Evolution vs. Creation

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Elohim

Branford, CT

#85495 Apr 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> How so?
As expected you have no idea what the word means.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#85496 Apr 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
I can believe the needles part.
Of course you do. You and your cult have a sick need to wish pain and torture upon those who do not believe in your magic book.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#85497 Apr 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you don't know him. Like I said
Like I said, I do indeed no the fable of Christ.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#85498 Apr 9, 2013
...know the fable of Christ. Coffee hasn't take effect.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85499 Apr 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Likewise.
Now tell me and don't run away, did the Christians fought with the Romans before the religion was recognised?
Why, yes they did. You are not aware of this because you are ignorant of history.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#85500 Apr 9, 2013
Elohim wrote:
<quoted text>Of course you do. You and your cult have a sick need to wish pain and torture upon those who do not believe in your magic book.
Well, after so many centuries of not just wishing, but actually inflicting pain and torture and death on those that didn't believe as they did, this is all they have left...

nice cult, huh?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85501 Apr 9, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
<quoted text>
I ONLY <<<<<HATE> >>> PEOPLE WHO REJECT ABSOLUTE TRUTH! I DONíT GIVE A FLYING F**** WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN! THESE PEOPLE ARE NO GOOD AND YOU FALL IN THE CATEGORY OF NO GOOD PEOPLE!
PEOPLE LIKE YOU ONLY WANT THINGS THERE WAYS AND DONíT GIVE A SH!IT ABOUT PEOPLE ON THE UNIVERSAL SCALE!
ME AND YOUR KIND OF PEOPLE DONíT MIX AND NEVER WILL!
And I have not (yet) rejected absolute truth. I have rejected your CLAIMS of absolute truth, however that is something entirely different.
Eristotle

Indianapolis, IN

#85502 Apr 9, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
<quoted text>
How did you conclude that all creationists think the same way?! I donít build my understanding on faith! I build my understanding on absolute truths! Just because I am a creationists do not mean I think just like every-one you encounter who you label a creationist!
I am a non-religious and non-faithful creationist who only accepts and speak in absolute truths. I donít need faith to know GOD exists or to prove what morality is a simplified absolute truth and neither does anyone else who know how to choose for them-selves wisely!
People make their own decisions and have their own personal propaganda regardless what they call them-selves, all you need to do is just listen to the way they talk about how reality supposed to be.
Majority of people let their biased or prejudice ways in thinking (which leads to their emotions) influence their decision making. You canít do this when you speak about how reality (nature) works, because then your biased and prejudice way of thinking affects other people lives by the creation of civil or governmental laws on a universal scale because these laws are manifested by their flawed way of thinking!
These politicians, advisors and scientist and the presidents of any country fail to realize this and this is why we have conflict different laws in different countries which eventually lead to wars, which all originate from a human biased or prejudice way of thinking about how reality supposed to be and benefit humanity as a whole.
Each and every individual has the power by choice (freedom) to change his/her way of thinking! NO EXCUSES!
All the more reason why I'm hoping the extraterrestrials will eat the big-brain people first.

Circular arguments usually confuse only the arguer.
Eristotle

Indianapolis, IN

#85503 Apr 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
There is little faith in the systematic categorization of physical evidence. Haven't you ever been to the Museum of natural history?
Smithsonian or even attempted to learn "higher learning"?
People make such statements in light of the insurmountable evidence at hand , tend to be labeled in deficit of understanding.
Do you want to be labeled as such?
I do believe I made the same point when I commented that people shouldn't bet the farm on unproven (maybe unprovable) theories...maybe you missed it.

If there is "little faith in the systematic categorization" what good are labels?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85504 Apr 9, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
Only un-knowable to INFERIOR complexes who reject absolute truth!
This is merely your monumentally massive ego talking. You are not God. Hence you do not know what absolute truth is and I reject all your claims outright for being baseless opinions with zero evidence.
Infinite Force wrote:
The law of non-contradiction states you either accept ALL absolute truth or reject all absolute truth. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN AND YOUR CAN ALWAYS CHANGE YOUR MIND BY CHOICE!
I have not rejected it, you simply have no knowledge of it.
Infinite Force wrote:
A person who rejects them are nothing but pieces of Sh!ts who only want things there way because absolute truth teaches EQUALITY!
If that WERE the case you wouldn't be bragging about how much of a "superior being" you are.

But you can't help being a monumentally massive hypocrite.
Infinite Force wrote:
Your sh!tty opinions donít mean nothing to me!
Good. Yours mean nothing to me though.(shrug)
Infinite Force wrote:
I know what I AM and thatís all that matters!
Yes, you are a non-superior human being making a flawed argument. Just accept that you are a flawed human just like everyone else, you are not superior, you are not God, and thus you have no idea what absolute truth is.

If you did you would have told me how many GI Joes I have by now.
Infinite Force wrote:
ABSOLUTE TRUTH IS THE LAW OF NON-CONTRADICTON!
If you say so.
Infinite Force wrote:
I CALL GOD ABSOLUTE TRUTH BECAUSE THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!
Or the absolute truth COULD be that God doesn't exist. You have no idea.

If you're using "God" as a metaphor for your truthiness then it's pointless. If you're claiming that there's an invisible magical wizard responsible for poofing the universe into existence, you have no scientific evidence.
Infinite Force wrote:
I donít need to mention GOD name in the constitution! All I need to mention is ďthe law of non-contradictionĒ!
Absolute truth is not a religion and it ensures every one ABSOOLUTE FREEDOM!
No it doesn't. There's no such thing as absolute freedom. It's best just to stick with the relatively adequate Constitution which guarantees your current freedoms. Unless of course you hate America, in which case you can leave that country or face a VERY long and arduous battle to change the Constitution to your liking.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85505 Apr 9, 2013
Dude wrote:
No they aren't. They disagree with each other.
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter they're right.
No they aren't. They disagree with each other.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85506 Apr 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Boy are you confused!!
Switching on or off genes is mutation
Mutating would fall under growing gills something our kind doesn't have at all.
Pointed ears or brown eyes is not a mutation. Time to go back to school.
Mutation 101, the fantastic four. X-Men
I'm not confused. I see you've constructed a straw-man of reality to knock down instead of addressing the real thing.

Good luck with that.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85508 Apr 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
Funny!
A group a people band together and profess something therefore it's true.
What a riot.
That didn't work in the old days and it doesn't work today my little monkey friend.
Actually when it comes to labels, I'm afraid that IS the case. Because they're arbitrary.

If we all decide that vehicles with four wheels are "apples" and green fruit that grown on trees are "cars" then what those people say IS true because that's what they decided. It's an arbitrary label.

Just as humans being apes is an arbitrary label, agreed upon centuries before you were born. Before Darwin was even. Humans are apes, period. Because that's what scientists have labelled those particular animals.
KJV wrote:
By the way it's time to catch up:
The earth is not the center of the universe either.
Oh I know that. It was YOU boys who threatened to hang Galileo for opposing religious dogma which stated otherwise, remember?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85509 Apr 9, 2013
KJV wrote:
Color of skin is not a mutation dude it's nothing more then a mere gene or two switching on or off.
Or extra DNA where there used to be none.
KJV wrote:
Mutations 101: see Aqua man.
Fundie caricatures are irrelevant to reality.
KJV wrote:
I do have SCIENTIFIC evidence.
GREAT! You're the first fundie ever to have this. In this case you should have no problem in explaining how Goddidit with magic passes the scientific method. Take it away, KJV:

.

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KJV wrote:
Dude you left your brains in the bathroom this morning.
You see by definition matter can't
Exist outside the universe.

(skipped previous cut & paste for space and redundancy)
By definition humans are apes. But you reject definitions for theological reasons, so what the heck are you now bringing up definitions up for anyway?(shrug)

Now, it is possible that our universe MAY be part of a larger much greater multi-verse. In which case there are lots of other universes potentially with matter in them. Unless you want your definition of universe to include the multi-verse as being **inside** that greater universe, in which case matter cannot exist outside the universe because there IS no outside. Because ALL EXISTENCE is INSIDE. This would also include your god, if any such being or beings exist. So if there is no outside it makes little sense to ask if matter can exist outside in the first place.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85510 Apr 9, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
In remembering Margaret Thatcher today, she was a great world leader and a wonderful woman, in my view. May God bless her family.
She was a douche who was directly responsible for soaring unemployment rates because she didn't give a f ck about the working class. May the worms of the Earth find her more appetizing than the UK did.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#85511 Apr 9, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>
She was quite a lady! RIP ...
Psalm 14:1 KJV
King James Version
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt , they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
'God's Warrior Angel'
According to your own book there is no-one more evil than your god.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#85512 Apr 9, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
She was a douche who was directly responsible for soaring unemployment rates because she didn't give a f ck about the working class. May the worms of the Earth find her more appetizing than the UK did.
Wow man! She must have been hard on people who were willing to totally discard traditional values or something, huh?
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#85513 Apr 9, 2013
Our lord and saviour is the final judge of history and I believe he will smile upon those leaders who did not distort or corrupt their Christian nations from their original course. True leaders should never give into any persons who want to promote something regarded as abnormal or unacceptable from what was first rightly intended.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#85514 Apr 9, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Our lord and saviour is the final judge of history and I believe he will smile upon those leaders who did not distort or corrupt their Christian nations from their original course. True leaders should never give into any persons who want to promote something regarded as abnormal or unacceptable from what was first rightly intended.
so true leaders should have followed your god's lead and kept slavery?

you see...you keep forgetting that, first, your bible is a myth. and second, it is a piss-poor moral guide...
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#85515 Apr 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so true leaders should have followed your god's lead and kept slavery?
you see...you keep forgetting that, first, your bible is a myth. and second, it is a piss-poor moral guide...
The English people done away with slavery many years before our geat president Lincoln did. Many Christians see slavery as wrong.

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