Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The plant we know as corn is a kind of grass. Over time it was selected to serve up plump grains which are seeds. This kind is like a flowering plant, but it produces seperate male and female flowering parts and the male structure produces pollen while the silks snag the pollen from the wind. It is a flowering grass but doesn't need insect pollinators. It is what it is and it is a chosen kind.

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<quoted text>Corn is a kind of plant that has been changed by selective seed planting. The basic structure that carries the units of heredity that is tansferred from the original kind is just producing selected results.
still , they made a new species.

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So the corn evolved over 10,000 years huh?
with a little help..but yes.
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>still , they made a new species.
It is a kind.

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<quoted text>It is a kind.
you are saying that corn and the teosinte grass it came from are the same species? did we invent a new definition of species?
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you are saying that corn and the teosinte grass it came from are the same species? did we invent a new definition of species?
No, it is a flowering plant and it is in a family of kinds. Its potential was in it from the beginning to form the grain and man just brought it out. Similar plants are in this family like the lilie and the banana and even the palm tree and they have what they are within themselves.

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<quoted text>No, it is a flowering plant and it is in a family of kinds. Its potential was in it from the beginning to form the grain and man just brought it out. Similar plants are in this family like the lilie and the banana and even the palm tree and they have what they are within themselves.
so you think teosinte was planned to turn into corn? sure...

it is a new species that evolved from another one.
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<quoted text>so you think teosinte was planned to turn into corn? sure...
it is a new species that evolved from another one.
It had the ability to become what it is from the beginning and man just brought out the part that they wanted in the plump seeds.

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<quoted text>It had the ability to become what it is from the beginning and man just brought out the part that they wanted in the plump seeds.
no, it needed environmental pressure to change completely into a new species.

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<quoted text>with a little help..but yes.
I would say more than just a little, in fact if it were not for selective planting, corn would not exist.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I would say more than just a little, in fact if it were not for selective planting, corn would not exist.
kind of like animals finding the big kernel grass better and eating and pooping that out?
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#88615
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<quoted text>still , they made a new species.
Sure they did.
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<quoted text>It is a kind.
let him believe man created corn.

LOL

What a Dolt he is.
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let him believe man created corn.
LOL
What a Dolt he is.
I really don't like to insult people here.

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let him believe man created corn.
LOL
What a Dolt he is.
Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
If you change a plant to make it better suit your needs, you have just made what was there work better for a purpose.
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Who knows?

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<quoted text>If you change a plant to make it better suit your needs, you have just made what was there work better for a purpose.
Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. Then it is a creation of sorts, though true the plants themselves were not created but modified by selective breeding.
It is still a creation of something better.
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<quoted text> Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. Then it is a creation of sorts, though true the plants themselves were not created but modified by selective breeding.
It is still a creation of something better.
Yes, but when we do boil it down, in the end all we have done is made some changes to work for us.
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<quoted text>Yes, but when we do boil it down, in the end all we have done is made some changes to work for us.
"Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. "

Given billions and billions of years this would never happen?

Then how in billions of years did life spring forth at all?

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