Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 210061 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89608 May 19, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
It takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God.
Your opinion is noted as just that.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89609 May 19, 2013
imagine2011 wrote:
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How can you look at the complex, beautiful world and believe that it all came about by accident?
We don't. That's your caricature. For no matter how many times we point out that natural non-intelligent forces are NOT random I can GUARANTEE you that bozos like you and HTS will make the same mistake within days.

Because you are both stupid and dishonest.(shrug)
KJV

United States

#89610 May 19, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
[QUOTE who="Mary Magdalena
"]<quoted text>
You lie. What's new. "

Bearing false witness, MM? What's new?
You have geologic evidence of a flood in the past 5,000 years that over-topped all the mountains under the entire heavens by 15 cubits? Bring it on.
There's lots of evidence posted on the thread "Noah's Flood Real"
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89611 May 19, 2013
HTS wrote:
You have no concept of Darwinism.
You're talking to yourself.
HTS wrote:
According to ToE, all life is purposeless...an accident.
The theory itself makes no philosophical or theological claims. Until you have an OBJECTIVE definition of what your "purpose" is, all your claims are moot.
HTS wrote:
G. G. Simpson wrote...
"Man is the result of a purposeless and materialistic process that did not have him in mind. He was not planned. He is a state of matter, a form of life, a sort of animal, and a species of the Primates, akin nearly or remotely to all of life and indeed to all that is material."
*(Simpson G.G., "The Meaning of Evolution: A Study of the History of Life and of its Significance for Man," [1949], Yale University Press: New Haven CT, 1960, reprint, p.344).
And his philosophical opinion is noted. However since there are evolutionary biologists who are also Christian, their philosophical/theological opinions in this area are JUST as valid. But since science doesn't CARE what philosophy or theology has to say, all that IS important is that the science, and the scientists support evolution. And none of your whining can change that.

Note also that NO other scientific field makes use of Goddidit with magic either, yet you don't complain about THEM being "atheistic". The reality is they are all EQUALLY as "atheistic" as evolution. Period.
KJV

United States

#89612 May 19, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>If knowledge is not a bad thing then why did God forbid Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge?

God sounds like an azzhole to me.
Easy. God gave man freedom of choice so he gave him the choice too.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89613 May 19, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you know how long people have been claiming the imminent return of jesus? He's about two-thousand years late.
Actually she correctly pointed out that Jesus already came back at the appointed time. Which was about 2,000 years ago.

Fundies have kept on with the myth that "He could come back any day now!" because without that threat the Churches would lose their power over everyone.
KJV

United States

#89614 May 19, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you hate kittens?
It's all those little bones!

And they taste a lot like spotted owl you know that strange after taste.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89615 May 19, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I love this. God bless you.
ZIMBABWE OWN ENGLISH!

P.s. Still waiting on my cheque, Chuck.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89616 May 19, 2013
Colorado Chick wrote:
<quoted text> Because, he wanted his followers to use their brain power to figure it out...INSTEAD of being told..the answer...AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE!!!
Bingo.

Then all the fundies decided NOT to use their brain-power.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89617 May 19, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>From the flying roll, "I set the toilets on fire" The Messiah will "shew the lighting down of his arm" and his fruit shall be a "fiery flying serpent" The Messiah (God) is going to set his enemies and the wicked on fire. There's no fire in hell, you don't burn, you rot. Fire is a symbol of holiness.
In that case I can guarantee that everyone is going to hell.

Uh... unless they're getting cremated that is.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89618 May 19, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I am not a Christian but Jesus has been reincarnated and is here. He is Lucifer and has been cast out of heaven. Lucifer is Satans counterfeit messiah and he came to finish satans work. Everybody that has a role to play in the end times is here and we're all getting old. "The actors and jesters are here, the stage is in darkness and clear, for raising the curtain and no ones quite certain whose play it is " Supertramp.
And does he look like this?

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/f/f3/...

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#89619 May 19, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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If knowledge is not a bad thing then why did God forbid Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge?
God sounds like an azzhole to me.
Specifically, knowledge of right from wrong - followed by a 1700 page book that religious folk have to have to distinguish right from wrong. Why do the Abrahamic religions get so twisted about naturalists, clothing optional communities and nude beaches when God was angered at Adam and Eves' sudden modesty?

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#89620 May 19, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
There's lots of evidence posted on the thread "Noah's Flood Real"
[/QUOTE]

Would that be comfortably nestled between the "Moby Dick" thread and the "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" thread?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89621 May 19, 2013
[QUOTE who="Mary Magdalena
"]<quoted text>
You lie. What's new.[/QUOTE]

Actually Maggie, we leave the lying to the creationists.

They don't have evidence. They don't NEED evidence. Evidence is UTTERLY irrelevant to their position.

Does the evidence look like this? Then Goddidit. But does the evidence look like something else instead? Then Godstilldidit. Hence evidence is irrelevant.

It doesn't matter if we point out the fact that there's zero evidence of a global flood because there is NO problem which cannot be solved by throwing Godmagic at it.

So you COULD be right. Goddidit with magic. But it just means you're lying whenever you claim you have scientific evidence to support your position.

But lying is okay as long as it's for Jesus. Just repent at the end and everything'll be cool.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89622 May 19, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
If knowledge is not a bad thing then why did God forbid Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge?
God sounds like an azzhole to me.
Which is why creationists pride themselves on worshipping ignorance. Science is bad. Knowledge is bad. Just do what "God" says which just so happens to line up with exactly what we like. Or else.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89623 May 19, 2013
KJV wrote:
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There's lots of evidence posted on the thread "Noah's Flood Real"
Yes, lots of evidence posted that fundies are deluded.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#89624 May 19, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Easy. God gave man freedom of choice so he gave him the choice too.
Free will is an illusion under an omniscient all-knowing God. If it exists then free will does not. There is no scenario in which complete and total knowledge of all things past and present does not make free will utterly and totally redundant. Even God has no free will because it is completely impossible for God to surprise Himself as it already knows everything it has done, is doing, and will do, thus choice once again becomes irrelevant. God has no free will. Therefore God is not God. Therefore we have free will because God can't create a rock it cannot life and it can create a rock it cannot lift.

QED.

Oops.

Best just to claim that God is beyond all human understanding and just leave it at that. Lest it become subject to critical scrutiny whereby it does not pass the scientific method hence leaving us with an illogical concept.(shrug)
KJV

United States

#89625 May 19, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Free will is an illusion under an omniscient all-knowing God. If it exists then free will does not. There is no scenario in which complete and total knowledge of all things past and present does not make free will utterly and totally redundant. Even God has no free will because it is completely impossible for God to surprise Himself as it already knows everything it has done, is doing, and will do, thus choice once again becomes irrelevant. God has no free will. Therefore God is not God. Therefore we have free will because God can't create a rock it cannot life and it can create a rock it cannot lift.

QED.

Oops.

Best just to claim that God is beyond all human understanding and just leave it at that. Lest it become subject to critical scrutiny whereby it does not pass the scientific method hence leaving us with an illogical concept.(shrug)
LOL.

Bawhahaha!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#89626 May 19, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
God used the Holy Spook to knock up the Virgin Mary when she was only 12 years old. God is a child molestor.
And the alledged flood makes God the ultimate mass murderer.
Why doesn't the Bible tell us anything good about God?
Satan has been reincarnated and his new name is Christian ! The new testament was predicated on a lie, the virgin birth. Mary claimed her pregnancy was from God to cover up her fornication. Murder is defined as the intentional taking of an innocent life. The people in Noahs day were far from innocent. God judged and killed them.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#89627 May 19, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
If knowledge is not a bad thing then why did God forbid Adam and Eve from eating from the tree of knowledge?
God sounds like an azzhole to me.
God forbade them from knowing evil, the misuse and perversion of sexual desire. They were commanded not to commit sodomy, oral sex. The "knowledge" was carnal knowledge not mental knowledge.

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