Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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thewordofme wrote:
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You write:
"Do you belief we stem from the apes.if so why are there still apes/monkeys?,
I came from Scots and Irish....why are there still Scots and Irish?
You picked the absolute stupidest creationist reply ever thought up.
Sorry for your beliefs, but its proven we did evolve from the great ape line....the bones and the DNA agree. Read some science my friend.
Really?i was asking a simple question about evolution there was no need to get all superior and insulting,just like the other poster about Darwin,I happen to have read that he turned to Christianity towards the end of his life,apparently I got it wrong,so instead of saying so I got called a fundi and so on by someone who thinks he's a smart arse,I never once said I was a Christian practicing or not,I was simply asking questions..
But as I can see the level and type of people on here I'll bid you and the others good day..

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Really?i was asking a simple question about evolution there was no need to get all superior and insulting,just like the other poster about Darwin,I happen to have read that he turned to Christianity towards the end of his life,apparently I got it wrong,so instead of saying so I got called a fundi and so on by someone who thinks he's a smart arse,I never once said I was a Christian practicing or not,I was simply asking questions..
But as I can see the level and type of people on here I'll bid you and the others good day..
so why did you post such an ignorant satatement in support of your position?

questions are far better when in doubt.

as to apes, both humans and apes came from a common ancestor, apes did not turn into humans...this is 6th grade level stuff.
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Look up the Sharpshooter Fallacy. You are committing it at the moment.
You can attempt to answer every point to argue for your self-designed earth, moon, sun, geology, atmosphere, water and life if you wish. But each require convergence, convergence demands design, design demands a Designer. But you claim it all comes by mindless accidents? thatís functional, beautiful, original, and operational? Never in human experience does such convergence come by accident. The seas of earth would be a stagnate pond of sticky algae if it wasnít for the moon being the perfect size and in the orbit itís in. The tilt of the earth gives us seasons, the sun warmth and on and on.. Convergent Design! But with all the efforts of human "science", we can't even make a single human hair, we can't explain or replicate photosynthesis, nor make a single blade of grass in all the laboratories of the world! Yet we mock God while we enjoy all that allows us life, how sad, how foolish we are!
The evolutionist side lives on isotope dating because some samples provide the ages they agree with. There are many, many contradictions however. Ones that starkly donít fit the geologic column or the current dogma often get thrown out. Sometimes honest authors get them published hidden in the tables to escape the all -seeing eyes of the pro-evolutionist peer review teams. In truth, most uniform time measurements contradict long-age techniques, but guess who wins! You will almost never see concordant isotope clocks agree with themselves nor uniform dates (based on fossils/strata) nor will you see them all published together. On our side, we have to often use a third party carrier to get samples through to a lab, why?, because they donít want us to get the ammunition! We worked on this subject for 5 years and faced the facts straight out but the results were ignored.(Rate Project).

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KittenKoder wrote:
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So then which country did Latin come from? Lata?
Dunno.

But Norwegian comes from Norwegia.

And Canadians are from Canadia.
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Sure, if you wanna misrepresent reality:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_crea...
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Keep beating up that random chance straw-man Marky.
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It's called mutation. Your incredulity still isn't a valid objection.
They couldn't get it done in the lab so they just keep selling it in the articles, movies and textbooks. So we are all mutants? I will tell my wife that - couch time tonight!

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Mark wrote:
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You can attempt to answer every point to argue for your self-designed earth, moon, sun, geology, atmosphere, water and life if you wish. But each require convergence, convergence demands design, design demands a Designer. But you claim it all comes by mindless accidents? thatís functional, beautiful, original, and operational? Never in human experience does such convergence come by accident. The seas of earth would be a stagnate pond of sticky algae if it wasnít for the moon being the perfect size and in the orbit itís in. The tilt of the earth gives us seasons, the sun warmth and on and on.. Convergent Design! But with all the efforts of human "science", we can't even make a single human hair, we can't explain or replicate photosynthesis, nor make a single blade of grass in all the laboratories of the world! Yet we mock God while we enjoy all that allows us life, how sad, how foolish we are!
The evolutionist side lives on isotope dating because some samples provide the ages they agree with. There are many, many contradictions however. Ones that starkly donít fit the geologic column or the current dogma often get thrown out. Sometimes honest authors get them published hidden in the tables to escape the all -seeing eyes of the pro-evolutionist peer review teams. In truth, most uniform time measurements contradict long-age techniques, but guess who wins! You will almost never see concordant isotope clocks agree with themselves nor uniform dates (based on fossils/strata) nor will you see them all published together. On our side, we have to often use a third party carrier to get samples through to a lab, why?, because they donít want us to get the ammunition! We worked on this subject for 5 years and faced the facts straight out but the results were ignored.(Rate Project).
No, none of that demands a designer.

if you had really gone to university, you would know that kind of reasoning and research would get you and automatic "F".

try something above third grade level thinking...

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Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>See Rom 11:10. also take heed Eph 4:18"Having the understanding darkened being alienated from the life of God thorugh the ignorance is in them because of the blindness of their heart" That describes perfectly one who scoffs at God's word.
*sigh*

You know this perfectly well, but you keep avoiding it: folklore is not evidence.
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so why did you post such an ignorant satatement in support of your position?
questions are far better when in doubt.
as to apes, both humans and apes came from a common ancestor, apes did not turn into humans...this is 6th grade level stuff.
Ignorant?,yep that sums it up,I asked a simply set of questions then was going to ask another set to the practicing Christians,if you look at one of my posts on Adam and Eve I commented on..
Lol.6th grade,what ever that is,strange that theories and so on about anything can change in a blink of an eye.,a bit like global warming now it's climate change one way or other a zealot will always be a zealot..
I won't insult you,just bid you good day and won't bother you on here again..

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No. The ancients thought that, the flood was global, due to its occurrence.
But they were wrong.

Therefore, so is the Bible they wrote.

You see the difficulty?

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Ignorant?,yep that sums it up,I asked a simply set of questions then was going to ask another set to the practicing Christians,if you look at one of my posts on Adam and Eve I commented on..
Lol.6th grade,what ever that is,strange that theories and so on about anything can change in a blink of an eye.,a bit like global warming now it's climate change one way or other a zealot will always be a zealot..
I won't insult you,just bid you good day and won't bother you on here again..
No, you made an incorrect statement about Darwin. you did not ask a question. why do have to lie about your own posts?

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No. The ancients thought that, the flood was global, due to its occurrence.
But, the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, east Indians, mongolians, Egyptians, and Indus valley people never saw it...no flood for them

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Oh, and the North and South American tribes of 4350 years ago (or any years ago) never saw a flood either.
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<quoted text>No, you made an incorrect statement about Darwin. you did not ask a question. why do have to lie about your own posts?
I actually said in another post what I had read about Darwin but apparently I got it wrong so where's the lie in that or are you just after an argument,either way I will call it a day and leave this thread to the so called intellects..

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The Dude wrote:
Oh, and there's Curtis! I wonder when the spaceship's gonna drop him back off for another visit?
Curtis Threats! I'd almost forgotten about him. Wow, was he a character. Infinite Force, wasn't it?

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>Darwin turn to Christianity towards the end of his life..
He did not. That's the Lady Hope crap. Never happened.
Krypteia wrote:
Do you belief we stem from the apes.if so why are there still apes/monkeys?,taking evolution as what it is..
Like I said before I keep my options open..
Congratulations, you just asked the classic stupid question. 100 fundie points for you!

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Mark wrote:
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You can attempt to answer every point to argue for your self-designed earth, moon, sun, geology, atmosphere, water and life if you wish. But each require convergence, convergence demands design, design demands a Designer. But you claim it all comes by mindless accidents? thatís functional, beautiful, original, and operational? Never in human experience does such convergence come by accident. The seas of earth would be a stagnate pond of sticky algae if it wasnít for the moon being the perfect size and in the orbit itís in. The tilt of the earth gives us seasons, the sun warmth and on and on.. Convergent Design! But with all the efforts of human "science", we can't even make a single human hair, we can't explain or replicate photosynthesis, nor make a single blade of grass in all the laboratories of the world! Yet we mock God while we enjoy all that allows us life, how sad, how foolish we are!
The evolutionist side lives on isotope dating because some samples provide the ages they agree with. There are many, many contradictions however. Ones that starkly donít fit the geologic column or the current dogma often get thrown out. Sometimes honest authors get them published hidden in the tables to escape the all -seeing eyes of the pro-evolutionist peer review teams. In truth, most uniform time measurements contradict long-age techniques, but guess who wins! You will almost never see concordant isotope clocks agree with themselves nor uniform dates (based on fossils/strata) nor will you see them all published together. On our side, we have to often use a third party carrier to get samples through to a lab, why?, because they donít want us to get the ammunition! We worked on this subject for 5 years and faced the facts straight out but the results were ignored.(Rate Project).
Ah! The RATE bullshit. I knew that was going to come up sooner or later. It's deja vu all over again.

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>I actually said in another post what I had read about Darwin but apparently I got it wrong so where's the lie in that or are you just after an argument,either way I will call it a day and leave this thread to the so called intellects..
Well, it is true we can be a little harsh at times. But when you walk in the door spouting fundie dogma, expect to be called on it. If you really want to learn, dry your tears and stick around.

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Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>I actually said in another post what I had read about Darwin but apparently I got it wrong so where's the lie in that or are you just after an argument,either way I will call it a day and leave this thread to the so called intellects..
Krypteria, as MikeF suggested above,**IF** you are truely interested in being educated (hopefully in scientific fact), stick around.

It can be educational and informative.

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Krypteria, as MikeF suggested above,**IF** you are truely interested in being educated (hopefully in scientific fact), stick around.
It can be educational and informative.
As well as down right hilarious at times.

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As well as down right hilarious at times.
I do my best....

Oh. Wait. You mean the FUNDIES.

Yeah.

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