Evolution vs. Creation

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Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#82316 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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Religion is manmade, but spirituality is God's.
Gods are man-made. all the thousands of them. this is why they all have human traits such as jealousy and pettyness and vindictiveness...

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#82317 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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True Christians hate No one. That isn't what Jesus taught. To blame God or Jesus for human shortcomings is nonsense. It goes back to what I said, humans are fallible and not very trust-worthy.
You could not ask for a more obvious case of the "No True Scotsman Fallacy". This is merely your reason for excusing some of the evils that Christians do. Whether it is Hitler, that crazy guy who brings antigay protests to military funerals, David Koresh,or countless other loonies, they were all Christians and no amount of denial will take that fact away.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#82318 Mar 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Just because you are an idiot where evolution is concerned does not mean that you are an idiot in everything.
I am not saying that you do or don't have 4 US patents. They are not all that difficult to get and it is also very easy to lie about them. My point is that there are even a few bright scientists who can do actual science that disagree with evolution. They have one thing in common. When they disagree with evolution they abandon the scientific method and work more off of emotions. They will not write a peer reviewable paper that supports their claim. Instead they avoid that process because all of their errors would be made apparent in the peer review process and they find their errors comforting, as they find their religion comforting.
Evolution threatens many Christians religion. They would rather believe anything but the truth.
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I hold 4 Us patents on an engineered product using metallurgy and machine dynamics. To say that science isn't in my background is foolish. To say that evolution and God can't co-exist is also very foolish.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Kalispell Montana

#82319 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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I am sorry no one prays for you, but, I will start. Ever hear of trials and tribulations?
Prayer is a demonstrable false triviality
CBOW

Dover, PA

#82320 Mar 22, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Gods are man-made. all the thousands of them. this is why they all have human traits such as jealousy and pettyness and vindictiveness...
You have that backwards woody, it's why WE have jealousy and pettiness. We were made in God's likeness. We came after Him. Does your kid possess your traits, or do you possess his. LOL!
CBOW

Dover, PA

#82321 Mar 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You could not ask for a more obvious case of the "No True Scotsman Fallacy". This is merely your reason for excusing some of the evils that Christians do. Whether it is Hitler, that crazy guy who brings antigay protests to military funerals, David Koresh,or countless other loonies, they were all Christians and no amount of denial will take that fact away.
Great, blaming God for the disobedience of His children. Well, we should bring back punishment for the parents of these horrendous children these days, since we can't hold them responsible for their own actions. Get ready to serve time and pay your kids' debts. LOL!
CBOW

Dover, PA

#82322 Mar 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Prayer is a demonstrable false triviality
Only to you, I will still pray for you.
CBOW

Dover, PA

#82323 Mar 22, 2013
So long for the weekend, I will drink a beer in your honor! God bless......

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#82324 Mar 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Just because you are an idiot where evolution is concerned does not mean that you are an idiot in everything.
I am not saying that you do or don't have 4 US patents. They are not all that difficult to get and it is also very easy to lie about them. My point is that there are even a few bright scientists who can do actual science that disagree with evolution. They have one thing in common. When they disagree with evolution they abandon the scientific method and work more off of emotions. They will not write a peer reviewable paper that supports their claim. Instead they avoid that process because all of their errors would be made apparent in the peer review process and they find their errors comforting, as they find their religion comforting.
Evolution threatens many Christians religion. They would rather believe anything but the truth.
i find it hard to believe that someone who developed robotics patenets would refer to ur space exploration vehicles as space junk...

the bullshit meter spikes high with this one...

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Kalispell Montana

#82325 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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Only if you refuse to accept that it's incomplete. What other parts, do tell.
The reality of Adam and Eve is demonstrable false.

Of course the flood

Tower of Babel

Exodus

Joshua's exploits

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#82326 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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You have that backwards woody, it's why WE have jealousy and pettiness. We were made in God's likeness. We came after Him. Does your kid possess your traits, or do you possess his. LOL!
a god has pettyness? an infallible god? are you sure about that?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#82327 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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I hold 4 Us patents on an engineered product using metallurgy and machine dynamics. To say that science isn't in my background is foolish. To say that evolution and God can't co-exist is also very foolish.
And I have never claimed that. But to insist that the myths of Genesis are true is far more foolish.

As I said, believing the myths of Genesis does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. You simply cannot use science to defend them since they are demonstrably false.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#82328 Mar 22, 2013
CBOW wrote:
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Great, blaming God for the disobedience of His children. Well, we should bring back punishment for the parents of these horrendous children these days, since we can't hold them responsible for their own actions. Get ready to serve time and pay your kids' debts. LOL!
If you are going to claim your God exists then yes. He is at fault if he is both omnipotent and omniscient. It is only logical. Parents are responsible for their children until they are grown. You do have to pay your kids debts up until that point and parents are neither omniscient nor omnipotent. With more power comes more responsibility. So yes, your god is responsible for the sins of HIS creation.

That is of course if he exists at all. If he punishes his own creation for faults that he allowed them to acquire then he is immoral. If he punishes them forever for these minor flaws he is infinitely immoral.

A lot of atheists are atheists because they do not believe in an immoral god and all of the man made gods are immoral.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#82329 Mar 22, 2013
Oops, except for the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

rAmen.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#82330 Mar 22, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Just get over that.
When talking about people, you are also directly or indirectly talking to your self, because you are also human( people or a person).
Yes, I was once as immature as you and bought into "herbalism" and "new age healing," I just grew out of my childish things, thus it never became delusion. You have not, thus your imaginary friend you call god is a delusion.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#82331 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, I was once as immature as you and bought into "herbalism" and "new age healing," I just grew out of my childish things, thus it never became delusion. You have not, thus your imaginary friend you call god is a delusion.
i too, turned to finding some type of spiritualism after realizing religion is a hoax.(@ age ten or so...) many people do. it usually doesn't last too long unless they find a way to make money from it...

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#82332 Mar 22, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i too, turned to finding some type of spiritualism after realizing religion is a hoax.(@ age ten or so...) many people do. it usually doesn't last too long unless they find a way to make money from it...
Then they become John Edwards.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#82333 Mar 22, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>There has NEVER been any well attested example, event, occurrence, happening, appearance, or case of magik on the earth...at any time.

There is no supernatural. the supernatural and magik are folk tales and myth.

Grow up.
Your simply Wrong.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#82334 Mar 22, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Then they become John Edwards.
i don't get the reference... is he a new age guru wannabe? the pres candidate John Edwards?

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#82335 Mar 22, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i don't get the reference... is he a new age guru wannabe? the pres candidate John Edwards?
Some medium that cons a lot of people out of money by preying on their weak moments due to close relations dying. He has been awarded the Biggest Douche of the Universe as well ... made up award but meh, anyone who knows about him agrees it's valid.

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