Evolution vs. Creation

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#88434 May 1, 2013
My Portal wrote:
<quoted text>Nice spin. You will have to show me where it states that in the Bible. It does however state just the opposite. Thou Shall Not Do Murder.
Ah yes, but murder isn't necessarily defined as killing. You should know this because there's PLENTY of examples of killing in the name of God or BY God in the Bible. That is why the Bible says it's OKAY to kill someone for interpreting omens.

So do you believe in witches and should they be killed?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#88436 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Then don't be like KK and whine about evil because there isn't any, there's only needs and wants. One mans evil is anothers good fortune.
I let you do the whining. I merely point out the hypocrisy of creationists.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#88437 May 1, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
"Okay. But that doesn't settle the problem of how paleontologists only report dinosaurs in deeper soil and cavemen in more shallow soil.
If humans and dinosaurs walked the earth together, then the tally should be something like: "
Couple of things here
In the after math of a huge flood the heaviest animal would settle to the bottom first.
Then modern male leatherback turtles should always be found at the bottom, along with all the biggest dinos because they never go on land and sink like a rock when they're dead. Simply not the case.
Mary Magdalena wrote:
Second, men and dinosaurs foot tracks in the same ledge rock in many places around the world.
Simply not the case. There are no modern fossils buried with dinosaurs, period.
Mary Magdalena wrote:
Men named the different layers of mud not God.
Doesn't matter. What God did with the layers does. There's no evidence God ever made a global flood. In fact there's no scientific evidence of a God at all.

Meaning that IF such a being exists, it did things VERY different to what you think it did. And you are therefore rejecting God's creation for the sake of idolizing an ancient religious book written by superstitious men thousands of years ago. Hence you are committing the sin of idolatry.
Mary Magdalena wrote:
Christians know that a layer of mud does not mean millions of years of dust settling.
www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html
Mary Magdalena wrote:
Animals have to be buried fast in order to be fossilized.
In order for animals to be fossilized as fast as you need them to be, the same forces would also rip them to shreds leaving us with nothing to fossilize. But then you have no concept of catastrophism.
Mary Magdalena wrote:
You always hear of huge mixes of fossilized dinosaurs bones, like what a flood might leave behind.
Floods, yes. One big global flood, no. Because one big global flood would not leave ANYTHING behind. Including Noah and his buddies on his dinky little boat. All gone bye bye. Meaning none of us are here to be able to talk about it.

Oh wait - we ARE here.

Therefore there was no global flood.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#88438 May 1, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Duh! So, you prefer your un-supported exaggeration? 6 million years. Lol.
He didn't make that claim. Which is good too, since that's still way too young.

By the way, Brazil owns English.

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#88439 May 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
He didn't make that claim. Which is good too, since that's still way too young.
By the way, Brazil owns English.
Wake up, Ducky.
bohart

Newport, TN

#88440 May 1, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
That's about as wrong as you can be.
Rape resulting in a pregnancy that results in a child .....
Is criminal genes being passed on. Not necessarily stronger better or anything other than genes passed due to a criminal act.
Genocide is murder another criminal act, natural selection encompasses far more reasons than a criminal act that forces it's selection, which BTW is FORCED SELECTION. Or an unnatural selection.
Wrong! natural selection does NOT decide what is a crime that is a moral choice ! Two apes fight and one kills the other is not murder, according to the evolutionists we are apes right?
bohart

Newport, TN

#88441 May 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
"Evil" is also subjective.
Your a nut!

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#88442 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Your a nut!
That's it? A misspelled retort that's three words with no content or any relevance to the comment quoted? Alright then, prove "evil" is not subjective.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#88443 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Your a nut!
Why? She's right.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#88445 May 1, 2013
If you want to see how deeply sick and perverted the Christian named "Maria Magdalena" is, go to:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#88446 May 1, 2013
Gillette wrote:
If you want to see how deeply sick and perverted the Christian named "Maria Magdalena" is, go to:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
*sigh*

One remains unastounded.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#88447 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong! natural selection does NOT decide what is a crime that is a moral choice ! Two apes fight and one kills the other is not murder, according to the evolutionists we are apes right?
No, it was a creationist who pointed out that humans are apes. And he was correct. His name was Carl Linnaeus.

Whether or not killing someone is classed as murder depends upon the situations involved and the laws of the land. You will find those laws to be different in each country. And sometimes between different states in the same country. This is because humans invented rules to deal with situations that affect society. All rules are arbitrary.
Prime

Walnut, CA

#88448 May 1, 2013
testing

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#88449 May 1, 2013
Prime wrote:
testing
5X5.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#88450 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Your a nut!
Not really since as we've pointed out, all rules are made up. You on the other hand claim all morals come from an invisible magic Jewish wizard that said incest, rape and mass genocide is all good, and that you agree. However if I'm wrong about you being a creationist do please make it clear.
bohart

Newport, TN

#88451 May 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really since as we've pointed out, all rules are made up. You on the other hand claim all morals come from an invisible magic Jewish wizard that said incest, rape and mass genocide is all good, and that you agree. However if I'm wrong about you being a creationist do please make it clear.
If all rules are ,...just made up...then there is no right and wrong, only someones opinion, therefore rape ,incest and genocide may be perfectly okay in someones view and is equal to your view. Unless you are appealing to some standard, are you?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#88452 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong! natural selection does NOT decide what is a crime that is a moral choice ! Two apes fight and one kills the other is not murder, according to the evolutionists we are apes right?
You've been told a thousand times that NO we are no apes. We share a common ancestor. Can you understand that?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#88453 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong! natural selection does NOT decide what is a crime that is a moral choice ! Two apes fight and one kills the other is not murder, according to the evolutionists we are apes right?
We are apes, but that has nothing to do with what you are saying.
We have laws that determine whether two apes fighting is or is not a crime. Natural selection in the wild could be two apes fighting for male dominance and breeding rights, but that hardly applies to humans. If you kill Larry to breed with Shaquanna your monkey ass is going to jail to be Bubba's new little beotch.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88454 May 1, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
If all rules are ,...just made up...then there is no right and wrong, only someones opinion, therefore rape ,incest and genocide may be perfectly okay in someones view and is equal to your view. Unless you are appealing to some standard, are you?
you think there is some universal right and wrong? who or what set that up? what is your proof of that who or what?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#88455 May 1, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>5X5.
42. no wait...damn, where's my towel? i'm panicking!!!

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