Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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<quoted text>SCP theory is right as rain and it can wash away the mess evolution has made.
SCP is not a theory. It's not even a decent wet dream.
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Kong_ wrote:
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"...right as rain", eh?
You don't even know enough about your own (Non)"theory" to be able to provide a decent explanation of it.
You just regurgitate a few pastel-colored, school-girl philosophical platitudes, and think you're a shoe-in for the next Nobel Prize.
Nope, don't expect any prize, but if there was one given to the people that caused this theory, a lot of people here should get it.

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Do you believe a lovely lady would do the humpty-hump with an ape?
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Do you believe Kong is actually an ape?

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<quoted text>SCP theory is right as rain and it can wash away the mess evolution has made.
Great, you too? Are you still trying to sell this whole systems and cycles nonsense? What exactly are you trying to describe to us, that systems and cycles exist? Of course they exist. That systems and cycles are exploited by man for our own benefit? Of course they are. So FS/KLV, please, take a moment and elaborate a bit. I’m sitting, and listening. The stage is yours.
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Great, you too? Are you still trying to sell this whole systems and cycles nonsense? What exactly are you trying to describe to us, that systems and cycles exist? Of course they exist. That systems and cycles are exploited by man for our own benefit? Of course they are. So FS/KLV, please, take a moment and elaborate a bit. I&#8217;m sitting, and listening. The stage is yours.
So, we agree on the fact that systems and cycles and patterns is the way nature works in general, correct?
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My, my, my. Potty humor. Aren't we the clever one though.
That is closest I can come in order to deal on the level of many of the folks on here.It must have stung you also according to your assertion..
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Okay, so now you are saying that your god is only as powerful as a computer. That sort of makes your god weak, since, well, pretty much everyone with any tech savvy knows what you just posted.
You totally missed the simple point I was making.A 4 year old would have seen the point.

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<quoted text>That is closest I can come in order to deal on the level of many of the folks on here.It must have stung you also according to your assertion..
Stung? Hardly. You have a vastly overblown sense of your own self-importance.
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I have been trying to find others who understand the simple fact that in all situations where natural systems are observed, cycling happens with them. It is also observable that every natural system will follow a pattern. Now, if we can say this is a true principle, we can give explanations as to the whys and wherefores from our own perspectives here and propose a theory.

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I have been trying to find others who understand the simple fact that in all situations where natural systems are observed, cycling happens with them. It is also observable that every natural system will follow a pattern. Now, if we can say this is a true principle, we can give explanations as to the whys and wherefores from our own perspectives here and propose a theory.
A tad late, Scooter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_theory

Jump to: navigation, search Systems theory is the interdisciplinary study of systems in general, with the goal of elucidating principles that can be applied to all types of systems at all nesting levels in all fields of research.[citation needed] The term does not yet have a well-established, precise meaning, but systems theory can reasonably be considered a specialization of systems thinking, a generalization of systems science, a systems approach. The term originates from Bertalanffy's general system theory (GST) and is used in later efforts in other fields, such as the action theory of Talcott Parsons[1] and the social systems theory of Niklas Luhmann.[2]

In this context the word systems is used to refer specifically to self-regulating systems, i.e. that are self-correcting through feedback. Self-regulating systems are found in nature, including the physiological systems of our body, in local and global ecosystems, and in climate—and in human learning processes.

<<end cut/paste -- much more at link above>>
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The Dude wrote:
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Great! You should therefore have no trouble in providing the mathematical formula which unequivocally objectively demonstrates universal creation via invisible Jewish magic-poofing.
(Dude watches tumbleweed roll by in the wind)
In contrast, you will provide proof that the advanced mathematical formulas of the universe were randomly created by invisible number naturalists who themselves were randomly created by random supervisors of randomness. LOl.
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Do you have anything that's actually evidence?
Your random creation by non living matter is found wanting which means one should look elsewhere.

“The argument has been repeatedly made that given sufficient time, a genetic instruction set and language system could have arisen. But extended time does not provide an explanatory mechanism for spontaneously generated genetic instruction. No amount of time proposed thus far, can explain this type of conceptual communication system. It is not just complex. It is conceptually complex.”

Biologists J. T. Trevors and D. L. Abel, "Chance And Necessity Do Not Explain The Origin Of Life," Cell Biology International 28 (2004), 729-739.
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A tad late, Scooter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_theory
Jump to: navigation, search Systems theory is the interdisciplinary study of systems in general, with the goal of elucidating principles that can be applied to all types of systems at all nesting levels in all fields of research.[citation needed] The term does not yet have a well-established, precise meaning, but systems theory can reasonably be considered a specialization of systems thinking, a generalization of systems science, a systems approach. The term originates from Bertalanffy's general system theory (GST) and is used in later efforts in other fields, such as the action theory of Talcott Parsons[1] and the social systems theory of Niklas Luhmann.[2]
In this context the word systems is used to refer specifically to self-regulating systems, i.e. that are self-correcting through feedback. Self-regulating systems are found in nature, including the physiological systems of our body, in local and global ecosystems, and in climate&#8212;and in human learning processes.
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Nope, you're still not exlaining cycling patterned natural systems.

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In contrast, you will provide proof that the advanced mathematical formulas of the universe were randomly created by invisible number naturalists who themselves were randomly created by random supervisors of randomness. LOl.
No.

The "advanced mathematical formulas" of which you speak are created by humans. To describe observed effects in the Universe.

Which they do, with ever-increasing accuracy.

You sorta skipped math as well as science, didn't you?
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<quoted text>No.
The "advanced mathematical formulas" of which you speak are created by humans. To describe observed effects in the Universe.
Which they do, with ever-increasing accuracy.
You sorta skipped math as well as science, didn't you?
Though they could have been created by God and man learned them.
You sorta skipped logic ,right?

"The genetic code turns out to be a syntactic structure of arithmetic, the result of unique summations that have been carried out by some primordial abacus at least three and half billion years ago."

Mathematician and geneticist Vladimir Shcherbak.

The mathematician Roger Penrose dismisses the idea that the success of mathematics can be attributed to its survival value, and attributes the accord between mathematics and physics to the underlying rationality of the world. That would explain why Nobel-winning quantum physicist Paul Dirac said,“God is a mathematician of a very high order.”

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Though they could have been created by God and man learned them.
You sorta skipped logic ,right?
"The genetic code turns out to be a syntactic structure of arithmetic, the result of unique summations that have been carried out by some primordial abacus at least three and half billion years ago."
Mathematician and geneticist Vladimir Shcherbak.
Meh. He also believes that DNA is a decimal system.{shrug}
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Meh. He also believes that DNA is a decimal system.{shrug}


He liked shrimp scampi ,too.

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<quoted text>Nope, you're still not exlaining cycling patterned natural systems.
Compared to what YOU have "taught" us, the single paragraph I supplied earlier is a friggin LIBRARY of information.
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Compared to what YOU have "taught" us, the single paragraph I supplied earlier is a friggin LIBRARY of information.
I don't see anything you supplied related to the group of propositions we are explaining.

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<quoted text>I don't see anything you supplied related to the group of propositions we are explaining.
You have never explained anything comprehensible, but have explained everything it in a way intangible and inconceivable.

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