Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222728 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“ad victoriam”

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#85663 Apr 10, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>I choose(while in THIS LIFE) to prepare for eternal life in the LIFE TO COME after this life passes away.
Best to watch your step in this one first. Or your preparation time may be cut short. Most of us think that choosing to make living
in THIS LIFE better for everyone is a far more noble deed , and the key to winning in life. After its over, well plenty of time for after life in the grave. But it's much better above ground, count your blessings.

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#85664 Apr 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> If you don't know it was the Romans that was persecuting and killing the Christians until God divinely intervened for the Christians. It is only a liar that can deny that( the truth).
You mean the rein of the psychopathic Romans finally came to an end.
It was belief in a imaginary god that helped this happen, I will give you that much. But the Renaissance happened because our brains started to work for a change. Some of us (you for one) need this imaginary big brother to function correctly, whilst the others
need no such imaginary friends to understand why we should do the right things.

It's just that simple.

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#85665 Apr 10, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Nope. You have not answered the question at all. Just avoided it because it screws you completely.
You say God has free will. Yet God cannot do something today that he did not already know he was going to do today. He has known forever what His future decisions and actions would be, because He knows everything about everything, past present and future.
Therefore God cannot make any new choices. God cannot change his mind and surprise himself with a decision he did not already know he would make since the beginning of time.
God has NO FREE WILL!
Do you?
And again, answer just this few questions.
Why are we not perfect when perfection are looking at us?
Why do we make a choice only to end up at times in disappointment?

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#85666 Apr 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> If you don't know it was the Romans that was persecuting and killing the Christians until God divinely intervened for the Christians. It is only a liar that can deny that( the truth).
Hmm. God divinely intervened for the christians?

When was that again, and what did he do?

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#85667 Apr 10, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Sound advice. Unfortunately you can't stop yourself.(shrug)
<quoted text>
Sorry, but there had been no record of divine intervention for centuries before the Christians controlled Rome. And even they were hearsay written at minimum decades later. However that isn't the point, since there was another Roman coup to counter the sudden Christian "empire", which was then countered by a counter-coup by Christians turning Rome Christian once again, until Rome eventually collapsed under Christian rule.
Must have been Divine Intervention.(shrug)
Just look at your self, Ducky.
The Christians never fought the Romans, but from your saying you lack the understanding of what divine intervention is, " atheist ".

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#85668 Apr 10, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Really? I thought your god was a god of infinity and eternal slavery?
Wake up!

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#85669 Apr 10, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You mean the rein of the psychopathic Romans finally came to an end.
It was belief in a imaginary god that helped this happen, I will give you that much. But the Renaissance happened because our brains started to work for a change. Some of us (you for one) need this imaginary big brother to function correctly, whilst the others
need no such imaginary friends to understand why we should do the right things.
It's just that simple.
Why do you hate reality.
Christianity as we all know, started from a small Jewish sect to become the official religion of the entire Roman empire, is that not awesome?
Learn to admit the truth even though , it is bitter.

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#85670 Apr 10, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hmm. God divinely intervened for the christians?
When was that again, and what did he do?
More and more of your ignorance.
History had it that they were persecuted and even killed by the Romans under Nero and other Emperors, but the spirit of the Christians never died, until God turn around the tide, under Emperor Constantine.
Get a clue on History.

“ad victoriam”

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#85671 Apr 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you hate reality.
Christianity as we all know, started from a small Jewish sect to become the official religion of the entire Roman empire, is that not awesome?
Learn to admit the truth even though , it is bitter.
Jews are Jewish not Christians dummy. It was monotheistic that was the reason, but awesome, no it was a phase of learning.
Most humans are as rudimentary as baboons.
KJV

United States

#85673 Apr 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i gotta keep proving what bullhshit the stuff you post is.
You've proven nothing except that you can't think for yourself.
KJV

United States

#85674 Apr 10, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>The whole problem is you try to impose limitation and define what is quite beyond your ability. But in the other hand limit what could be known because you have an ace card.

We all know what those tactics are....utter bull shit.
You brought nothing but a brain washed fundie to protest, realize we have identified this fundie who protests science. He goes by the handle "KJV".
Before we get to the science we need to make sure all you atheist know what words mean. You all seem to feel the need to twist definition of words.

The universe is every bit of matter and energy and space. I'm sorry you don't think that's correct but that's the meaning of the word universe.
KJV

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#85675 Apr 10, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>I'm glad you're glad.

BTW, I don't consider myself to be an atheist (in the common understanding of the term).
Well I'm Glad you're Glad that I'm Glad.

"BTW, I don't consider myself to be an atheist"

Oh boy! don't tell me that the atheist lost another one?

I'm sorry to hear that.
KJV

United States

#85676 Apr 10, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
<quoted text>I like apples. I don't care much for god and religion, but I like apples.
Well good for you.

I said when I read your first post that this is someone who know what they like and what they don't like.

You go for them apples.
KJV

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#85677 Apr 10, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>Roughly 14+- billion years.
Good. Now do you understand or agree that the universe is all matter, energy and space.

The Universe is commonly defined as the totality of existence, including planets, stars, galaxies, the contents of intergalactic space, and all matter and energy.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

Translate universe | into French | into German |into Italian | into Spanish
Definition of universe

noun

1 (the universe) all existing matter and space considered as a whole; the cosmos. The universe is believed to be at least 10 billion light years in diameter and contains a vast number of galaxies; it has been expanding since its creation in the Big Bang about 13 billion years ago.

Origin:
late Middle English: from Old French univers or Latin universum, neuter of universus 'combined into one, whole', from uni-'one'+ versus 'turned'(past participle of vertere)

universe in other Oxford dictionaries
Definition of universe in the US English dictionary

http://www.definitions.net/definition/univers...

universe, existence, creation, world, cosmos, macrocosm(noun)
everything that exists anywhere
"they study the evolution of the universe"; "the biggest tree in existence.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/universe

Main Entry: uni·verse
Pronunciation:\ˈyü-nə-ˌvə rs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter ofuniversus entire, whole, from uni-+versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth
Date: 14th century
1 : the whole body of things and phenomena observed or postulated :cosmos: as a : a systematic whole held to arise by and persist through the direct intervention of divine power b : the world of human experience c (1): the entire celestial cosmos (2): milky way galaxy (3):an aggregate of stars comparable to the Milky Way galaxy 2 : a distinct field or province of thought or reality that forms a closed system or self-inclusive and independent organization 3 : population 4 : a set that contains all elements relevant to a particular discussion or problem 5 : a great number or quantity <a large enough universe of stocks … to choose from — G. B. Clairmont>
KJV

United States

#85678 Apr 10, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>No, you are confused. A mutation is any change in the nucleotaides of the DNA molecule. It can be as small as a simple point change or as large as a whole chromosome duplication.

Most mutations have no effect at all. Some have a small positive or negative effects, and a very few have a lethal effect.

Mutating = man growing gills in a single generation is just nonsense. You clearly have no more idea of the real science of Mutation 101 than the fantasy writers of X-men.
Boy are you confused!!

Switching on or off genes is mutation
Mutating would fall under growing gills something our kind doesn't have at all.
Pointed ears or brown eyes is not a mutation.

Time to go back to school.

Mutation 101, the fantastic four. X-Men

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#85679 Apr 10, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Before we get to the science we need to make sure all you atheist know what words mean. You all seem to feel the need to twist definition of words.
The universe is every bit of matter and energy and space. I'm sorry you don't think that's correct but that's the meaning of the word universe.
I know what the universe is, and is made of.
You want to say it is the absolute limit and nothing exists beyond or outside but it, but you cannot possibly know that. Whats worse is that you're the believer arguing with me it's impossible for your own god to exist. Because if it is limited to this universe it simply does not exist. I'm not arguing it does exist, just laughing at your feeble attempt to conquer science , but are an epic fail.

Why don't you try explaining how your god can exist outside this universe. At least them you would make sense, because at your rate of denial , you will convince me there's no possible way your god exists.^^

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#85680 Apr 10, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Jews are Jewish not Christians dummy. It was monotheistic that was the reason, but awesome, no it was a phase of learning.
Most humans are as rudimentary as baboons.
Again wrong. Christianity is a religion started by the Jews. Jesus, Peter, James, John and other majority were all Jews. Do your home work, Dummy.
KJV

United States

#85681 Apr 10, 2013
Elohim wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure I do.
Well you're wrong. But that's nothing new for you.
KJV

United States

#85682 Apr 10, 2013
Elohim wrote:
<quoted text>Yes,I know your Jesus fable quite well.
I'm sure you don't.
KJV

United States

#85683 Apr 10, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Right, so what you're saying is that ALL religions in the world are actually all just great big massive dishonest liars for Jesus? Well done!
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