings" (Jer. 26:3).
"...all the evil which I purpose to do unto them; that they may return every man from his evil way; that I may forgive their iniquity and their sin" (Jer. 36:3).
"I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live. And I polluted them in their own gifts...." (Ezek. 20:25-26).
"For thus saith the Lord; as I have brought all this great evil upon this people, so will I bring upon them all the good that I have promised them" (Jer. 32:42).
"...shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?"

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#90563 May 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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I will be happy to prove to you that your God does not exist, and I will be happy to do so, just as soon as all you biblicists are finished providing your proof that such a being does exist.
So far no one ever has offered any proof. The reason for that is simple; there isn't any.
Like I said in another part of the post " It all boils down to what a person wants to believe and if you believe it strong enough nothing will change your mind except 100% pure factual proof which no one will ever have. And if that proof was to ever happen there would still be doubt, criticizing and arguments from both sides for it would go against everything they believed in to start with.

Proof lacks on both sides. That why they argue all the time.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#90564 May 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Please explain why anyone should believe or accept your assertions.
When VWD Day comes, you and everybody in the world will know. There is so much, it would take volumes of books to explain it. VWD stands for Vengeance, Wrath, and Destruction. It is the first Day of the Lord.

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Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#90565 May 26, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>When VWD Day comes, you and everybody in the world will know. There is so much, it would take volumes of books to explain it. VWD stands for Vengeance, Wrath, and Destruction. It is the first Day of the Lord.
rather ironic that the first day of Jesus the prince of peace would be called Vengeance, Wrath and Destruction, don't you think.

and I bet you scoff when Muslims call Islam the religion of peace...

personally I think both groups are two sides of the same coin, both are used to control and enslave mankind
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90566 May 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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First off you do not know what happens after we die. The hearsay you would like us to accept is nonsense because you just don't know. And there is no such thing as a Christian because you do not obey the Bible. You want others to obey the silly Bible while you refuse to do so yourself. Why can't you admit to this truth?
It is not that atheists have hardened their hearts it is because you are a liar who can't stay focused on the discussion at hand, and you can't prove a word you write.
You make assertion after assertion and expect everyone to come to Jesus just because you repeated what was told to you. Atheists and Anti-theists are not as stupid as are pew warmers. We need more than a warm fuzzy feeling, which is all you have to offer.
I do know what happens after we die, I have been shown a vision of what spiritual life is to come...like a "trailer preview to the next show". This is one reason I'm so set on my beliefs, there are many that haven't been so lucky and I feel it my duty now to let others know.

There is way more to this than just "warm fuzzy feelings", and while on that subject, what exactly did you do about 'those feelings' you seem to have experienced? Nothing?
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90567 May 26, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Totally. God gets you to work on time and lets children get ripped apart by a tornado. Priorities in order, he has!
The physical life is temporary and heaven or hell is permanent.

Children go to God when they die. I guarantee they are happier there without sin and evil than they ever would have been here.

Once you are old enough to understand what the Bible says and you know of God and Jesus' salvation, then reject it over and over and over and over and over....then you die, you will not go to be with God in heaven.

Children are different when they do not comprehend the consiquences of sin completely.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Tenerife

#90568 May 26, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you really can't prove any of this. As noted o believe in both evolution and creation. No question we do have a protector. If you'd deny this. it's just because you are in denial. Therefore the debate would be a waste of my time. Us being here, jus has too many miracles. God allowing evil and disasters is just part of Free Will. I do believe you and all others do know YOURSELF. You have a short existence debating your points listed above looks like a terrible waste of time for you
Sorry for you, but I CAN prove all of that.

If you can give me scientific proof that what I said is not true, I will convert to your religion.

Took me a couple years researching the literature of the different scientific disciplines to arrive at the conclusions you are talking about.

Your only option is to believe it and give up your religion, or deny the facts and go on being ignorant and wasting your life on a non-existent Godů.which you ARE doing right now.

The list I wrote stands and has the requisite scientific evidence behind it.
imagine2011

Southaven, MS

#90569 May 26, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Totally. God gets you to work on time and lets children get ripped apart by a tornado. Priorities in order, he has!
Satan uses evil to 'kill, steal and destroy'.

God protects His people from evil (when they follow Him and obey Him).

America has thrown God out of its schools, courts, jobs, politics and now everyone wants to blame the evil that Satan does here on God???....you guys need to make up your mind, do you want God or not?

When God is not welcome, His Hedge of Protection is not welcome either, in other words...

**** God takes His protection away from rebellious nations.****

and allows satan to take over...just like what's happening all over America...a spirit of 'anti-christian' has embedded itself.
drinK the hivE

New York, NY

#90570 May 26, 2013
Aren't All Interpretation' False? If So - Then Why Bother Interpreting?...

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Everett, WA

#90571 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Satan uses evil to 'kill, steal and destroy'.
God protects His people from evil (when they follow Him and obey Him).
America has thrown God out of its schools, courts, jobs, politics and now everyone wants to blame the evil that Satan does here on God???....you guys need to make up your mind, do you want God or not?
When God is not welcome, His Hedge of Protection is not welcome either, in other words...
**** God takes His protection away from rebellious nations.****
and allows satan to take over...just like what's happening all over America...a spirit of 'anti-christian' has embedded itself.
God was never "thrown out of schools". That is a ridiculous claim to make if you believe in God. What happened was that the illegal activity of organized prayer in schools was abolished. Nothing more.

You must have a very weak God if he can be thrown out of schools that easily.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#90572 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Satan uses evil to 'kill, steal and destroy'.
God protects His people from evil (when they follow Him and obey Him).
America has thrown God out of its schools, courts, jobs, politics and now everyone wants to blame the evil that Satan does here on God???....you guys need to make up your mind, do you want God or not?
When God is not welcome, His Hedge of Protection is not welcome either, in other words...
**** God takes His protection away from rebellious nations.****
and allows satan to take over...just like what's happening all over America...a spirit of 'anti-christian' has embedded itself.
You are are one deluded mo fo.

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#90573 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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The physical life is temporary and heaven or hell is permanent.
Children go to God when they die. I guarantee they are happier there without sin and evil than they ever would have been here.
Once you are old enough to understand what the Bible says and you know of God and Jesus' salvation, then reject it over and over and over and over and over....then you die, you will not go to be with God in heaven.
Children are different when they do not comprehend the consiquences of sin completely.
See what your religion does to you? You basically just called the brutal death of children a good thing. Wow. So, are murder victims better off? Torture victims? What about you? Why don't you just end your life right now if you're so sure?

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#90574 May 26, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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Satan uses evil to 'kill, steal and destroy'.
God protects His people from evil (when they follow Him and obey Him).
America has thrown God out of its schools, courts, jobs, politics and now everyone wants to blame the evil that Satan does here on God???....you guys need to make up your mind, do you want God or not?
When God is not welcome, His Hedge of Protection is not welcome either, in other words...
**** God takes His protection away from rebellious nations.****
and allows satan to take over...just like what's happening all over America...a spirit of 'anti-christian' has embedded itself.
Worst, most absurd logic ever. The US is one of the most religious nations - by your logic, shouldn't we be completely free from disaster? What about individual religious persons? Does god offer them his "hedge of protection?" Then how do they get hurt? What about the most religious nation on earth? Do they have total peace?

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#90575 May 26, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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God was never "thrown out of schools". That is a ridiculous claim to make if you believe in God. What happened was that the illegal activity of organized prayer in schools was abolished. Nothing more.
You must have a very weak God if he can be thrown out of schools that easily.
Ahahahah. Or a stubborn, chilidish one. "You 5 year old children aren't gonna pray to me anymore? Fine. Tornado."

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