Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Except there's zero evidence of design. You have no designer, no mechanisms, and no scientific predictions on why we don't see other examples of common designs that do not fit with nested hierarchies.
Centaurs? Common design.
Pegasus? Common design.
Sphinx?
Pigs with compound eyes? Common design.
Why don't we see any of these? All are possible under common design.
What is the likelihood of finding a fossil with feathers and three middle-ear bones?
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Your terms are irrelevant.
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Of course you do. You have assumed design based on zero evidence.
Correction: three possible explanations to the origin of species in accordance to the stratta/fossil and biological species.

1. creation.
2. biological species given rise to new species (evolution).
3. spontaneous generation to ALL known different biologica species found on earth today and in the strata/fossil record.

Only possible answers to the origin of species!

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Why sure there is a atheist age rock dating rule.
A rock must be billions of years old.
No, a rock must be the age that it is. A false old date is of no more use than a false young date.

Unlike creatards evolutionary scientists are interested in the truth. You guys think it is fine to lie for Jesus.

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I see so you're telling me your warped understanding of the word is more correct then the real meaning of the original text.
"Speaking of which, why do you think that water rises Langy?"
Back at you, why is evaporation down 20% over the last 50 years world wide?
World wide temperature is up yet 20% less evaporation. What's up with that?
How is my understanding of anything warped? What do you mean by "the word"?

I know the answer to your question, first you have to answer mine.

Let's see if you have even a high school level of science education.

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Perhaps, then, you could explain why Mark and John have Jesus dying on a DIFFERENT DAY?
Seems like a flaw to me, if a contradiction is a flaw.
I have not heard that one.

Did a Google search, very interesting.

Did you know that Jesus predicted the wrong amount of time that he would be dead?

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Correction: three possible explanations to the origin of species in accordance to the stratta/fossil and biological species.
1. creation.
2. biological species given rise to new species (evolution).
3. spontaneous generation to ALL known different biologica species found on earth today and in the strata/fossil record.
Only possible answers to the origin of species!
As to #1...did god keep creating species? cuz that's wha tthe fossil record shows, yet no creation myths say that is how it happened..

think youa can toss that one out right off the bat...

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This does not prevent life from changing over time. In fact that is precisely what we observe.
You are observing a fixed biological species with variation over time and that's it. The biolical species will ALWAYS remain the same. This fixed species concept follows the constant principle found in the laws of nature. You do know the laws of nature is fixed and universal don't you? Proposing an un-fixed concept violates these principles found in the laws of nature. Thought you should know this.

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<quoted text>As to #1...did god keep creating species? cuz that's wha tthe fossil record shows, yet no creation myths say that is how it happened..
think youa can toss that one out right off the bat...
First of all, who said (how ever you are defining GOD) GOD creaed life on this planet? You're way over your head when it comes to creatioon. You need to understand what a species is before you start getting into ridiculing who created us because there is more then one answer and they have nothing to do with religon.

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You are observing a fixed biological species with variation over time and that's it. The biolical species will ALWAYS remain the same. This fixed species concept follows the constant principle found in the laws of nature. You do know the laws of nature is fixed and universal don't you? Proposing an un-fixed concept violates these principles found in the laws of nature. Thought you should know this.
No, you are confusing clades with species. We have already observed evolution occur that violates your definition of species.

And no, no matter how many times you link it your definition is not the biological definition since that assumes that evolution is a fact.

I take it that you have never heard of ring species.

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<quoted text>As to #1...did god keep creating species? cuz that's wha tthe fossil record shows, yet no creation myths say that is how it happened..
think youa can toss that one out right off the bat...
A list of 26 Species “Concepts”

>>>> http://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2006...

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Anyone care to explain how a new species or mutant would reproduce and what are the chances of its survival?

"Mutant Sperm May Explain Mysterious Cases of Male Infertility"

http://www.livescience.com/15144-mutant-sperm...

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First of all, who said (how ever you are defining GOD) GOD creaed life on this planet? You're way over your head when it comes to creatioon. You need to understand what a species is before you start getting into ridiculing who created us because there is more then one answer and they have nothing to do with religon.
exactly.

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Anyone care to explain how a new species or mutant would reproduce and what are the chances of its survival?
"Mutant Sperm May Explain Mysterious Cases of Male Infertility"
http://www.livescience.com/15144-mutant-sperm...
Can you be a bit more specific in your question?

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Can you be a bit more specific in your question?
Well according to your previous posts on this thread, there are evidence for evolution that have been tested repeatedly, so what happens when a mutant species reproduce?

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Well according to your previous posts on this thread, there are evidence for evolution that have been tested repeatedly, so what happens when a mutant species reproduce?
That is just an incredibly stupid question.

Species evolve. All species are "mutant".

So do you care to ask a real question or are you just trolling?

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That is just an incredibly stupid question.
Species evolve. All species are "mutant".
So do you care to ask a real question or are you just trolling?
I see you have no intelligent response. If we are all mutants, then define 'species'

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I see you have no intelligent response. If we are all mutants, then define 'species'
A species is a group of animals that can interbreed with each other. There are probably better definitions but that will do for now.

It is hard to have an intelligent response to an idiotic question.

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I see you have no intelligent response. If we are all mutants, then define 'species'
Get ready for a tug a war game over the term species.

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A species is a group of animals that can interbreed with each other. There are probably better definitions but that will do for now.
It is hard to have an intelligent response to an idiotic question.
idiotic to someone who doesn't have evidence? give me a break

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Get ready for a tug a war game over the term species.
I know. They can't provide an actual definition for it because they know the terminology itself violates their theory.

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Get ready for a tug a war game over the term species.
No, there is no problem with the definition. You try to put an artificial limit on evolution.

Once again, I take it you have never heard of ring species.

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