Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216890 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

Mark

Denver, CO

#88620 May 5, 2013
Who knows?

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“e pluribus unum”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#88621 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>If you change a plant to make it better suit your needs, you have just made what was there work better for a purpose.
Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. Then it is a creation of sorts, though true the plants themselves were not created but modified by selective breeding.
It is still a creation of something better.
FREE SERVANT
#88622 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. Then it is a creation of sorts, though true the plants themselves were not created but modified by selective breeding.
It is still a creation of something better.
Yes, but when we do boil it down, in the end all we have done is made some changes to work for us.
KJV

United States

#88624 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but when we do boil it down, in the end all we have done is made some changes to work for us.
"Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. "

Given billions and billions of years this would never happen?

Then how in billions of years did life spring forth at all?
KJV

United States

#88625 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
"Man did create corn"

Bawhaahaaahaahaa

A_Myth makes up myths!

LOL
FREE SERVANT
#88626 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. "
Given billions and billions of years this would never happen?
Then how in billions of years did life spring forth at all?
Genesis 1:12 tells us God saw that grass was good and on that same day he saw the herbs and the fruit tree. It may have been for food in the beginning.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88627 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Man did create corn"
Bawhaahaaahaahaa
A_Myth makes up myths!
LOL
You are confused about the definition of a myth:

1
a : a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon
b : parable, allegory
2
a : a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society <seduced by the American myth of individualism — Orde Coombs>
b : an unfounded or false notion
3
: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence
4
: the whole body of myths

Please note that none of those definitions apply to a concept that is supported by scientific evidence. They do apply to the fairy tales from the Bible.
KJV

United States

#88628 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Man did create corn, it didn't exist over 10,000 years ago. We cultivated it using selected seeds to plant
and cross pollinated it to create a new species more robust and desirable as a food.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/variat...
History and Origin
For western civilization, the story of corn began in 1492 when Columbus's men discovered this new grain in Cuba. An American native, it was exported to Europe rather than being imported, as were other major grains.
Like most early history, there is some uncertainty as to when corn first went to Europe. Some say it went back with Columbus to Spain, while others report that it was not returned to Spain until the second visit of Columbus.
The word "corn" has many different meanings depending on what country you are in. Corn in the United States is also called maize or Indian corn. In some countries, corn means the leading crop grown in a certain district. Corn in England means wheat; in Scotland and Ireland, it refers to oats. Corn mentioned in the Bible probably refers to wheat or barley.
At first, corn was only a garden curiosity in Europe, but it soon began to be recognized as a valuable food crop. Within a few years, it spread throughout France, Italy, and all of southeastern Europe and northern Africa. By 1575, it was making its way into western China, and had become important in the Philippines and the East Indies.
Although corn is indigenous to the western hemisphere, its exact birthplace is far less certain. Archeological evidence of corn's early presence in the western hemisphere was identified from corn pollen grain considered to be 80,000 years old obtained from drill cores 200 feet below Mexico City. Another archeological study of the bat caves in New Mexico revealed corncobs that were 5,600 years old by radiocarbon determination. Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88629 May 5, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>It is a kind.
Still waiting for a definition of "kind" that doesn't fall apart.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88630 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
History and Origin
For western civilization, the story of corn began in 1492 when Columbus's men discovered this new grain in Cuba. An American native, it was exported to Europe rather than being imported, as were other major grains.
Like most early history, there is some uncertainty as to when corn first went to Europe. Some say it went back with Columbus to Spain, while others report that it was not returned to Spain until the second visit of Columbus.
The word "corn" has many different meanings depending on what country you are in. Corn in the United States is also called maize or Indian corn. In some countries, corn means the leading crop grown in a certain district. Corn in England means wheat; in Scotland and Ireland, it refers to oats. Corn mentioned in the Bible probably refers to wheat or barley.
At first, corn was only a garden curiosity in Europe, but it soon began to be recognized as a valuable food crop. Within a few years, it spread throughout France, Italy, and all of southeastern Europe and northern Africa. By 1575, it was making its way into western China, and had become important in the Philippines and the East Indies.
Although corn is indigenous to the western hemisphere, its exact birthplace is far less certain. Archeological evidence of corn's early presence in the western hemisphere was identified from corn pollen grain considered to be 80,000 years old obtained from drill cores 200 feet below Mexico City. Another archeological study of the bat caves in New Mexico revealed corncobs that were 5,600 years old by radiocarbon determination. Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.
So now you accept radiocarbon dating. Since you're being a hypocrite, your entire assertion is a fallacy.

“e pluribus unum”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#88632 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Absolutely, but when it boils down to it didn't happen on it's own and never would have happened on it's own. "
Given billions and billions of years this would never happen?
Then how in billions of years did life spring forth at all?
We aren't talking about life , we are talking about a specific cultivation of a lifeform. See what I mean? It's ok if you cannot see or C.

“e pluribus unum”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#88633 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"Man did create corn"
Bawhaahaaahaahaa
A_Myth makes up myths!
LOL
Do you really have a problem with the actual history of the cultivation of plant species man has intervened and progressed in? Or will you deny the accumulation of human experience and knowledge?

“e pluribus unum”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#88634 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
History and Origin
For western civilization, the story of corn began in 1492 when Columbus's men discovered this new grain in Cuba. An American native, it was exported to Europe rather than being imported, as were other major grains.
Like most early history, there is some uncertainty as to when corn first went to Europe. Some say it went back with Columbus to Spain, while others report that it was not returned to Spain until the second visit of Columbus.
The word "corn" has many different meanings depending on what country you are in. Corn in the United States is also called maize or Indian corn. In some countries, corn means the leading crop grown in a certain district. Corn in England means wheat; in Scotland and Ireland, it refers to oats. Corn mentioned in the Bible probably refers to wheat or barley.
At first, corn was only a garden curiosity in Europe, but it soon began to be recognized as a valuable food crop. Within a few years, it spread throughout France, Italy, and all of southeastern Europe and northern Africa. By 1575, it was making its way into western China, and had become important in the Philippines and the East Indies.
Although corn is indigenous to the western hemisphere, its exact birthplace is far less certain. Archeological evidence of corn's early presence in the western hemisphere was identified from corn pollen grain considered to be 80,000 years old obtained from drill cores 200 feet below Mexico City. Another archeological study of the bat caves in New Mexico revealed corncobs that were 5,600 years old by radiocarbon determination. Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.
Are you really too stupid to figure this "your own statement" out?

Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.

Go figure awhile, when you puzzle this out.
Then come and play.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88635 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Do you really have a problem with the actual history of the cultivation of plant species man has intervened and progressed in? Or will you deny the accumulation of human experience and knowledge?
Religious people like to credit their imaginary friend with the advances of everyone else so they can feel superior.
KJV

United States

#88636 May 5, 2013
Throw out all those posters and books that depict an ape evolving into a human being, says Kent State University Professor of Anthropology Dr. C. Owen Lovejoy. An internationally recognized biological anthropologist who specializes in the study of human origins, Lovejoy is one of the primary authors who revealed their research findings today on Ardipithecus ramidus, a hominid species that lived 4.4 million years ago in what is now Ethiopia. "People often think we evolved from apes, but no, apes in many ways evolved from us," Lovejoy said
KJV

United States

#88637 May 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Are you really too stupid to figure this "your own statement" out?

Most historians believe corn was domesticated in the Tehuacan Valley of Mexico. The original wild form has long been extinct.

Go figure awhile, when you puzzle this out.
Then come and play.
But you said man created corn.

Did man create tulips? Orchids? Roses?

Nut job alert!!!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#88638 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
Throw out all those posters and books that depict an ape evolving into a human being, says Kent State University Professor of Anthropology Dr. C. Owen Lovejoy. An internationally recognized biological anthropologist who specializes in the study of human origins, Lovejoy is one of the primary authors who revealed their research findings today on Ardipithecus ramidus, a hominid species that lived 4.4 million years ago in what is now Ethiopia. "People often think we evolved from apes, but no, apes in many ways evolved from us," Lovejoy said
Another scientist that KJV cannot understand.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88639 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
Throw out all those posters and books that depict an ape evolving into a human being, says Kent State University Professor of Anthropology Dr. C. Owen Lovejoy. An internationally recognized biological anthropologist who specializes in the study of human origins, Lovejoy is one of the primary authors who revealed their research findings today on Ardipithecus ramidus, a hominid species that lived 4.4 million years ago in what is now Ethiopia. "People often think we evolved from apes, but no, apes in many ways evolved from us," Lovejoy said
Quote mining, your one skill, but any learned person knows you are quote mining.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#88640 May 5, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Quote mining, your one skill, but any learned person knows you are quote mining.
Especially considering the fact he was talking about evidence 3.94 million years before the universe existed, according to him.

“e pluribus unum”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#88641 May 5, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
But you said man created corn.
Did man create tulips? Orchids? Roses?
Nut job alert!!!
Man created corn from teosinte.
But first it was transformed into maize. Maize was cross pollinated
to create corn.

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