Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173989 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88610 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>No, it is a flowering plant and it is in a family of kinds. Its potential was in it from the beginning to form the grain and man just brought it out. Similar plants are in this family like the lilie and the banana and even the palm tree and they have what they are within themselves.
so you think teosinte was planned to turn into corn? sure...

it is a new species that evolved from another one.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#88611 May 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so you think teosinte was planned to turn into corn? sure...
it is a new species that evolved from another one.
It had the ability to become what it is from the beginning and man just brought out the part that they wanted in the plump seeds.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88612 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>It had the ability to become what it is from the beginning and man just brought out the part that they wanted in the plump seeds.
no, it needed environmental pressure to change completely into a new species.

“The Edge”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#88613 May 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>with a little help..but yes.
I would say more than just a little, in fact if it were not for selective planting, corn would not exist.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88614 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I would say more than just a little, in fact if it were not for selective planting, corn would not exist.
kind of like animals finding the big kernel grass better and eating and pooping that out?
KJV

United States

#88615 May 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>still , they made a new species.
Sure they did.
KJV

United States

#88616 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>It is a kind.
let him believe man created corn.

LOL

What a Dolt he is.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#88617 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
let him believe man created corn.
LOL
What a Dolt he is.
I really don't like to insult people here.

“The Edge”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#88618 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
let him believe man created corn.
LOL
What a Dolt he is.
Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#88619 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.
http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
If you change a plant to make it better suit your needs, you have just made what was there work better for a purpose.
Mark

United States

#88620 May 5, 2013
Who knows?

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“The Edge”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#88621 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>If you change a plant to make it better suit your needs, you have just made what was there work better for a purpose.
Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. Then it is a creation of sorts, though true the plants themselves were not created but modified by selective breeding.
It is still a creation of something better.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#88622 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. Then it is a creation of sorts, though true the plants themselves were not created but modified by selective breeding.
It is still a creation of something better.
Yes, but when we do boil it down, in the end all we have done is made some changes to work for us.
KJV

United States

#88624 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but when we do boil it down, in the end all we have done is made some changes to work for us.
"Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. "

Given billions and billions of years this would never happen?

Then how in billions of years did life spring forth at all?
KJV

United States

#88625 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
"Man did create corn"

Bawhaahaaahaahaa

A_Myth makes up myths!

LOL
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#88626 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. "
Given billions and billions of years this would never happen?
Then how in billions of years did life spring forth at all?
Genesis 1:12 tells us God saw that grass was good and on that same day he saw the herbs and the fruit tree. It may have been for food in the beginning.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88627 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Man did create corn"
Bawhaahaaahaahaa
A_Myth makes up myths!
LOL
You are confused about the definition of a myth:

1
a : a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon
b : parable, allegory
2
a : a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society <seduced by the American myth of individualism Orde Coombs>
b : an unfounded or false notion
3
: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence
4
: the whole body of myths

Please note that none of those definitions apply to a concept that is supported by scientific evidence. They do apply to the fairy tales from the Bible.
KJV

United States

#88628 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
History and Origin
For western civilization, the story of corn began in 1492 when Columbus's men discovered this new grain in Cuba. An American native, it was exported to Europe rather than being imported, as were other major grains.
Like most early history, there is some uncertainty as to when corn first went to Europe. Some say it went back with Columbus to Spain, while others report that it was not returned to Spain until the second visit of Columbus.
The word "corn" has many different meanings depending on what country you are in. Corn in the United States is also called maize or Indian corn. In some countries, corn means the leading crop grown in a certain district. Corn in England means wheat; in Scotland and Ireland, it refers to oats. Corn mentioned in the Bible probably refers to wheat or barley.
At first, corn was only a garden curiosity in Europe, but it soon began to be recognized as a valuable food crop. Within a few years, it spread throughout France, Italy, and all of southeastern Europe and northern Africa. By 1575, it was making its way into western China, and had become important in the Philippines and the East Indies.
Although corn is indigenous to the western hemisphere, its exact birthplace is far less certain. Archeological evidence of corn's early presence in the western hemisphere was identified from corn pollen grain considered to be 80,000 years old obtained from drill cores 200 feet below Mexico City. Another archeological study of the bat caves in New Mexico revealed corncobs that were 5,600 years old by radiocarbon determination. Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88629 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>It is a kind.
Still waiting for a definition of "kind" that doesn't fall apart.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88630 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
History and Origin
For western civilization, the story of corn began in 1492 when Columbus's men discovered this new grain in Cuba. An American native, it was exported to Europe rather than being imported, as were other major grains.
Like most early history, there is some uncertainty as to when corn first went to Europe. Some say it went back with Columbus to Spain, while others report that it was not returned to Spain until the second visit of Columbus.
The word "corn" has many different meanings depending on what country you are in. Corn in the United States is also called maize or Indian corn. In some countries, corn means the leading crop grown in a certain district. Corn in England means wheat; in Scotland and Ireland, it refers to oats. Corn mentioned in the Bible probably refers to wheat or barley.
At first, corn was only a garden curiosity in Europe, but it soon began to be recognized as a valuable food crop. Within a few years, it spread throughout France, Italy, and all of southeastern Europe and northern Africa. By 1575, it was making its way into western China, and had become important in the Philippines and the East Indies.
Although corn is indigenous to the western hemisphere, its exact birthplace is far less certain. Archeological evidence of corn's early presence in the western hemisphere was identified from corn pollen grain considered to be 80,000 years old obtained from drill cores 200 feet below Mexico City. Another archeological study of the bat caves in New Mexico revealed corncobs that were 5,600 years old by radiocarbon determination. Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.
So now you accept radiocarbon dating. Since you're being a hypocrite, your entire assertion is a fallacy.

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