Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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<quoted text>Well maybe they shouldn't ignore this. Our Earth is a balanced system and minor changes and little stimulus might drive great change.
That does not stop the creatards trying to change the facts now does it?

Also note that little changes can be fatal, ask Thomas Midgely Jnr, his little change reduced the “knocking” in petrol engines, and even today 60 odd years later thousands of people a year are dying from that little change. He is also responsible for getting rid of that nasty ammonia as a coolant for fridges, he replaced it with CFC gasses. Thousands of people a years are contracting skin cancer because of that little change.

Ask him, Oh you can’t, he died by strangling himself in the invention he made for helping polio suffers get out of bed. In my view, it could not have happened to a more deserving person.

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<quoted text>Over time it has been noted changes of weather/ climate patterns "cycles" have occurred.One needs to consider the sources of and from which all these schemes come from.A lot of folks stood to make boo koo $ if all that climate laws,etc passed. any fines revenue would have went into the pockets of the "golbal elites" and done nothing to help environment.
That would be "beaucoup".

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<quoted text>I think you will find what you are looking for in a field called science.
"Field"?

He couldn't handle a flowerpot called "science".
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<quoted text>"Field"?
He couldn't handle a flowerpot called "science".
Wait a minute now, I stand out in my field all the time!

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First of all let me say that creationism does not run counter to natural selection. However, evolution DOES run counter to biological science! Any time you have a naturally occurring change in a genetic structure, it's called a 'mutation' and to this day mutations are never a positive thing. They result in D formations, diseases, and things like that. And besides that, when I stand on a mountaintop at sunset, just as God created me and watching the world around me shift from day to night as the place where I'm standing passes through the terminator line on the planet's surface, I see nothing but evidence of creation. Sorry, but I don't see things that used to be pond scum that somehow decided to become trees and the other millions of life forms before me!
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First of all let me say that creationism does not run counter to natural selection. However, evolution DOES run counter to biological science! Any time you have a naturally occurring change in a genetic structure, it's called a 'mutation' and to this day mutations are never a positive thing. They result in D formations, diseases, and things like that. And besides that, when I stand on a mountaintop at sunset, just as God created me and watching the world around me shift from day to night as the place where I'm standing passes through the terminator line on the planet's surface, I see nothing but evidence of creation. Sorry, but I don't see things that used to be pond scum that somehow decided to become trees and the other millions of life forms before me!
Nice post.

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First of all let me say that creationism does not run counter to natural selection. However, evolution DOES run counter to biological science! Any time you have a naturally occurring change in a genetic structure, it's called a 'mutation' and to this day mutations are never a positive thing. They result in D formations, diseases, and things like that. And besides that, when I stand on a mountaintop at sunset, just as God created me and watching the world around me shift from day to night as the place where I'm standing passes through the terminator line on the planet's surface, I see nothing but evidence of creation. Sorry, but I don't see things that used to be pond scum that somehow decided to become trees and the other millions of life forms before me!
As an (presumed) "adult", do you drink milk or consume other dairy products? Or are you lactose-intolerant?

The ability for adults to digest dairy products (from other species, mind you) is just ONE of a host of 'beneficial' mutations that most humans have today.

Appreciating nature, and ascribing the wonders therein to God is fine, but you should learn more about the mechanisms (described by science) as to HOW He did it -- at least to our best current knowledge.

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Jenji wrote:
First of all let me say that creationism does not run counter to natural selection. However, evolution DOES run counter to biological science! Any time you have a naturally occurring change in a genetic structure, it's called a 'mutation' and to this day mutations are never a positive thing. They result in D formations, diseases, and things like that. And besides that, when I stand on a mountaintop at sunset, just as God created me and watching the world around me shift from day to night as the place where I'm standing passes through the terminator line on the planet's surface, I see nothing but evidence of creation. Sorry, but I don't see things that used to be pond scum that somehow decided to become trees and the other millions of life forms before me!
It is just speculation, but I would bet that your erroneous conclusion stems from the fact that negative mutations often result in diseases. These negative results are more prominent and make it seem like mutations just cause disease to the lay population. I would bet that you don't even think about things like the mutation that allows some of us to digest milk as adults or color vision in primates and many, many, many others. These things are mutations with benefits, but they don't make headlines like cancer does.

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<quoted text>Nice post.
That you agree with this erroneous, sappy drivel says more about what you don't understand and don't know than what you think you do.

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As an (presumed) "adult", do you drink milk or consume other dairy products? Or are you lactose-intolerant?
The ability for adults to digest dairy products (from other species, mind you) is just ONE of a host of 'beneficial' mutations that most humans have today.
Appreciating nature, and ascribing the wonders therein to God is fine, but you should learn more about the mechanisms (described by science) as to HOW He did it -- at least to our best current knowledge.
Kong are you reading my mind? I hope not. There are some pages within.
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Kong_ wrote:
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As an (presumed) "adult", do you drink milk or consume other dairy products? Or are you lactose-intolerant?
The ability for adults to digest dairy products (from other species, mind you) is just ONE of a host of 'beneficial' mutations that most humans have today.
Appreciating nature, and ascribing the wonders therein to God is fine, but you should learn more about the mechanisms (described by science) as to HOW He did it -- at least to our best current knowledge.
What evidence do you have that the capacity to digest lactose resulted from a mutation? Do you have access to human DNA from thousands of years ago?

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Jenji wrote:
First of all let me say that creationism does not run counter to natural selection. However, evolution DOES run counter to biological science! Any time you have a naturally occurring change in a genetic structure, it's called a 'mutation' and to this day mutations are never a positive thing. They result in D formations, diseases, and things like that. And besides that, when I stand on a mountaintop at sunset, just as God created me and watching the world around me shift from day to night as the place where I'm standing passes through the terminator line on the planet's surface, I see nothing but evidence of creation. Sorry, but I don't see things that used to be pond scum that somehow decided to become trees and the other millions of life forms before me!
BTW....."D formations"?

REALLY?!?!
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As an (presumed) "adult", do you drink milk or consume other dairy products? Or are you lactose-intolerant?
The ability for adults to digest dairy products (from other species, mind you) is just ONE of a host of 'beneficial' mutations that most humans have today.
Appreciating nature, and ascribing the wonders therein to God is fine, but you should learn more about the mechanisms (described by science) as to HOW He did it -- at least to our best current knowledge.
The mechanisms that produce change in any system are a sequence or function that tends to move between extremes and balance or equilibrium is the product. Every system will oscillate and a stimulus drives change.

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<quoted text>Kong are you reading my mind? I hope not. There are some pages within.
"Great minds"....yadda, yadda, yadda...

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What evidence do you have that the capacity to digest lactose resulted from a mutation? Do you have access to human DNA from thousands of years ago?
Here's 45 seperate,individual scientific papers that address the mutation that determine lactose (in)tolerance:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...
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When a system cycles it is coming back on itself and an event or thing that evokes reaction may cause the system to urge forward to do something and cause change.
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FWIW, I am not a fan of the "Carbon Tax", either, and for the same reasons.
That does not discount the fact that Humans HAVE exacerbated the warming of this planet through our disrespect for the environment out of pure greed and overpopulation.
I only hope that humankind is as clever so as to figure a way out of this mess before it's too late.
I have no doubt human activity has caused some evnironmental problems,the sticking point to me is that ones want to make $$ on certain pretenses and not do anything to alieviate any environmental concerns. Yep this is our planet and we need to take care of it if we want it to take care of us.
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<quoted text>That would be "beaucoup".
In the Tennessean language it is boo koo,

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What evidence do you have that the capacity to digest lactose resulted from a mutation? Do you have access to human DNA from thousands of years ago?
Presumably because our other relatives cannot digest lactose.

And there are people who lack this ability. Not all adult humans can digest lactose. Without Google searching this is lack of a trait found more in Asian people if I recall correctly.

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Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>In the Tennessean language it is boo koo,
Tennessee has a separate language?

Try learning French. Or even English.

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