Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#83389 Mar 28, 2013
Mark wrote:
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Hey, I got A's and my 2 geo profs converted to catastrophism, one wanted to offered me time as a guest speaker. Don't you wish!
On another subject, do you know where Hungry Jack lake is?? Had a great walleye trip there, boy do I remember that feed! Never had a better fresh water fish meal.
You can barely make more than one post a day without a bunch of typos and displaying linguistic ignorance, I an not convinced that your assertion here is at all close to reality.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#83390 Mar 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Reading the piece I couldn't help but think; that still works to the advantage of us atheists.
It HAS been thought for quite awhile now that we Homo-sapiens and Homo-neanderthalensis came from the same ancestor. It is thought, but not proven yet, that Homo-heidelbergensis was that common ancestor. Go to Wikipedia and look for drawings of that ancestor.
Go to MIT site for more info:
Sankararaman and co say that by this measure, humans and Neanderthals must have shared their genes between 47,000 and 65,000 years ago, well after the exodus from Africa.
So, again we are tied into prior Homo species and we ARE in the line of great apes.
That’s good evidence for the first theory that humans and Neanderthals enjoyed one almighty love-in about 50,000 years ago in Europe, although the real story is probably one of rape and pillage rather than of peace and love.
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/428880/g...
Don't you just love science??
The only point I was making was the uncertainty of accepted science mis-conceptions.
If such wide spread false beliefs in science are held without question, then all you have is scientific supported propagated dogma,not truth.
Although many are happy excepting such dogma as "real" because it make for good "political" science, there are some who do actually seek out the true facts, and are not afraid to go against the grain to get them.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#83391 Mar 28, 2013
Aphelion wrote:
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Keep making it up as you go Klutter
However, the existing state of human language nevertheless suggests that the variety of dialects and sub-languages has developed from a relatively few (perhaps even less than twenty) languages. These original ‘proto-languages’—from which all others allegedly have developed—were distinct within themselves, with no previous ancestral language.
http://www.trueorigin.org/language01.asp
Try facts once in a while rather than you abysmal opinions, conjecture and your belief that you are actually educated.
Do you have something other than your own blogs? Like, actual facts?

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#83392 Mar 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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The only point I was making was the uncertainty of accepted science mis-conceptions.
If such wide spread false beliefs in science are held without question, then all you have is scientific supported propagated dogma,not truth.
Although many are happy excepting such dogma as "real" because it make for good "political" science, there are some who do actually seek out the true facts, and are not afraid to go against the grain to get them.
Well, since you haven't actually learned any of it, your entire assertion here is discarded like your mythology.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#83393 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Do you have something other than your own blogs? Like, actual facts?
So where did the first language come from? There are no clear clues. We do know that language is quite old. The earliest record of language is 6000 years old (about 3500 B.C. Sumerian, an area now known as southern Iraq.)

http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/hurley/Ling1...

do you have something other than your opinions? I thought not
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#83394 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Do you have something other than your own blogs? Like, actual facts?
BTW since you probably failed geography like most other subjects that you attempt to enter into, Iraq is not quite Africa.
Mark

United States

#83395 Mar 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
Oh, and the North and South American tribes of 4350 years ago (or any years ago) never saw a flood either.
I read the recorded testimony of the leading Alaskan Athabaskan chief at the time, as taken by the district Judge Wickersham in about 1900 of their flood story, the "big canoe story" etc.. Its all in Wickershams autobiography

Same for the Shoshone, I can check with some other tribes here and Canada, but that whittles down North America some on your comment.

How come there are Redwood stumps 10ft in dia. in Antarctica and when we drill on the North slope (for oil) we hit a biomass layer down deep with huge warm climate ferns and other fauna/flora? What covered them 500ft+ down, a local flood? We have fossil mega fauna there also, shells 3ft in dia etc.? For sure we must agree that the world at some earlier date had a uniform pole to pole temp that was warm. They omitted that stuff in my college geo/ classes, doesn't fit well. Quite an ommission however!

I will take a shot and postulate from the Bible a moment - how about a "very good" earth? Does that evidence make me a crackpot, I think not, actually, It woke me up.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#83396 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, I just pointed out that sometimes mythology can be a hazy mirror to ancient history. If getting some small things correct made the myths true, then Spiderman would be real as well.
What do you mean "primal in Africa" and "primal in China?" Humans started in Africa, all humans did, the first language was likely some primitive vocalizations and gestures with very few "words" and almost no structure at all, but it was still a language. Other apes also have languages, very primitive that never mature without being introduced to human languages, but they do have languages. Even cats have languages, birds, reptiles, they all have very primitive languages.
Sheesh, it's like trying to teach a first year student the entire works of Shakespear before they can even read.
Out of Africa? Data Fail to Support Language Origin in Africa

Feb. 15, 2012 — In the beginning was the word -- yes, but where exactly? Last year, Quentin Atkinson, a cultural anthropologist at Auckland University in New Zealand, proposed that the cradle of language could be localized in the southwest of Africa. The report, which appeared in Science, was seized upon by the media and caused something of a sensation. Now however, LMU linguist Michael Cysouw has published a commentary in Science which argues that this neat "Out-of-Africa" hypothesis for the origin of language is not adequately supported by the data presented. The search for the site of origin of language remains very much alive.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/...

Get an education Klutter and stop claiming one. You will possibly look less foolish even if you're not.

“Universal Conscious Conscience”

Level 3

Since: Feb 08

Planet Earth

#83397 Mar 28, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for your post,but no thanks think I've read enough on here to understand zealots are everywhere..
I'm not a zealot, I think outside of the box when it comes to the origin of species. I am not religious either. Just because I accept a creator(s) when it comes to the origin of species does not mean I am a religous zealot. I have yet determined the origin of species true origin on planet earth, but I have narrowed it down to two possible answers based on the biological species term. So my findings are based in the realms of science because my method of seeking for the truth is based on the evidence I observe in nature.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#83398 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Well, since you haven't actually learned any of it, your entire assertion here is discarded like your mythology.
What? The assertion that some scientific beliefs are, and could be wrong?

Of course you disregard any ideas that question your science cult mentality.

I wouldn't expect anything less.lol



“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83399 Mar 28, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Are you again, 100 % error free?


How error free I may or may not be has no bearing at all on the errors in the bible. You've admitted that the bible is in error when it claimed the flood was global. Can't back out of it now, Chuckles.

“Universal Conscious Conscience”

Level 3

Since: Feb 08

Planet Earth

#83400 Mar 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So you are saying there is some magical barrier that prevents these very small changes from accumulating ... that's magic, not science.
The biological species cncept is not magic, it's a scientific term that lays the foundatin to a fixed biological reproductive species when it comes to their origins. It's based on pure observation from which I can draw a conclusion on the origin of species. No magic, no faith no religion.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83401 Mar 28, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
I'm not religous and I don't support documented religious views. I do accept the non-religious concept of fixed species when it comes to the origin of species. Instead of descent with modification I see common desegn. I base this conclusion on the biological reproductive species term which states a species reproduce the same fertile off-spring species.
Well, speak of the devil! We were just talking about you. How's it going, Curtis?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83402 Mar 28, 2013
Infinite Force wrote:
This is called a constant variable...
WTF?

Still the same old Curtis, I see.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83403 Mar 28, 2013
Mark wrote:
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A very sharp team was on that committee. Look into it.
I have. Several times. And I know why it was bullshit. Do you?
Mark wrote:
Evo's will never publish multiple dating systems in their lit., it gets too complicated for them to also explain the lack of concordant dating results, in addition to their theme. We are supposed to blindly accept the data which is often +/- mils/Y because we are suppose to trust peer review. The fox watching the hen-house issue. I am not saying they purposely lie, its dogma.
Believe what you like. You know, like RATE.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#83404 Mar 28, 2013
The Bible mentions the language of Canaan and the whole world may have spoken the Canaanite and Phoenician language until Nimrod/Marduk made gods for peope to worship beginning in Babylon and spreading abroad, which caused God to confound their language and seperate them, so they could not understand each other.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#83405 Mar 28, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The Bible mentions the language of Canaan and the whole world may have spoken the Canaanite and Phoenician language until Nimrod/Marduk made gods for peope to worship beginning in Babylon and spreading abroad, which caused God to confound their language and seperate them, so they could not understand each other.
The tower of Babel is hardly a realistic explanation for the origin of language.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83406 Mar 28, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The Bible mentions the language of Canaan and the whole world may have spoken the Canaanite and Phoenician language until Nimrod/Marduk made gods for peope to worship beginning in Babylon and spreading abroad, which caused God to confound their language and seperate them, so they could not understand each other.
Never happened.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#83407 Mar 28, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Irony meter go booooooooommm.
How many is that now?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83408 Mar 28, 2013
Here ya go, Mark:
http://www.oldearth.org/rate_index.htm

Even creationists know RATE was crap.

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