Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 201230 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#85077 Apr 5, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
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You need to take a pill dude.
"There are absolutely NO contemporary accounts of your Nazarene."
http://www.bethlehemstar.net/
For centuries, believers, scoffers and the curious have wondered at the Biblical account of the Star of Bethlehem. The Bible recounts unusual or even impossible astronomical events at Christ’s birth. For many doubters, the account of the Star is easily dismissed as myth. For many believers, it’s a mystery accepted on faith. But what happens if we combine current scriptural accounts, astronomical fact and a desire for truth? The Star of Bethlehem documents the search to understand how the Lord used the stars and planets to reveal His plans for Christ’s birth. Uncover the mystery for yourself.
From Producer Stephen McEveety, The Passion Of The Christ
http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/produc...
I see that you do not understand the meaning of contemporary either.

MM is a study in ignorance.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85078 Apr 5, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
<quoted text>
My thinking is founded on an eternal concept.
So what century would you classify me in?
Oh, Thirteenth, at least.

BC.

As currently eternity is only a hypothesis at best.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#85079 Apr 5, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Delusional people are threats to themselves and others.
AM is not afraid of anything though, you or *your imaginary friends included.
you are still feeling insecure?
Am I still that threatening to you?

M&M
Mary Magdalena

United States

#85080 Apr 5, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Come on... you're not THAT stupid. There are a few other relifious posters that out-stupid you. Athough, you're doing a fine job
You can be sure. You prove the fact.

M&M
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85081 Apr 5, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
The emperor Tiberius' scribe Tacitus wrote of the rebel Christ. The writings describe the acts of Pontius Pilate and his relation to the events with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a historical figure.
Then how come there is not a single contemporary account of his existence?

To be sure, there is considerable debate over the historicity of Jesus. Some scholars think there was a man whom the stories of Jesus were based on. Others think otherwise. However the problem with fundies is that they can't tell the difference between historical scholars and apologists:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the...
Mary Magdalena

United States

#85082 Apr 5, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler never denied his Catholic faith and in face said that he always was and always would be a Catholic.

You might hate his works, that does not change the fact the he was a Christian. Many Christians have done terrible things. He is just worse than most.

Now what is disgusting is when Christians lie and try to claim that Hitler was an atheist when he persecuted atheists. Not as badly as he persecuted the Jews, but being an atheist could land you in a concentration camp too.
"What evidence do you have that he was not a Christian?"

The fact that you'll be spending some time with him.

M&M
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85083 Apr 5, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text> law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/jesus/n...
Jesus, however, is variously portrayed in these writings as a troublemaker (Tacitus),... suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our ... Christian scribes edited the writings of Josephus, probably adding ...
Congratulations. You have only demonstrated you are incapable of even reading your own sources properly.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85084 Apr 5, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Conspiracy!
Conspiracy!!
Conspiracy!!!
Conspiracy!!!!
Yup. The final refuge of the reality-denying fundie: "CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!111!1 1!1"
Mary Magdalena

United States

#85085 Apr 5, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>That is a baseless claim on your part.

Whether you like it or not you are an ape. Whether you like it or not you share an ancestor with chimpanzees. There is no reliable evidence that supports your claims. We have more than enough evidence.

Why do you think that your side keeps losing court cases. Legal cases are based upon evidence too. If you don't have any evidence you lose.
I do have evidence. I win! YA

What did I win?

Oh and in case you miss read it here it is again.

You are a self proclaimed ape (smirk)
I am not. Why? Because I am mankind
My God created us complete, no mutations required.

Just think ( if you're not gay ) you may father the next ape species to walk the planet. How exciting this must be to you.(Smirk)

M&M

“too hard to handle”

Level 4

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#85086 Apr 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you often show your own posts to be wrong? any reason the rest of us need to be here? it must never be lonely in your world huh?:)
Sure do, disagree as you will. I can be proven wrong when I am wrong and admit when I am wrong in real life.

“More Brains Than .....”

Level 6

Since: Sep 11

..a Zombie Thanksgiving

#85087 Apr 5, 2013
If you could reason with the religious, there'd be no religion.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85088 Apr 5, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
Agnostic claims = violation of the law of non-contradictory!
Scientific conclusion: all your claims against or attempting to refute my absolute truths will ALWAYS fail.
Not so far they haven't.(shrug)
Infinite Force wrote:
Agnostic view is illogical/foolish thinking in nothing more and that is an ABSOUTE TRUTH!
You see why I call you a fool? It's because of your agnostic view on GOD/ABSOLUTE TRUTH?
I call you what you claim to be by keep claiming and up-holding your agnostic view.
When you stop claiming to be an agnostic in its way of thinking you will no longer be a fool/illogical person!
All your claims are baseless. Also I have not outright stated whether or not I am an agnostic, atheist, theist or deist. However I do not base my arguments on any of these positions. I argue only from a scientific viewpoint, and as far as science is concerned about science, science is agnostic, period. It is perfectly open to the possibility of (a) God(s). It merely points out that no-one has been able to provide any objectively verifiable scientifically testable evidence yet.

Your attempt to sit on your lazy backside and "prove" (a) God using purely philosophical "logic" arguments is noted, however science requires empiricism. And this is what you do not have.

That's not our problem.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85089 Apr 5, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Blah blah blah blah blah!
Jesus existed and he is still in existence. Period.
I thank you once again for demonstrating that you are incapable of forming anything close to a rational rebuttal.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#85090 Apr 5, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
"What evidence do you have that he was not a Christian?"
The fact that you'll be spending some time with him.
M&M
So all you have to counter my argument with is the fact that you are an idiot?

Let me ask you one question:

Why would your perverted god want to torture innocent people forever?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#85091 Apr 5, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
I do have evidence. I win! YA
What did I win?
Oh and in case you miss read it here it is again.
You are a self proclaimed ape (smirk)
I am not. Why? Because I am mankind
My God created us complete, no mutations required.
Just think ( if you're not gay ) you may father the next ape species to walk the planet. How exciting this must be to you.(Smirk)
M&M
No, that is your problem. You have no evidence. Nor do you have any brains.

I did not say that if you have evidence you automatically win. And we know you don't have any. I said if you don't have any evidence you lose.

Why can't creatards follow even a simple line of logic?

I am not a self proclaimed ape. The experts that decides what is an ape or not say that I am an ape. They also say that you are an ape.

Although it is becoming fairly obvious that you are a "less evolved" ape.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85092 Apr 5, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ofcourse, before Christianity, the Romans worshipped other gods and goddesses, but have you bothered to ask your self why the sudden acceptance?
Jesus!
False. It was NOT suddenly accepted as it took around three or four centuries or so. All it was was that a Roman who happened to be Christian managed to become Emperor. Therefore he made Christianity the official religion. Then he was deposed and Rome went back to the old pantheon again. Then another coup occurred and Rome was declared Christian again by the new ruling group. Then Rome collapsed.

Jesus, even if he WAS real, had little to do with this as he had already been dead for centuries.

Your religion survived due to politics, not due to invisible Jewish magic.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85093 Apr 5, 2013
superwilly wrote:
<quoted text>
Your argument is "scientists say it", so we must all accept it as truth from the pristine, well meaning, perfect, all knowing "scientists"
There's also this other little thing that scientists do - they TEST scientific concepts. That uh, kinda makes a difference.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85094 Apr 5, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>it is THE ONLY honest answer.
what difference do our wishes or wants make in this matter?
Oh, in the case of fundies, all the difference in the world...
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85095 Apr 5, 2013
superwilly wrote:
And we must never, ever question the scientists motives, logic, or "observations". We MUST accept and obey!
NEVER ever just accept and obey!
Nope, you don't have to. You can learn all there is about current scientific ideas then become a scientist and test them yourself. And if current scientific ideas are incorrect you may falsify currently held scientific concepts.

It just so happens that the scientific concepts you reject for theological reasons have not yet been falsified by any scientists using scientific means yet.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#85096 Apr 5, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, it's interesting how the atheists squirm and wiggle when they cannot deny the Son of God.
So far you have provided no evidence to deny.
CBOW wrote:
Writings produced regarding Christ two-thousand years ago have solidified God's standing, regardless of their pathetic sheep/goat herder theories. The dead sea scrolls were written long before that. It must be the reason why God and His Son have endured, they ARE REAL and will continue on long after the childish warblings of these atheists are silenced.
UFO conspiracies have endured, but they're still BS. Not that we'd ever expect you to grasp the concept of a rational argument.(shrug)

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