Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83227 Mar 27, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>The UK has nukes too and a growing Muslim community that has members interested in influencing the local government.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthomp...
Indeed, Islamic fundies have in some cases taken advantage of political correctness gone stupid. Something to be kept in check.
nanoanomaly wrote:
Sarah could not possibly have done a worse job as president than the POS we have jerking off in the Oval Office right now.
Compared to the last guy he's a saint.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83228 Mar 27, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Ancient Rome wasn't under the influence of God, what's their excuse for slavery and murder? You're so narrow minded and angry, why?
If ancient Rome wasn't under the influence of God you wouldn't BE Christian right now.
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#83229 Mar 27, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd love to know where that's happening. I certainly do NOT made as much as my private sector counter-parts nor will my retirement be cushy. Far from it.
What do you do for a living? You are in your 60's right?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83230 Mar 27, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, it is what you said. Most people, whether believers or not, do try to plant their own ideology into their kids minds, so what? You do it too, that's their right just as it is yours to try and influence your own family. Some people just try for a set morals and submitting to local laws, then allow the kid to follow (or not) their ideology of choice.
Your comments show that you would, if you could, prevent people from exercising their right to think differently than you. Talk about a futile agenda.
That's the thing about upbringing. While some may make the argument that indoctrination into stupid such as YECism equates to child abuse I think that's going too far. Okay, so their kids might think the Flinstones is a science documentary but otherwise you'll probably find in general (aside from Jesus Camp) your average fundie kids are otherwise psychologically healthy, happy and never suffered any kind of genuine abuse.

The problem with fundies though is that they don't wanna confine their upbringing to their own kids. They wanna shove it on everyone else's. Hence their constant political pushes into public schools.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83231 Mar 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>You chaps would love Mike Huckabee, a godly, moral and upright man,.and not a heathen like many want to follow.
You mean the fuckwit who tried covering for Todd Akin? Right.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83232 Mar 27, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of "knowing" becomes condoning? I know of the genocide in Uganda, does that mean I condone it? I know of abortion around the world and the forced abortions in China, yet I don't condone them. You forget the "free will" part of God's "arrangement" with mankind. All choices bear consequences, woody.
The "free will arrangement" is that you have none.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83233 Mar 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
CBOW, the ones who want to deny God's word are living in darkness and thus deny his word. "In him was life and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehended it not" John 1:4-5. Those people are like bats and owls, they hate and hide from the light. Those living in darkness hate, deny and hide form the light.
As we've never had God's Word there is nothing to deny.(shrug)

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#83234 Mar 27, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you do for a living? You are in your 60's right?
I am. 64. Currently a supervisor in the networking department of a large public school district. Prior gig as a high school teacher. Also taught at every educational level.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83235 Mar 27, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
We could use a strong woman leader like Margaret Thatcher was.
Little advice - Don't visit the UK and say that too loud.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83236 Mar 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Whoa, hold your horses pardner!!
There is one point in your post I must disagree with. Those nuts are not all Americans. In fact some countries have so many of these nuts that they have started to export them to us. Australia and New Zealand instantly come to mind ;^)
Yeah, but it's okay. The fundies had a big argument and the Ozzies said you could KEEP Kenny Ham.

YAY!!!

:-D
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83237 Mar 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>God does not condone slavery, people owned them anyway, he does not condone being gay, stealing,etc but folks do it anyway. Those folks are called law breakers.
Hey Petey, I linked to scripture of God condoning slavery. So are you lying now or were you lying when you said you read the Bible?

How come you fundies ALWAYS have to lie?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83238 Mar 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>He did not and does not condone adultery and idolatry, he gave rules concerning that. Paul addressed the church at Corinth of the sins they engaged in and also commended the ones who did do those things and turned from them when they became christians.
Yes, He gave rules against idolatry. And lying.

Then you fundies decided to completely ignore it by worshipping a book about God instead of God and continued to lie your azzes off.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83239 Mar 27, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ofcourse, we are in democracy.
You have no evidence against the existence of God.
More of your assertions.
You have no evidence against the existence of Cosmic Sheep of Dimension Zog.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#83240 Mar 27, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
And CBOW forgets that God was clearly pro-slavery in the Old Testament and not anti-slavery in the New Testament. At best you could say that God in the New Testament was slavery neutral, and that would be stretching it a bit. Jesus told slaves to serve their masters. I believe it was Paul that sent a slave back to his master.
There is a passage in the New Testament where Jesus speaks to a slave and tells him to work hard for his master and something else...not to run away...honor his master....I forget. long story short, the NT also sucks up to slavers.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83241 Mar 27, 2013
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>But doe's it matter if someone wants to believe in god or not,doe's it interfere in your life if someone goe's to church..
On your post who's to say that a god didn't make all these things in the first place and his/ hers plan was for this to happen in the long run..
Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. The fundies claim it did but can't back it up. Then they illegally force it into public schools.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83242 Mar 27, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Your so called evidence against the bible will never invalidate the bible.
Zigzactly. You can't invalidate invisible Jewish magic. For the same reason you can't invalidate Cosmic Sheep.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#83243 Mar 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>They may strive and be successful in this life, but will be poor in the one to come if they do not repent, obey his son's gospel and serve God.
That's nice. i have no need to obey a fairy tale.
Elohim

Branford, CT

#83244 Mar 27, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Elohim, The book of Morman is a sham. Joseph Smith was no more a prophet than Bozo the Clown. Luke 16:16 plainly states the law and the prophets were until John and since him the kindom of God is preached. John died in the first century,which would be about 1700 years before Joseph Smith was even thought of.Readm Matt chap 14 and it tells of JOhn's death.
They are all fairy tales.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83245 Mar 27, 2013
Mark wrote:
I never stated that 6000 YO figure, thatís yours. For those who believe in Biblical truth, if you extrapolate the births and ages given in Genesis that figure comes up. If you don't believe what the Bible teaches, why believe in that specific age unless you believe that the Bible is true? It begs the question! As far as your reaction to Christ's warning about what little children should be taught, now you know, those are His words, not mine.
Other short age chronometers based on uniform conditions are supported in science, more so than long age dating methods I feel, such as those using isotopes of lead. A question on those; if leads origin is radioactive then deteriorates to pure lead, why isn't the earth completely radioactive?- most of Missouri and nearby states should be hot, as well as other huge portions of the earth, and no life could exist. You can't have it both ways, you hang on long age 1/2 life based on measured rates, but refuse to reverse the same number to look into the past of this old earth you embrace!
Sure, if you wanna misrepresent reality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_crea...
Mark wrote:
Another accident needed to allow life to be self-created? or all the elements of lead that just happen to be in safe proportions when the earth was formed, more questions for your side and fewer accident-related answers.
Keep beating up that random chance straw-man Marky.
Mark wrote:
I am not a trickster, and where is your science in cell operation to get new life forms? Where did the cell and brain come from, another sensitive spot? But Oh, we must get this all in order in the mindless self-directed world of evolution!
It's called mutation. Your incredulity still isn't a valid objection.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#83246 Mar 27, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Non human to human evolution is a farce.
Actually it's been long established. So far you have not been able to address the evidence.
Charles Idemi wrote:
The possibility of a first man and woman can never be ruled out.
Just as long as invisible Jewmagic is ruled IN.

Without it, we CAN in fact rule it out no problem.(shrug)

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