Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Because maybe he's beginning to see the error of the Bible and peeking into the 'real world'.
How ya doing? Haven't seen you for awhile. I hope all is well.
lol. The real world is more like a game. I'm doing good and I'm playin. ;-)

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If truly the bible is false, as well the faith according to your assertions, the faith would have been long dead. But the reverse was the case.
http://www.news.com.au/lifesty le/quantum-scientists-offer-pr oof-soul-exists/story-fneszs56 -1226507452687

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I'm not religous and I don't support documented religious views. I do accept the non-religious concept of fixed species when it comes to the origin of species. Instead of descent with modification I see common desegn. I base this conclusion on the biological reproductive species term which states a species reproduce the same fertile off-spring species.

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I'm not religous and I don't support documented religious views. I do accept the non-religious concept of fixed species when it comes to the origin of species. Instead of descent with modification I see common desegn. I base this conclusion on the biological reproductive species term which states a species reproduce the same fertile off-spring species.
When you say that you are not religious then claim a designer it seems to me that you are contradicting yourself.

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I'm not religous and I don't support documented religious views. I do accept the non-religious concept of fixed species when it comes to the origin of species. Instead of descent with modification I see common desegn. I base this conclusion on the biological reproductive species term which states a species reproduce the same fertile off-spring species.
How do you feel about the fact that our ancestors mated with neanderthals and the connection that that makes with the prior Homo species. And that we non-Africans carry a small percentage of Neanderthal genes/blood

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lol. The real world is more like a game. I'm doing good and I'm playin. ;-)
Glad to know you're doing well Cybele.

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Let's see, you post an article about science from the lifestyle section ... strike one.

Roger is really just a fancy mathematician, actually, who's assertion of the "soul" or that "physics is not adequate for explaining consciousness" (duh)... is not supported by a peer reviewed paper at all, he just wrote a book about it to sell to gullible people.

Stuart is a physician ... specializing in anesthesiology ... and he has no peer reviewed paper with that assertion either.

That's three strikes, just for fun ... let's continue.

The article calls it a theory ... when it's just a hypothesis and an assertion that ignores a lot of research done in neurology. There's a reason we don't allow mathematicians do brain surgery and why anesthesiologists, part time psychologists, don't understand the advances of artificial intelligence. Luckily, intelligent people actually judge the artificial intelligence challenges and projects, if these two were involved Siri wouldn't have even been written.

Learn how to do research, I didn't even get that far into the article and already destroyed the stupid in it.

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When you say that you are not religious then claim a designer it seems to me that you are contradicting yourself.
The fixed species concept is not a religous one when it comes to the origin of species. Second, just because the fixed species concept demands a creator(s) does not mean it's automatically religious. The fixed species concept is based on evidence (biological species term) not un-testable faith.

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How do you feel about the fact that our ancestors mated with neanderthals and the connection that that makes with the prior Homo species. And that we non-Africans carry a small percentage of Neanderthal genes/blood
Your facts is based on contradictory un-observed data when when it comes to the biological reproductive species term. This is the only species term I accept in biology. A biological reproductive species is only able to reproduce fertile off-spring of the same species and this reproductive process is fixed which prevents the rise of a new biological species.

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The fixed species concept is not a religous one when it comes to the origin of species. Second, just because the fixed species concept demands a creator(s) does not mean it's automatically religious. The fixed species concept is based on evidence (biological species term) not un-testable faith.
Um, no, it's still called creationism, and it is based on denying a lot of evidence ... like the entire fossil record.

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Your facts is based on contradictory un-observed data when when it comes to the biological reproductive species term. This is the only species term I accept in biology. A biological reproductive species is only able to reproduce fertile off-spring of the same species and this reproductive process is fixed which prevents the rise of a new biological species.
But the offspring is always different than the parents.

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Um, no, it's still called creationism, and it is based on denying a lot of evidence ... like the entire fossil record.
The fossil record cannot be tested with the biological species term. Any other species term is based on pure assumption by saying similarity of different species in the fossil record means descent with modification The fixed species concept observes common design for similarity found in the fossil record. I only accept the biological species term and this term shows by observation biological species are fixed.

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How do you feel about the fact that our ancestors mated with neanderthals and the connection that that makes with the prior Homo species. And that we non-Africans carry a small percentage of Neanderthal genes/blood
Research Raises Doubts About Whether Modern Humans and Neanderthals Interbred

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/...

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Let's see, you post an article about science from the lifestyle section ... strike one.
Roger is really just a fancy mathematician, actually, who's assertion of the "soul" or that "physics is not adequate for explaining consciousness" (duh)... is not supported by a peer reviewed paper at all, he just wrote a book about it to sell to gullible people.
Stuart is a physician ... specializing in anesthesiology ... and he has no peer reviewed paper with that assertion either.
That's three strikes, just for fun ... let's continue.
The article calls it a theory ... when it's just a hypothesis and an assertion that ignores a lot of research done in neurology. There's a reason we don't allow mathematicians do brain surgery and why anesthesiologists, part time psychologists, don't understand the advances of artificial intelligence. Luckily, intelligent people actually judge the artificial intelligence challenges and projects, if these two were involved Siri wouldn't have even been written.
Learn how to do research, I didn't even get that far into the article and already destroyed the stupid in it.
your too funny..."a fancy mathematician" LMAO

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The fixed species concept is not a religous one when it comes to the origin of species. Second, just because the fixed species concept demands a creator(s) does not mean it's automatically religious. The fixed species concept is based on evidence (biological species term) not un-testable faith.
Really?

What is the evidence for fixed species?

Are you saying that offspring will have exactly the same DNA as its parents?

That has been found not to be the case.

It looks like your fixed species idea falls immediately on its face.

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The fossil record cannot be tested with the biological species term. Any other species term is based on pure assumption by saying similarity of different species in the fossil record means descent with modification The fixed species concept observes common design for similarity found in the fossil record. I only accept the biological species term and this term shows by observation biological species are fixed.
What?

Now you are just spouting nonsense.

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But the offspring is always different than the parents.
That is true but they are still the same biological reproductive species and they still remain the same biological species. The laws of nature are fixed and never changes and it is this law that governs biological reproductive species which are fixed.

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Research Raises Doubts About Whether Modern Humans and Neanderthals Interbred
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/...
"The findings of a study by researchers at the University of Cambridge..."

Of course these where just "fancy researchers" at a "fancy University"...case dismissed...lol

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That is true but they are still the same biological reproductive species and they still remain the same biological species. The laws of nature are fixed and never changes and it is this law that governs biological reproductive species which are fixed.
You have not mentioned what these laws of nature are or how species are fixed.

You may be confusing species with clade.

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Um, no, it's still called creationism, and it is based on denying a lot of evidence ... like the entire fossil record.
So you found some old bones...the rest is mere speculation and conjecture...case dismissed.

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