Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Found a pretty cool article on this subject -
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2010/0...
"In Ian Kershaw's biography of Hitler, Professor Kershaw (who has no axe to grind on this topic, so far as I know) repeatedly attributes a belief or world view which he terms 'Social Darwinism' to the National Socialist leader".
"I believe that this ban (mention of which, I now gather, is a stock-in-trade Darwinist response to the allegation that the Nazis were influenced and inspired by evolutionary theory) was not caused by any NSDAP objection to the theory of evolution, but may have more to do with Hitler's specific disagreement with Haeckel's supporters and disciples, the Monists, who were very far from being Nazis.
So far as I know, the Monist League, which was made up of Haeckel's disciples, was shut down in 1933 by the Nazis, so publications linked with it would have been banned at the same time. Richard Weikart, in his book exploring the links between Darwinism and National Socialist ideology ('From Darwin to Hitler' p.70) notes:’The Nazi suppression of the Monist League was not a function of a fundamental change in the Monist League's orientation during the Weimar period, as [Daniel] Gasman has argued, but rather reflected significant differences between Haeckel and Hitler. Haeckel and the Monist League promoted many social reforms that were anathema to Hitler, such as homosexual rights, feminism, and pacifism.’
So he was at odd's with Haeckel(the promoter of the false concept of fish to human evolution occuring during pregnancy)Not Darwin.
Prof Kershaw may have no axe to grind on this topic but Mr Hitchens seems to: "(mention of which, I now gather, is a stock-in-trade Darwinist response to the allegation that the Nazis were influenced and inspired by evolutionary theory)".

Stock in trade?

In any event, after mentioning "primitive Darwinism" Hitchens rambles on about Haeckel but never, as far as I can tell, explains why "primitive Darwinism" was not directed at Darwin.

The referenced document is here:
http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/burne...

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Mark wrote:
We live in a post-flood world that was destroyed as a result of a society that had lost all morals and God reset the earth into it's final stage.
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God is a good and just guy...
I find it impossible to reconcile those two statements.

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FAA fouled up the nav equip.
How so?(Former career)
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<quoted text>Cycling?
Ecclesiastes1: 5 through 10.

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Is cellular science theory? You agree the computer screen you stare at has a maker but the eyes you use to see it doesn't? So how is that not the same as biotechnology? Biosensors use biomaterial connected to electric opamps to monitor for stuff like WMD material, is that not intel operating with and on bio-matter? Where do you differentiate, because it's bio matter evo made it by accident! That functionality didn't come about by someone wishing it into existence and waiting 20 mill years for evo to make it! How absurd! Does natural science be interpeted only through evo? My "Fundie Sect" didn't lie to me on that!
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actually, it did. first, there is not one shred of aviednece of any creator, ever.

second, if you looked at the real world around you, or actually studied evolution as you lied about, you would see all froms of eyes, from simple light detection cells to them most complicated eyes around.(whicch are not on humans...why would your ffake god not give humans the besteyes he can make?)

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LOL... my children, employees and wife say the same so you will have to do better than that! God has me in the university of life every day and is just as frustrated, so no worries.
Seems most of the dialog on this site has to do with baiting and trapping then counter searching the web. I hear little about personal experiance, just personal bias. Prob with that tactic and me is I have actually done this stuff or worked with it, have faced off with some real big boy's and came out fine, so I just confidently type away.(Except I havn't been to the center of the Universe, obviously).
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In fact, i do very little searching of the web to back up my claims.

i do not baiting and trapping, i just look at your statements and can easily see they are out and out lies or pure falsehoods.

you have not come out fine here, you have been proved to be blatent liar. it think the porblem may be you are just not smart enough to realize it...
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How so?(Former career)
Sisters VOR was being worked on and they squewed it 90 Deg. Took FL 66 straight into the MTn. 111 fatalities, I was in the jet behind them.

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There's no such thing as crevolution
Did you watch the video?
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<quoted text>In fact, i do very little searching of the web to back up my claims.
i do not baiting and trapping, i just look at your statements and can easily see they are out and out lies or pure falsehoods.
you have not come out fine here, you have been proved to be blatent liar. it think the porblem may be you are just not smart enough to realize it...
We will all get our chance to see who is right. I have not heard one thing you folks present that would make me fall down and worship my wall clock. If you are all so enlightened, be honest and objective, read the Bible through in it's entirety.

I remember one prof that would break pencils reading the reasearch papers I brought to class and stomping out, only later to meet with me secretly, then later openly became an advocate. At least he was willing to face truth. All this talk about controverting the sciences, that's the issue, origins and operation science have been blended into a cult with many followers, works as long as they are taught a one sided story and have teh media on there side. You've heard the other side, why are you calling me names and being so angry, thats because you have been lied too by the evo's.

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Sisters VOR was being worked on and they squewed it 90 Deg. Took FL 66 straight into the MTn. 111 fatalities, I was in the jet behind them.
Flying Tiger 66?

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We will all get our chance to see who is right. I have not heard one thing you folks present that would make me fall down and worship my wall clock. If you are all so enlightened, be honest and objective, read the Bible through in it's entirety.
I remember one prof that would break pencils reading the reasearch papers I brought to class and stomping out, only later to meet with me secretly, then later openly became an advocate. At least he was willing to face truth. All this talk about controverting the sciences, that's the issue, origins and operation science have been blended into a cult with many followers, works as long as they are taught a one sided story and have teh media on there side. You've heard the other side, why are you calling me names and being so angry, thats because you have been lied too by the evo's.
good, no-one would expect anyone to worship a wall clock, thought it would make more sense than worshipping a known lie...

again, most non-believers know religions better than those that profess to be members of that cult.(i.e. i have read the bible quite extensively...)

i am not angry at all just pointing out your lies and falsehoods.

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why do people make something so simply, so difficult?

Creation.
look around.
common sense

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Walterwalter wrote:
why do people make something so simply, so difficult?
Creation.
look around.
common sense
Of course heavier objects fall faster. It is only common sense.

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Walterwalter wrote:
why do people make something so simply, so difficult?
Creation.
look around.
common sense
yes it is simple. looking around, nothing suggests the proven lie of a god or creator at all.

everyting points to the evidence we have for evolution.

very simple.

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Flying Tiger 66?
Ah! Alaska Airlines 1866.
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evolution is only real in THIS world..
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uh.. wow guys I really don't think this is..
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provable.. nothing is really provable..

why bother???
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oh yea I guess evolution is good to know about like if maybe you wanted to speed it up..

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Of course heavier objects fall faster. It is only common sense.
the sun goes around the Earth, it's only common sense!

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