Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173665 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

KJV

United States

#87242 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Not only that, check out this verse: Matthew 12 40:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Oh oh...
"Matthew 12:40 and discover the true story. Jesus said, "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Now turn to John 11:9 and read this rhetorical question by Jesus, "Are there not twelve hours of daylight?" By putting these two verses together we see Jesus establishes he would spend in the heart of the earth 36 hours (3x12) for day and 36 hours (3x12) for night. Therefore, we know the three days and three nights he spoke of in Matthew 12 would have to equal 72 hours. In John 19:31 we read, "Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath…" Therefore, we see that the Sabbath in John 19:31 is not the regular Saturday Sabbath observed on
non-festival weeks, but rather a special Passover Sabbath, which commenced on Wednesday at sunset, rather than Friday at sunset. Not only did it start on Wednesday at sunset... but it continued on through three days until Saturday at sunset when the Passover celebration ended. This is why you read about the women returning to Jesus' tomb early on the first day of the week (Sunday). This is because the special 3 day Sabbath had ended and they were very eager to get back to the tomb to add more spices to his body. So now that we see Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, let's go to Luke 23: 44-46 to pinpoint the time he died. "It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour… Jesus called out with a loud voice, Father into your hands I commit
my spirit. When he had said this, he breathed his last." When it says the ninth hour, it means the ninth hour since the break of day. In other words, it was about three o'clock in the afternoon when Jesus died. Then after obtaining permission from Pilate,(which could have easily taken 1-2 hours) Jesus was taken down from the cross and hurriedly buried just before sundown, probably sometime around 6:00 p.m. Remember that Jewish Sabbath days begins at sundown on one day and end at sundown the next. In Leviticus 23:32, God stated, "From the evening… until the following evening you are to observe your Sabbath." So if you count 72 hours from late Wednesday afternoon at around 5-6:00 p.m., you will see that Jesus would have risen and left his tomb at around 5-6:00 p.m. on Saturday. Therefore, a Sunday resurrection is not what the Bible reveals to us at all." Continued.....
KJV

United States

#87243 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Not only that, check out this verse: Matthew 12 40:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Oh oh...
"We do read in Luke 24: 1-3, "On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus." Clearly, those who arrived at the tomb early Sunday morning discovered an empty tomb, not Jesus rising from the dead in front of them. So to answer your question… "How did Jesus die on Friday and rise on Sunday and is said to have been dead for 3 days?" He didn't die on Friday… being the Son of God, his divine spirit departed his human body while on the cross Wednesday afternoon, his earthly body was then placed in a tomb near sunset that same day. His spirit returned to his body at sunset on Saturday to resurrect as a glorified earthly body. His body was soon discovered missing from the tomb early Sunday morning by his followers.
Which begs the question - where did his spirit go for those three days? Many bible verses are involved, but the summary is this... he went to Paradise (in the heart of the earth) and took all there to heaven. Paradise was a temporal place for believers of the "Coming Messiah" from the Garden of Eden to The Cross. The last person to enter Paradise was one of the criminals who hung on the cross next to Jesus. The reason believers of the "Coming Messiah" could not enter heaven upon their death, was due to the fact that Jesus had to die on the cross for the sins of all mankind - past, present and
future so they could obtain right standing with God through the substitutionary atonement of His death on the cross. Jesus rightfully so... went straight to Paradise to bring the Old Testament believers to heaven, as they now had right standing with God. In Paradise were famous believers like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Daniel, Jeremiah, and many others too numerous to list. As well as the throngs of nameless believers of the Old Testament. Therefore, Jesus was quite busy those three days with moving multitudes of believers from Paradise to Heaven, and getting them settled into their new mansion homes in heaven. What a glorious time that must have been! Three days later, he returned to his human body on earth, rose from the dead, and remained on earth for an additional forty days. He performed many important tasks during this time, with the most important being to prepare the disciples for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, ten days after his ascension, on the Day of Pentecost. "
KJV

United States

#87244 Apr 21, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hehehe.

Sundown Friday until dawn Sunday.

About a day and a half.

I did the arithmetic, too.
Feel pretty stupid using bad data for you arithmetic?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#87245 Apr 21, 2013
KJV, I see that you still did not read your own Bible.

Jesus said specifically that he would be dead three days and three nights.

Let's do the math. Crucifixion is supposed to be a slow death, but they rushed it a bit for Jesus probably because there was a high holiday coming up. So instead of taking a day or two it was done in only one afternoon. So dead late Friday afternoon, let's say 5:00 PM, though it could have been later. It is very doubtful that it would be much earlier.

So we start the clock. 5:00 PM to 5:00 AM Saturday is close enough to call one night. 5:00 Am Saturday to 5:00 PM Saturday and now we are at one night and one day. 5:00 PM Saturday until 5:00 AM Sunday morning and we have Two nights and one day. That is close enough to the latest he would have risen by since we know that the first women arrived at just about sunrise, none of the Gospels is sure whether it was before or after sunrise, but at any rate Jesus was up and gone by then. Sine he definitely would have to have undergone the three S's first 5:00 AM is a perfectly reasonable time.

So Jesus was dead two nights and one day. And yet he predicted he would be dead a full 3 nights and 3 days.

What happened? Are you saying that Jesus can't count? Are you saying that the apostles panicked and robbed the grave too soon?

At any rate Jesus did not follow his own prophesy.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#87246 Apr 21, 2013
LOL, I missed the post where KJV is trying to upset 2,000 years of Christian tradition by claiming that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and rose Saturday afternoon. It was such an embarrassing claim he forgot to source it. In other words even KJV knows that it is a pathetic lie.
KJV

United States

#87247 Apr 21, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Oops, I confused that one with one of the others, but it is still a fake, and easy to demonstrate why:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21572...
"new evidence to support the view that the shroud is real.

Scientists at the University of Padua in Northern Italy have conducted experiments that show the shroud dates back to around the time of Christ's life, according to an article in the Daily Telegraph newspaper.

The researchers used infra-red light to analyze fibers from the shroud. Their analysis was published in the new book, "Il Mistero della Sindone" (The Mystery of the Shroud") by Giulio Fanti, a professor of mechanical and thermal measurement at the university, and Saverio Gaeta, a journalist, the Telegraph also reported."

“The Edge”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#87248 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
KJV, I see that you still did not read your own Bible.
Jesus said specifically that he would be dead three days and three nights.
Let's do the math. Crucifixion is supposed to be a slow death, but they rushed it a bit for Jesus probably because there was a high holiday coming up. So instead of taking a day or two it was done in only one afternoon. So dead late Friday afternoon, let's say 5:00 PM, though it could have been later. It is very doubtful that it would be much earlier.
So we start the clock. 5:00 PM to 5:00 AM Saturday is close enough to call one night. 5:00 Am Saturday to 5:00 PM Saturday and now we are at one night and one day. 5:00 PM Saturday until 5:00 AM Sunday morning and we have Two nights and one day. That is close enough to the latest he would have risen by since we know that the first women arrived at just about sunrise, none of the Gospels is sure whether it was before or after sunrise, but at any rate Jesus was up and gone by then. Sine he definitely would have to have undergone the three S's first 5:00 AM is a perfectly reasonable time.
So Jesus was dead two nights and one day. And yet he predicted he would be dead a full 3 nights and 3 days.
What happened? Are you saying that Jesus can't count? Are you saying that the apostles panicked and robbed the grave too soon?
At any rate Jesus did not follow his own prophesy.
Yeah maybe they ruined it by not letting him stay dead long enough?
lol

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#87249 Apr 21, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"new evidence to support the view that the shroud is real.
Scientists at the University of Padua in Northern Italy have conducted experiments that show the shroud dates back to around the time of Christ's life, according to an article in the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
The researchers used infra-red light to analyze fibers from the shroud. Their analysis was published in the new book, "Il Mistero della Sindone" (The Mystery of the Shroud") by Giulio Fanti, a professor of mechanical and thermal measurement at the university, and Saverio Gaeta, a journalist, the Telegraph also reported."
Then link your evidence.

Come on this is not the 20th century any longer. Your information is out on the internet somewhere.
KJV

United States

#87250 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Let's be more specific, the universe as we know it had a beginning.

That does not rule out the possibility of a universe before the Big Bang. That point is simply as far back as we can extrapolate.

And even if the universe began at the Big Bang that is hardly evidence for a god.
No, not as we know it. Science never published their claim with your daft net attached.

"As we know it." LOL

"The Universe is commonly defined as the totality of existence, including planets, stars, galaxies, the contents of intergalactic space, and ALL matter and energy.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
Definition of universe

noun
1 (the universe) ALL existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos. The universe is believed to be at least 10 billion light years in diameter and contains a vast number of galaxies; it has been expanding since its creation in the Big Bang about 13 billion years ago.

Origin:
late Middle English: from Old French univers or Latin universum, neuter of universus 'combined into one, whole', from uni-'one'+ versus 'turned'(past participle of vertere)

universe in other Oxford dictionaries
Definition of universe in the US English dictionary

http://www.definitions.net/definition/univers...

universe, existence, creation, world, cosmos, macrocosm(noun)
everything that exists anywhere
"they study the evolution of the universe"; "the biggest tree in existence.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe

Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :cosmos: as a : a systematic whole held to arise by and persist through the direct intervention of divine power b : the world of human experience c (1): the entire celestial cosmos (2): milky way galaxy (3):an aggregate of stars comparable to the Milky Way galaxy 2 : a distinct field or province of thought or reality that forms a closed system or self-inclusive and independent organization 3 : population 4 : a set that contains ALL elements relevant to a particular discussion or problem 5 : a great number or quantity <a large enough universe of stocks … to choose from — G. B. Clairmont>"
KJV

United States

#87251 Apr 21, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Even if you were correct good Friday was spent above ground all day.
So it would be Thursday & Saturday in the ground.
Unless you want to try and say he was crucified in a cave.
You are incorrect. But nothing new about that is there.

"Matthew 12:40 and discover the true story. Jesus said, "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Now turn to John 11:9 and read this rhetorical question by Jesus, "Are there not twelve hours of daylight?" By putting these two verses together we see Jesus establishes he would spend in the heart of the earth 36 hours (3x12) for day and 36 hours (3x12) for night. Therefore, we know the three days and three nights he spoke of in Matthew 12 would have to equal 72 hours. In John 19:31 we read, "Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath…" Therefore, we see that the Sabbath in John 19:31 is not the regular Saturday Sabbath observed on
non-festival weeks, but rather a special Passover Sabbath, which commenced on Wednesday at sunset, rather than Friday at sunset. Not only did it start on Wednesday at sunset... but it continued on through three days until Saturday at sunset when the Passover celebration ended. This is why you read about the women returning to Jesus' tomb early on the first day of the week (Sunday). This is because the special 3 day Sabbath had ended and they were very eager to get back to the tomb to add more spices to his body. So now that we see Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, let's go to Luke 23: 44-46 to pinpoint the time he died. "It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour… Jesus called out with a loud voice, Father into your hands I commit
my spirit. When he had said this, he breathed his last." When it says the ninth hour, it means the ninth hour since the break of day. In other words, it was about three o'clock in the afternoon when Jesus died. Then after obtaining permission from Pilate,(which could have easily taken 1-2 hours) Jesus was taken down from the cross and hurriedly buried just before sundown, probably sometime around 6:00 p.m. Remember that Jewish Sabbath days begins at sundown on one day and end at sundown the next. In Leviticus 23:32, God stated, "From the evening… until the following evening you are to observe your Sabbath." So if you count 72 hours from late Wednesday afternoon at around 5-6:00 p.m., you will see that Jesus would have risen and left his tomb at around 5-6:00 p.m. on Saturday. Therefore, a Sunday resurrection is not what the Bible reveals to us at all. "

More.....
KJV

United States

#87252 Apr 21, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Even if you were correct good Friday was spent above ground all day.
So it would be Thursday & Saturday in the ground.
Unless you want to try and say he was crucified in a cave.
Continued........

"We do read in Luke 24: 1-3, "On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus." Clearly, those who arrived at the tomb early Sunday morning discovered an empty tomb, not Jesus rising from the dead in front of them. So to answer your question… "How did Jesus die on Friday and rise on Sunday and is said to have been dead for 3 days?" He didn't die on Friday… being the Son of God, his divine spirit departed his human body while on the cross Wednesday afternoon, his earthly body was then placed in a tomb near sunset that same day. His spirit returned to his body at sunset on Saturday to resurrect as a glorified earthly body. His body was soon discovered missing from the tomb early Sunday morning by his followers.
Which begs the question - where did his spirit go for those three days? Many bible verses are involved, but the summary is this... he went to Paradise (in the heart of the earth) and took all there to heaven. Paradise was a temporal place for believers of the "Coming Messiah" from the Garden of Eden to The Cross. The last person to enter Paradise was one of the criminals who hung on the cross next to Jesus. The reason believers of the "Coming Messiah" could not enter heaven upon their death, was due to the fact that Jesus had to die on the cross for the sins of all mankind - past, present and
future so they could obtain right standing with God through the substitutionary atonement of His death on the cross. Jesus rightfully so... went straight to Paradise to bring the Old Testament believers to heaven, as they now had right standing with God. In Paradise were famous believers like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Daniel, Jeremiah, and many others too numerous to list. As well as the throngs of nameless believers of the Old Testament. Therefore, Jesus was quite busy those three days with moving multitudes of believers from Paradise to Heaven, and getting them settled into their new mansion homes in heaven. What a glorious time that must have been! Three days later, he returned to his human body on earth, rose from the dead, and remained on earth for an additional forty days. He performed many important tasks during this time, with the most important being to prepare the disciples for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, ten days after his ascension, on the Day of Pentecost. "

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#87253 Apr 21, 2013
KJV, you lose by going to a dictionary when debating scientific terms.

That is the mark of a pure loser.

I will find some article that back up my claims.

Meanwhile let's seem some real Biblical scholars that claim that Jesus died on a Wednesday afternoon and arose early Saturday evening.
KJV

United States

#87254 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
KJV, I see that you still did not read your own Bible.

Jesus said specifically that he would be dead three days and three nights.

Let's do the math. Crucifixion is supposed to be a slow death, but they rushed it a bit for Jesus probably because there was a high holiday coming up. So instead of taking a day or two it was done in only one afternoon. So dead late Friday afternoon, let's say 5:00 PM, though it could have been later. It is very doubtful that it would be much earlier.

So we start the clock. 5:00 PM to 5:00 AM Saturday is close enough to call one night. 5:00 Am Saturday to 5:00 PM Saturday and now we are at one night and one day. 5:00 PM Saturday until 5:00 AM Sunday morning and we have Two nights and one day. That is close enough to the latest he would have risen by since we know that the first women arrived at just about sunrise, none of the Gospels is sure whether it was before or after sunrise, but at any rate Jesus was up and gone by then. Sine he definitely would have to have undergone the three S's first 5:00 AM is a perfectly reasonable time.

So Jesus was dead two nights and one day. And yet he predicted he would be dead a full 3 nights and 3 days.

What happened? Are you saying that Jesus can't count? Are you saying that the apostles panicked and robbed the grave too soon?

At any rate Jesus did not follow his own prophesy.
"Friday afternoon"

Ooops look like you've not done your research.

"Matthew 12:40 and discover the true story. Jesus said, "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Now turn to John 11:9 and read this rhetorical question by Jesus, "Are there not twelve hours of daylight?" By putting these two verses together we see Jesus establishes he would spend in the heart of the earth 36 hours (3x12) for day and 36 hours (3x12) for night. Therefore, we know the three days and three nights he spoke of in Matthew 12 would have to equal 72 hours. In John 19:31 we read, "Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath…"

Continued.....
KJV

United States

#87255 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
KJV, I see that you still did not read your own Bible.

Jesus said specifically that he would be dead three days and three nights.

Let's do the math. Crucifixion is supposed to be a slow death, but they rushed it a bit for Jesus probably because there was a high holiday coming up. So instead of taking a day or two it was done in only one afternoon. So dead late Friday afternoon, let's say 5:00 PM, though it could have been later. It is very doubtful that it would be much earlier.

So we start the clock. 5:00 PM to 5:00 AM Saturday is close enough to call one night. 5:00 Am Saturday to 5:00 PM Saturday and now we are at one night and one day. 5:00 PM Saturday until 5:00 AM Sunday morning and we have Two nights and one day. That is close enough to the latest he would have risen by since we know that the first women arrived at just about sunrise, none of the Gospels is sure whether it was before or after sunrise, but at any rate Jesus was up and gone by then. Sine he definitely would have to have undergone the three S's first 5:00 AM is a perfectly reasonable time.

So Jesus was dead two nights and one day. And yet he predicted he would be dead a full 3 nights and 3 days.

What happened? Are you saying that Jesus can't count? Are you saying that the apostles panicked and robbed the grave too soon?

At any rate Jesus did not follow his own prophesy.
"Therefore, we see that the Sabbath in John 19:31 is not the regular Saturday Sabbath observed on non-festival weeks, but rather a special Passover Sabbath, which commenced on Wednesday at sunset, rather than Friday at sunset. Not only did it start on Wednesday at sunset... but it continued on through three days until Saturday at sunset when the Passover celebration ended. "

More......

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#87256 Apr 21, 2013
Ooh, an article aimed at KJV:

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-sta...

Probably still to difficult for him. As I said not all scientists think that the universe had to start at the Big Bang. Brane theory, which is part of string theory, states that it the Big Bang could have been the product of two Membranes colliding. Don't ask me, I don't know. All I do know is that the Big Bang may not be the start of everything. It was the start of our universe as we know it.

Right now string theory and all of its derivatives are not proper theories. At best they are untested hypotheses. Of course many scientific ideas when they first appeared were untested hypotheses. Even Galileo's work with gravity was an untested hypothesis until he ran his first experiments.
KJV

United States

#87257 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
KJV, I see that you still did not read your own Bible.

Jesus said specifically that he would be dead three days and three nights.
"This is why you read about the women returning to Jesus' tomb early on the first day of the week (Sunday). This is because the special 3 day Sabbath had ended and they were very eager to get back to the tomb to add more spices to his body. So now that we see Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, let's go to Luke 23: 44-46 to pinpoint the time he died. "It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour… Jesus called out with a loud voice, Father into your hands I commit
my spirit. When he had said this, he breathed his last." When it says the ninth hour, it means the ninth hour since the break of day. In other words, it was about three o'clock in the afternoon when Jesus died. Then after obtaining permission from Pilate,(which could have easily taken 1-2 hours) Jesus was taken down from the cross and hurriedly buried just before sundown, probably sometime around 6:00 p.m. Remember that Jewish Sabbath days begins at sundown on one day and end at sundown the next. In Leviticus 23:32, God stated, "From the evening… until the following evening you are to observe your Sabbath." So if you count 72 hours from late Wednesday afternoon at around 5-6:00 p.m., you will see that Jesus would have risen and left his tomb at around 5-6:00 p.m. on Saturday. Therefore, a Sunday resurrection is not what the Bible reveals to us at all. We do read in Luke 24: 1-3, "On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus." Clearly, those who arrived at the tomb early Sunday morning discovered an empty tomb, not Jesus rising from the dead in front of them. So to answer your question… "How did Jesus die on Friday and rise on Sunday and is said to have been dead for 3 days?" He didn't die on Friday… being the Son of God, his divine spirit departed his human body while on the cross Wednesday afternoon, his earthly body was then placed in a tomb near sunset that same day. His spirit returned to his body at sunset on Saturday to resurrect as a glorified earthly body.His body was soon discovered missing from the tomb early Sunday morning by his followers.
Which begs the question - where did his spirit go for those three days? Many bible verses are involved, but the summary is this... he went to Paradise (in the heart of the earth) and took all there to heaven. "

More....
KJV

United States

#87258 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
KJV, I see that you still did not read your own Bible.

Jesus said specifically that he would be dead three days and three nights.

Let's do the math. Crucifixion is supposed to be a slow death, but they rushed it a bit for Jesus probably because there was a high holiday coming up. So instead of taking a day or two it was done in only one afternoon. So dead late Friday afternoon, let's say 5:00 PM, though it could have been later. It is very doubtful that it would be much earlier.

So we start the clock. 5:00 PM to 5:00 AM Saturday is close enough to call one night. 5:00 Am Saturday to 5:00 PM Saturday and now we are at one night and one day. 5:00 PM Saturday until 5:00 AM Sunday morning and we have Two nights and one day. That is close enough to the latest he would have risen by since we know that the first women arrived at just about sunrise, none of the Gospels is sure whether it was before or after sunrise, but at any rate Jesus was up and gone by then. Sine he definitely would have to have undergone the three S's first 5:00 AM is a perfectly reasonable time.

So Jesus was dead two nights and one day. And yet he predicted he would be dead a full 3 nights and 3 days.

What happened? Are you saying that Jesus can't count? Are you saying that the apostles panicked and robbed the grave too soon?

At any rate Jesus did not follow his own prophesy.
"Paradise was a temporal place for believers of the "Coming Messiah" from the Garden of Eden to The Cross. The last person to enter Paradise was one of the criminals who hung on the cross next to Jesus. The reason believers of the "Coming Messiah" could not enter heaven upon their death, was due to the fact that Jesus had to die on the cross for the sins of all mankind - past, present and
future so they could obtain right standing with God through the substitutionary atonement of His death on the cross. Jesus rightfully so... went straight to Paradise to bring the Old Testament believers to heaven, as they now had right standing with God. In Paradise were famous believers like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Daniel, Jeremiah, and many others too numerous to list. As well as the throngs of nameless believers of the Old Testament. Therefore, Jesus was quite busy those three days with moving multitudes of believers from Paradise to Heaven, and getting them settled into their new mansion homes in heaven. What a glorious time that must have been! Three days later, he returned to his human body on earth, rose from the dead, and remained on earth for an additional forty days. He performed many important tasks during this time, with the most important being to prepare the disciples for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, ten days after his ascension, on the Day of Pentecost. "

“The Edge”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#87259 Apr 21, 2013
Must be the reason they call it apologetics .
Long long apology and excuses why the math doesn't add up and such by stretching the truth and lying about it.
KJV

United States

#87260 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
LOL, I missed the post where KJV is trying to upset 2,000 years of Christian tradition by claiming that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and rose Saturday afternoon. It was such an embarrassing claim he forgot to source it. In other words even KJV knows that it is a pathetic lie.
http://carm.org/how-long-was-jesus-dead-tomb
KJV

United States

#87261 Apr 21, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Then link your evidence.

Come on this is not the 20th century any longer. Your information is out on the internet somewhere.
http://carm.org/how-long-was-jesus-dead-tomb

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